Ok, there is so much here, it is going to take a while but I'm going to try:
WTF Lithy and but mah taxes!
Dude taxes across the board are so low. That's about the only unsustainable topic in this thread. People were complaining through all of Obama time in office about taxes but they were lower than even at the end of the dear great leader Reagans administration.
Make American great again, when was that? The 50's/60's and what was the tax rate back then? 50% or some crazy crap.
Ok, I never once mentioned the tax rate, or MAGA. Please continue...
Blah blah that cars won't be automated in my lifetime. Dude are you paying attention? A decade ago Google was using self driving car to go around and get its data for maps services. An ex employee snitched them out and now somebody has to sit in the car while it drives around. Uber and Lyft have tried to drop off automated cars in major municipalities until they got outlawed very shortly afterwards. That was somewhere in the last five years. Some major conglomerate was having driverless semi's deliver freight in Europe, that got shutdown after a few days. These Tesla's pretty much drive themselves, some models more than others.
So you think cars will be fully autonomous (known as Level 5, which was my point, not Level 2-3 which is where we stand now). Ok, great! Let's review your evidence. First, your Google story is completely made up unless somehow the internet just never heard about it. Next, in case you weren't aware, I live in Pittsburgh, one of the major testing cities for Uber's autonomous program development. They were not outlawed here, though they did voluntarily and temporarily suspend testing after the fatal Tempe accident. Tesla's system is advanced cruise control and it would be much better if the public treated it as such. They cannot 'drive themselves'. So in short, the industry has been stuck around Level 3 for a while now and there are major challenges in both programming and infrastructure before Level 5 will be possible, and that ignores completely the resistance that many people will have to a changeover to full autonomy. As shown by the 3ish fatal accidents, tolerance for 'mistakes' will be much lower when people don't have control. Without looking it up, I think around 30,000 people die each year on our roads, but that's just the cost of doing business. Despite being much, much safer, you had people refusing to get on a 737 MAX in the last month because of a perceived safety issue, even if they put themselves at much greater risk simply driving to the airport. It is all about a human and their feeling of control. If a self-driving car makes a mistake, people may swear them off. This doesn't even talk about how liability will be handled...
Yeah since the beginning of the industrial revolution people have been fearful of automation. Hasn't happened yet. It can right now though. Almost every job can be outsourced or automated at this point in time. A recent study by Ball State shows roughly 80% of job loss is due to automation. The company owners are just too cheap and lazy to do it right now. Anybody seen these giant self service tablets at McDonald's these days?
What a load of shit. Ok, it can happen now, almost every job outsourced (not what we are talking about) or automated (ok). Cheap and lazy? lol If it saves them money they would be all over it. Self-service McDonald's kiosks are the best example you can come up with? In the past, every job that people thought would be obsolete has been replaced by several other jobs in its place. Glass blower in the late 1800s? Well glass molds did put them out of work, but now you needed techs to work on the glass machine. Stifling economic growth to 'save jobs' is always a bad idea and a long term failure.
Yeah lets talk about societal norms about scarcity and the pride of work.
There is no scarcity problem, there's a distribution problem. For some reason we are raised in our capitalist society that the reason why we don't have something or others are without is because of scarcity and supply and demand and it's simply not the case.
Most jobs are bullshit jobs where you spend more time pretending to be doing something than actually producing, preformed by un or under qualified people who got those jobs because of friend or family networks. All done in the goal to make rich people even richer. Almost no wealth is given these days to the people who actually provide value to society. IIRC after the market crash in '09 stats showed almost 70% of new wealth in over the last decade came from the financial sectors. Things like derivatives and speculating.
Again..what? So you're saying that the people who have jobs got them because of family or friends, but the only point of any job is to make the rich even richer. Ok sure, capital will always benefit disproportionately compared to labor. Otherwise there is no point to hiring people. The reason you get paid anything at work is because you create more value than you cost.
Then you say that people are un or under qualified and don't do any real work, yet no wealth is given "to the people who actually provide value to society". What does that even mean? Then you throw out derivatives and speculating, ok. Personally, I would say the government is more at fault for the income gap, but who cares anyway.
I can't believe them trying to shame AOC with that video with her dancing, guess they think everybody in the parties gay if they thought it would do more damage than good. Its almost jerkoff material for me.
Pass.
Pretty sure most people in the gulf states have nothing to worry about, almost all work is beneath them and they have to import workers to do almost everything. On occasion they do export some terrorists though. For the most part though everybody being filthy rich hasn't caused a higher correlation of crime say compared to here where most people are dirt poor.
Hell Alaska has an oil fund and not only do citizens not pay any kind of state tax, (income,property or sales) they in fact get money back say around $2k a year. They've been trying to raid it recently though.
I'm actually having trouble deciding if when you say 'Gulf States', you mean Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Oman, etc. or maybe you mean Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi. Could be both I guess.
Anybody else notice clocks and water fountains disappearing? Want to know what time it is? You should have a cellphone. Also millennial's can't read analog watches. Need water? Buy some at the convenience store or the vending machine. It's only $2.50 at the most.
This was by far my favorite part of any of these posts. What kind of old man shit is this? Where are the clocks! What about water fountains!
No look at people around the world, most are laid back. Most people don't have 30 year mortgages and 8 year car loans. They arn't expected to pay for 20 kinds of insurance and don't get taxed on everything to include breathing.
Think about it dude almost everything we do in our society we are expected to spend money and buy something. Politicians and people like Lithy want to shut down anything that doesn't fall into that category.
It gives everybody a bad attitude and the philosophy that even their time is more scarce that it is.
Debt is slavery.
Hi, my name is lithy. Maybe you don't know much about me. I have no debt. I have a whole thread on this forum about living like a cheap-ass (although it has bee a couple years since I posted to it).
I honestly don't know what your point is for this portion. Debt can be valuable but I wouldn't encourage it for most people.
Also wtf.. see how this guy/people think?
What does Wall-e need to buy anyways?
Who can he give money to if he wanted to?
I'm sorry IIRC I think I only saw the first part of the movie, it's an animation about a robot who gathers up trash and organizes it and repairs or reuses it?
Ok I googled it:
WALL-E, short for Waste Allocation Load Lifter Earth-class, is the last robot left on Earth. He spends his days tidying up the planet, one piece of garbage at a time. But during 700 years, WALL-E has developed a personality, and he's more than a little lonely. Then he spots EVE (Elissa Knight), a sleek and shapely probe sent back to Earth on a scanning mission. Smitten WALL-E embarks on his greatest adventure yet when he follows EVE across the galaxy.
Yup nothing to buy or anybody left to give it to. I don't understand the example.
So since nobody is paying Wall-e for the service he provides its useless right?
Whoosh. You should watch WALL-E, it is a great movie. Lots of emotion from minimal dialogue, although the first half of the movie is definitely better than the second half.