Page 5 of 5 FirstFirst 12345
Results 101 to 108 of 108

Thread: Different Religion

  1. #101
    This is the hand that launched a thousand batches. 90s's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Toronto

    Posts
    1,087
    Quote Originally Posted by HDRchampion View Post
    I've been around JW for a long time, its nothing that bad...They are just god fearing trying to be good at all times. I have never witness any misogyny if anything the women are more vocal then the men from what i have encountered.

    Its a lot worse then i thought. The wife & i tried talking to her the other day & she basically broke down crying feeling we are against her. This is the first time she has shown any type of emotion or even talking back. I guess all is loss but hopefully i at least planted a seed in her head. So when she has doubts she will remember our conversation. I dont think ill push it any further for now and just build our relationship from there. Like i said majority JW are good people that i have met. Even the wife's family members are outstanding citizen.
    Good luck man. I will just mention a couple of last things. Someone in the thread suggested the Crisis of Conscience book. I have not read it myself, but I have heard it is a very useful book. In general, there is a growing amount of books on JWs as well as information online.

    There are many resources on the online you can find from a google search. I like this particular site:

    https://www.jehovahs-witness.com

    Likewise, there are a lot of resources on youtube, from people themselves, and even documentaries. I like this one that aired in Canada not long ago:



    These sources might offer some different opinions on JWs than you are used to, they might also help with your particular situation. The more information you have on the matter the better I think so you can make the best decisions.

    Again, good luck.

  2. #102
    J. M Club

    NGT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Northern Bay Area

    Posts
    4,595
    Quote Originally Posted by F4U57 View Post
    I guess what I meant to say is, Religion is not necessary to be inherently decent and have good morals, though I agree that a lot of religions profess this. If you believing in a higher power makes you feel better, happier, safe... then power to you. But when it does instill fear, creates rules, bounds and suppresses, then it is a problem.

    People shouldn’t need Religion to feel secure and happy, or to have purpose in life.
    I agree, although I'm ok with the "creating rules" part. I do think it often gives people a regular (daily or most of the time weekly) reminder to be a good person though. As much as we're all caught up in our own jobs, families, relationships, financial situations, hobbies, etc etc, religion often helps people stay focused on being a good person and helping others. Maybe through fear or maybe through prayer and scripture or just a mission that a group of people share.

    Can that happen without religion? Of course. Does it? Yes, it does. If i didn't go to church, would i personally be getting a group of people together to go do yard work for elderly disabled people or taking my son out to the store to put lunch bags together and hand them out to homeless people in our neighborhood? Probably not. Should i have been doing that, even without religion? I think i should have done that stuff before, but it just didn't come to mind. Maybe that says something about me as a person. Maybe religion gave me a reason to get off of my lazy butt and get out there. Maybe i was just selfish, but i don't know a lot of people that don't go to church that just get up and go decide to do stuff like that. Are there People that do that stuff that don't go to church? Of course there are, but before going to a place where doing that type of thing was discussed regularly, it wasn't a part of my daily thought process. Did i help people before? Yeah, but id say i go further out of my way to help people that i don't know now than before.

    I guess what I'm trying to say is, you're right. People shouldn't need religion to be good people and do good things for others. But, we live in a pretty selfish world and sometimes people need a reason or reminder to even think about that stuff. Should they? No, but realistically, do many? Sadly, imo, yes. Many people need a reason, a reminder, a gentle nudge to get their minds off of themselves. I did and i thank God daily because honestly, I'm happier than I've been in a long time.
    Last edited by NGT; 07-16-2018 at 09:09 AM.
    .

  3. #103
    One more year...
    Please God... just
    One more year...
    F4U57's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    NSW

    Posts
    6,058
    I can respect that. Glad to hear it's working for you.

  4. #104
    NeoSneth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2000
    Location
    St Louis , MO

    Posts
    8,784
    Quote Originally Posted by HDRchampion View Post
    I've been around JW for a long time, its nothing that bad...They are just god fearing trying to be good at all times. I have never witness any misogyny if anything the women are more vocal then the men from what i have encountered.

    Its a lot worse then i thought. The wife & i tried talking to her the other day & she basically broke down crying feeling we are against her. This is the first time she has shown any type of emotion or even talking back. I guess all is loss but hopefully i at least planted a seed in her head. So when she has doubts she will remember our conversation. I dont think ill push it any further for now and just build our relationship from there. Like i said majority JW are good people that i have met. Even the wife's family members are outstanding citizen.
    That's unfortunate, but it's good that you approached her together as parents.

    There is absolutely misogyny there, whether you see it or not. The best thing you can do now is be prepared, because the educators at JW are absolutely ready to combat you. "Honor your father and mother " Both Jews and Christians focus on this, so you can fall on that if she doesn't want to listen.


    Steam: SnethSS
    XBL:Sneth
    PSN:Sneth
    3DSxl: 1907-7977-5467
    Switch

  5. #105
    . norton9478's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Sombra Corporation

    Posts
    30,245
    Yeah, the JW's are good people. They just turned my daughter against me.
    There was no immunity to cuckoo ideas on Earth.
    Here was the reason human beings could not reject ideas because they were bad: "Ideas on Earth were badges of friendship or enmity.
    Their content didn't matter. Friends agreed with friends, in order to express friendliness. Enemies disagreed with enemies, in order to express enmity.

  6. #106
    Yamazaki's Pupil

    SteveNK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    UK

    Posts
    4,638
    Quote Originally Posted by norton9478 View Post
    Yeah, the JW's are good people. They just turned my daughter against me.
    Haha, people are fucking mad.

  7. #107
    Kula's Candy

    Join Date
    Jan 2018
    Location
    warlock/brightwarrior class heavy destroyer upgrade, E.A.S. Styx.

    Posts
    305

    icon18.gif


    love how MISOGYNY was wedged into this, without the other side of that coin, MISANDRY!
    faust says it best here.
    and as for op:
    the girl is young, there's still time, the seed is trenched as you said.
    the issue i have with this whole concept, is it's never a choice, ALWAYS foisted.
    some clearly break out of the programming, usually violently.
    not a bad thing when the rudely awoken can see their point is made.
    if the lady still communicates after the fact, it's more than a start...

  8. #108
    Haomaru's Blade Shiner
    Gentle Ben's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Portland, OR USA

    Posts
    835
    Quote Originally Posted by JesusJuice1200 View Post

    love how MISOGYNY was wedged into this, without the other side of that coin, MISANDRY!
    Shut the fuck up, chode.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •