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You're not paying the seller that way, you're paying ebay. Then ebay pays the seller. They have enabled direct credit card charges since Paypal is a separate company now.
Selling high value items on Ebay
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You're not paying the seller that way, you're paying ebay. Then ebay pays the seller. They have enabled direct credit card charges since Paypal is a separate company now.
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As a seller I've never been fucked on high end items, it's always the bottom of the barrel shit that you know someone is going to flip or flea market people. Item not as described or my kid bought it etc. Sure your 12 year kid bought an auto starter for a 2004 Subaru...
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This is terrible advice.
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If its high value, it's gift or nothing these days. Not taking chances.
Just sold an item for $650. It was gift and trust or no sale. I mean I give people my name, address, and phone number. Plus I am not hard to find (have an IG, youtube channel, on basically every forum)
If trust can't be had between both parties, I don't take the risk and sell it. Only surefire way to know you won't get screwed in the end on some fraud claim with Paypal.
Just sold an item for $650. It was gift and trust or no sale. I mean I give people my name, address, and phone number. Plus I am not hard to find (have an IG, youtube channel, on basically every forum)
If trust can't be had between both parties, I don't take the risk and sell it. Only surefire way to know you won't get screwed in the end on some fraud claim with Paypal.
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I agree
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That's the thing, even with board photos you are just as open to being hit with a "not as described" chargeback and being sent back a worthless decoy.
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Personally I find this less of a problem. If you put up clear photos and an accurate or even downplayed description, the vast majority of buyers are happy. If they have any complaints (even stupid ones) accept them graciously, return item and refund immediately.
The problem is most "no paypal" listings will be removed pretty quickly as it breaches their rules. Technically you're even required to accept paypal for collection in person which is obviously a terrible idea for the seller.
I suspect for items priced in four figures the risk of being scammed seriously increases. Couple that with the already shady market for conversions in Europe and it's the perfect storm of fraud.
That sounds like an idea but there would have to be some pretty sound levels of trust as the buyer is accepting all the risk.
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I've managed to liquidate almost my entire videogame collection over the last few years with very few problems but now I'm left with a dozen or so AES titles that I'm concerned about selling on that hive or scum and villany known as Ebay. The end is in site for me though and I'll be glad to be out of this self destructive game for good.
Thanks for all the advice so far. It does appear that Ebay is just as bad as I suspected.
That leaves me with:
-Sell on here to stand up folks only possibly even implementing the paypal gift or no deal scenario if necessary.
-Advertise locally and do cash on collection although that will create another set of problems. Hired goons are expensive.
-Sell on consignment to the Neo Store.
-Send to an intermediary third party for a fee and use their reputation for trust.
Thanks for all the advice so far. It does appear that Ebay is just as bad as I suspected.
That leaves me with:
-Sell on here to stand up folks only possibly even implementing the paypal gift or no deal scenario if necessary.
-Advertise locally and do cash on collection although that will create another set of problems. Hired goons are expensive.
-Sell on consignment to the Neo Store.
-Send to an intermediary third party for a fee and use their reputation for trust.
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I've been doing that for years and it's getting old. Laptopgate on Ebay made me realise that buyer protection is a myth.
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Sell or don't sell. Why is this such a difficult life decision for you?
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That's what I did. I'll sell paypal regular to a well known member but if some noob comes along and wants to buy one of your games, tell him paypal gift or nothing. If he gives you some bullshit about buyer protection, tell him to fuck off.
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Sellers who want to sell expensive items (or anything really) PayPal gift only can fuck right off.
Razo is cool so this isn't directed at him, but I've seen established members of many communities suddenly disappear with PayPal money. Anyone who sends more than a few bucks to anyone that isn't legitimately a good friend is a moron.
Razo is cool so this isn't directed at him, but I've seen established members of many communities suddenly disappear with PayPal money. Anyone who sends more than a few bucks to anyone that isn't legitimately a good friend is a moron.
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the buyer doesnt get that information....
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My 2 year old bought and paid for two items when she was playing with my phone. One was a record that I was "watching". I ended up letting it pass since I know the seller. The other was a framed picture of a Ferris wheel. I canceled that shit.
Please do tell.
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Buyer on that definitely assumed some risk, but I gave him my name / address / tel number / all the forums I frequent / my IG / and my youtube. So he could flame the hell out of me if I pulled a fast one, not to mention call the police and file a theft claim.
I was selling something I have no idea as to whether or not it works, and he knew that. It's a prototype gpu that I can't test. So I don't want a "doesnt work as described" claim coming back since it's literally a one off component and the buyer knows he might be receiving a really expensive paperweight.
I am just tired of getting screwed on "not as described" discount requests. Almost 25% of whatever I've sold on ebay gets a "condition not as described, can I get money back" message sent. I grade too harshly and take photos of any blemish yet I still constantly get these issues. So I don't sell anything over $100 on ebay. Fine you want a 10% discount on a $15 game...I don't care, you win. But I am not getting hit with a 10-20% request on multiple hundreds of dollars.
On here if I know someone and their history, paypal with fees and protection is cool. But generally its gift or no sale, especially on items like I just sold
Plus religion user name = not shipping on eBay. 9/10 times I get scam attempts from these users. It's like they hide behind the shield of religion to proclaim their innocence while they try to absolutely screw me
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There are plenty of people willing to meet up and hand over cash so they can make a slim margin. They are willing to take the risk.
I personally hate selling crap online and paying commissions and taking all the risk and leaving a paper trail as to my finances. So I sell most everything person to person.
I personally hate selling crap online and paying commissions and taking all the risk and leaving a paper trail as to my finances. So I sell most everything person to person.
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Yea, you're also taking the risk with meeting up with some wacko or the guy who says he's interested and swinging by to pick it up and never shows up and doesn't even send you a message to apologize for not showing or something like I got held up and couldn't make it.
My Kid collects these LOL toys and she has a shitload of them. Once she scratches off all the toys from the season list, she sometimes has spare new one's left over. My wife posts them on facebook and people flock to these things, It's unbelievable. I've made a few deliveries already locally but if you seen some of these people that I met, you wonder if it's even worth it lol. Don't even get me started with Craigslist.
I could picture some wacko gamer holding Moonwhistle up at GunPoint for his $2k Aes Game.
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you meet at a bank
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Lol
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Or police station. I never go to people's houses to sell stuff on Craigslist. Too many nutjobs and meth-heads and it's not worth the risk.
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Sounds IRS funded.