Undoing the post ww2 world order
Conditioning pur populace to autocracy
Enabling white nationalism
Destroying free press
Turning usa into authoritarian kleptocracy like china and russia
Etc
Wait...I thought this topic was about Russia, and not about what Trump is trying to do?
It is known (by at least their own words) that the KGB has been waging an information war in the US since at least the 1960s. It is doubtful that this process has ceased, however I do not think that the points that Poppy brings up are correct. Those actions would not be something a foreign country would want to occur in an adversary. The reason being is that those things bring consolidation of power and greater military strength. Something that makes no sense for Russia to want. Complacency amongst the people would be a primary goal for any operation they would have.
In any case, to place blame on a group or country for your problems is to say that you have no control over your own actions. That you have no thoughts of your own and you only do what you are told, by either public figures, advertisements or whatever else. This way of thinking does no one any good. I have faith that a person has more control over their own actions than the popular narrative that others are to blame for people doing certain things. There is definitely a big problem with people not taking responsibility for their actions or in-actions, and many people take the easy way out by blaming someone else for that. The whole idea that Russia is responsible for this or that is to admit that the American people have no will of their own and are sheep.
We have people who think vaccines are dangerous, that fluoride causes IQ problems, that the moon landing was faked.
Honestly one of the most embarrassing things of Americans. Don't see these retarded conspiracy theories elsewhere unless they're farmers in a village.
It's a bit like post WWI Germany, where we had to choose between bankruptcy or war. Russia took it one step up, for them it's bankruptcy or the creation of chaos, and war is just a part of this creation. Other parts are bread and circuses, read: vodka & large sport events, further: intel & mob, nationalism & religion and, of course, the caste system of oligarchs along with their Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda, which works like a perpetuum mobile. It seems, the design, their game so to speak, isn't anymore power for power's sake, but chaos as a lifestyle, instability as a foundation, becoming a guy who kills for sports. Strange people, I'll never understand them. But maybe it's just me, who lives out illusions.
Don't forget the sudden increase in flat-Earthers. They alarm me more than the vaccine, fluoride, moon landing/Kubrick-is-sending-me-coded-messages people.We have people who think vaccines are dangerous, that fluoride causes IQ problems, that the moon landing was faked.
Sylvie said:do you guys really think that anything you see or read regarding Russia and America is real? Or any country's "affairs" for that matter?
But if a group in Russia wants to deliberately misinform and direct the focus of Americans, they can. We have people who think vaccines are dangerous, that fluoride causes IQ problems, that the moon landing was faked. If you think those people share the blame, then okay. If you think they are solely to blame, then I disagree.
Sharing the blame is better. It is not as if the actions do not exist. I do not think it is all to one side. There are many different groups doing things like this for many different reasons. Some are from Russia, some pretend to be from Russia but most are not.
For the record... Didn't the Russians invent the "Protocol of the Elders of Zion" document?