Best Nu Metal Band
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Not a great thread.
Korn obviously
For their first 2 albums which where ridiculously good.
Deftones was nu metal for 2 minutes and those where a glorious couple of minutes
Best nu metal includes Cold for their excellent first album, Slipknot (they have always been on the fringe of what can be termed nu metal), Mudvayne for their first few incredible albums.
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As it stands other than Korn the rest of those bands mentioned are pretty horrible
Korn obviously
For their first 2 albums which where ridiculously good.
Deftones was nu metal for 2 minutes and those where a glorious couple of minutes
Best nu metal includes Cold for their excellent first album, Slipknot (they have always been on the fringe of what can be termed nu metal), Mudvayne for their first few incredible albums.
There may be more
As it stands other than Korn the rest of those bands mentioned are pretty horrible
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I've always liked Slipknot for their over the top antics and theatrics. Musically they have always been fun. I actually listened the hell out of the Paul Gray Chapter.
Though I was also listening to 4 Type O Negative albums back to back too. The preference ratio is about 4 to 1
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So fammicommander to make my final point..
You're here tearing down pseudo metal flavor A, but you're totally into pseudo metal flavor B!
Which is fine...but naturally I'm going to be curious about your rationale/perspective.
You're here tearing down pseudo metal flavor A, but you're totally into pseudo metal flavor B!
Which is fine...but naturally I'm going to be curious about your rationale/perspective.
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1. What, precisely, defines "pseudo metal"? Where do you draw the line between a subgenre of metal and "pseudo metal"? Does being less "metal" than another genre of hard rock inherently make a band or a song bad?
2. Explain to me how Nightwish or Delain is anything like Slipknot or Papa Roach, musically.
This features guitar solos, orchestral instruments, a classically trained vocalist on top of a growling back up vocalist, a heavy breakdown. Not a lot in common with nu metal.
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Nu-metal has a ton of breakdowns, what are you talking about?
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Nu metal is almost all riffs and breakdowns, not one big focused heavy one.
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Uhhh?
Most nu-metal has drums, bass, vocals, and no guitar on verse, and like one riff during the chorus.
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Delain and Nightwish are decent. A little to soft for me if I'm listening to that particular metal, whatever it's called. I would recommend listening to some Symphony X if you want something a little harder. https://youtu.be/9s08x-kIxFs
Back on Slipknot
Have you ever really heard Corey Taylor's Vocals? The dude doesn't just scream into a Mic bro, He has skills. He could easily blow away most vocalists out there. And what the hell is wrong with Papa Roach? Are most of you guys against anything mainstream? I think there music is fun to listen to.
https://youtu.be/kfFYoZOe3lI
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I dig what I've heard of Symphony X so far, thanks for the recommendation.
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I understand that you want to use hard "facts" to support your posts...but your wikipedia copy/pastes are
just further exposing your already shaky knowledge base as shakier.
Nu-metal riffing doesn't sound like death metal riffing. Sorry.
just further exposing your already shaky knowledge base as shakier.
Nu-metal riffing doesn't sound like death metal riffing. Sorry.
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All of your arguments boil down to "declarative statement, sorry"
And for the record, I don't claim to be the ultimate judge of heavy metal. All I said was that the bands in the OP sucked. You, on the other hand, didn't even seem to be aware of the existence of the symphonic metal genre that you're equating to nu metal.
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If you like that, check this one out. https://youtu.be/mPVC2UJRAbc
This is my favorite track on the Iconoclast album Listen to the whole thing, don't give up on it. It's starts out soft but builds slowly.
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This is good. Gonna dig deeper into this band for sure.
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It's very clear that you don't claim to be "the ultimate judge". I don't think you'd be bold enough to claim that your
scope is large at all.
As far as my awareness...well...I'm aware that many of the "symphonic metal" bands you're fond of have more in common with Nu metal than you realize. These bands are clearly bearing the torch that Nu Metal once carried. It's palatable, poppy, commercial sounding crooning, but with some "real" metal elements spliced in in order to help distance itself from a genre widely regarded as bad.
I think your vehement anti nu metal stance seems a bit...hypocritical.
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You again just make broad claims with rhetoric and no substance. Musically, the two genres are very dissimilar as far as comparing metal subgenres. Sorry.
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Jesus Fami, you desperately need to get laid. Or smoke weed. Something to take the edge off.
Anyway, the first two Korn albums were raw as shit. Then they made money, weren't as hungry, became drug addicts and the music became repetitive and less interesting. I'd likely vote for them.
I don't have an irrational hate boner for the rest of it like most folks seem to but it was largely derivative and try-hard. I saw Limp Bizkit back in like '96 when they opened for Faith No More on their farewell tour. The George Michael Faith cover was amusing. The rest of it... less so.
I still listen to Deftones but they were only nu-metal for about 15 minutes in the mid-90s. They went off and did their own thing.
Slipknot are like a boy band for goth/emo kids.
Anyway, the first two Korn albums were raw as shit. Then they made money, weren't as hungry, became drug addicts and the music became repetitive and less interesting. I'd likely vote for them.
I don't have an irrational hate boner for the rest of it like most folks seem to but it was largely derivative and try-hard. I saw Limp Bizkit back in like '96 when they opened for Faith No More on their farewell tour. The George Michael Faith cover was amusing. The rest of it... less so.
I still listen to Deftones but they were only nu-metal for about 15 minutes in the mid-90s. They went off and did their own thing.
Slipknot are like a boy band for goth/emo kids.
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Everything in this post checks out up until here:
You've clearly never listened to goth rock or emo if you think either genre has anything to do with each other or slipknot.
You've clearly never listened to goth rock or emo if you think either genre has anything to do with each other or slipknot.
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Yeah, I’ve always enjoyed Korn. I think as others have said in this thread when something becomes mainstream it is easy to overlook or dismiss it.
Something I heard before when watching a YT video of Mayer Hawthorne finding the Trouble Man soundtrack by Marvin Gaye, “There’s a reason why common records are so common. It’s because they’re the shit.”
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Post grunge which was contemporary to nu metal and even promoted by some in the scene (Durst) was far worst. So much shit music back then lol. And then also some great mainstream stuff too.
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The best thing Fred Durst ever gave us was the name of a solid waste treatment center
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Duh, Nickelback of course.