China scrapping term limits, thoughts?

Heinz

Parteizeit
15 Year Member
So this isn't really a surprise but I thought I'd bring it up, maybe Lonesage can give us some insight from being on the ground there.

I myself am looking forward to having a chinese dictator for a leader because we all know Australia will be the first to fall and Trump ain't coming to our rescue now that it's 'merica First and all.
 

StevenK

ng.com SFII tournament winner 2002-2023
10 Year Member
I assume I probably think the same as you - classic dictator move, but what is anyone going to do about it?

When you don't even hold sham elections nobody anywhere can do anything about it so you just have to hope he's a decent guy, don't you?
 

K_K

Honourary Irishman.,
20 Year Member
So China has a dictator of sorts. Well when they chased out the emperor I'd figured they were done with that life. Guessing theyre still about that life.

Barring a full on revolution, likely a long, bloody, and completely destabilizing civil war almost: they're stuck no? Or is there some sort of get out clause?

Chang Kai Shek never set foot in China again after he was booted out. Wonder how long they'll put up with this new dynasty? And who will arm the people?
 

LoneSage

A Broken Man
20 Year Member
maybe Lonesage can give us some insight from being on the ground there.

"The common people pray for rain, health and a summer that never ends. They don't care what games the high Lords play."

As long as Chinese people bought a home (apartment), a car and have enough money they seriously don't care about anything else. They don't give a shit about anything that isn't their family or money, I really can't stress that enough. They don't care about politics. The economy is great here, lots of people going from nothing to BMWs in a few short years. As long as they've got money they don't give a fuck that Xi's in charge indefinitely.

That said, I saw this coming a mile away, and even joked about it last year with some Chinese people who said that would never happen (I would have rather been wrong). China has multiple factions within the Communist party. Hu Jintao and Xi Jinping are from one faction and Jiang Zemin (the president before both of them) was from the other faction. Over the past 3 or 4 years nearly everyone from Jiang's faction in even the slightest position of power has been either dismissed from the party or jailed for "corruption" or murder in the case of Bo Xilai. I put corruption in quotes because 100% of Chinese politicians are corrupt. It is required, to advance you have to bribe your way up so the only way is to take larger bribes from people below you, it is a trickle up bribery system in China. So the only people actually being arrested are those who are against Xi or low level people that they want to make an example of. To understand how corrupt the system is just look at Wen Jiabao, the premier under Hu Jintao. His entire family were peasant farmers when he was born, nearly every one in his family is a multi millionaire now. These farmers didn't suddenly all become business savvy, they got massive kick backs from people trying to get close to government leaders.

I'm ranting now but after putting away everyone in his purge, there is no one to oppose Xi, this is how he got approval to become president-for-life. He IS the senate, no one has grabbed and consolidated power like this since Mao himself.

Anyways, Xi is overwhelmingly popular. People are stupid enough to believe his anti-corruption campaign was legit and in the interest of the common people and not himself. I mean, hell, Chinese people love Mao and refer to him as Grandpa Mao commonly now. If Xi is the new Mao then I reckon most do not care that he's practically a dictator now.

tl;dr Chinese people seriously do not give a fuck, and it's something they know they can't do shit about but life for the common Chinese is the best it's ever been so why change it?
 
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radiantsvgun

They call him Mr. Windy
15 Year Member
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I'm ranting now but after putting away everyone in his purge, there is no one to oppose Xi, this is how he got approval to become president-for-life. He IS the senate, no one has grabbed and consolidated power like this since Mao himself.

Anyways, Xi is overwhelmingly popular. People are stupid enough to believe his anti-corruption campaign was legit and in the interest of the common people and not himself. I mean, hell, Chinese people love Mao and refer to him as Grandpa Mao commonly now.

Hold up, my history is pretty rusty, but didn’t he kill a ton of people? I know he opened up China and made things better for women, but I could have sworn he killed a bunch of people.
 

evil wasabi

The Jongmaster
20 Year Member
So China has a dictator of sorts. Well when they chased out the emperor I'd figured they were done with that life. Guessing theyre still about that life.

Barring a full on revolution, likely a long, bloody, and completely destabilizing civil war almost: they're stuck no? Or is there some sort of get out clause?

Chang Kai Shek never set foot in China again after he was booted out. Wonder how long they'll put up with this new dynasty? And who will arm the people?

Communism in practice has always been anti-socialist kleptocracy. No one should ever complain about socialism, but rather the corruption that tries to tag along with it, where the weakened rights of people allow for the government to pilfer the coffers and rewrite the laws to establish a monopolistic plutocracy.
 

Tripredacus

Three 6 Mafia
10 Year Member
So China has a dictator of sorts. Well when they chased out the emperor I'd figured they were done with that life. Guessing theyre still about that life.

Usually how this works is "not their way, but my way"
 

heihachi

Krauser's Henchman
Hold up, my history is pretty rusty, but didn’t he kill a ton of people? I know he opened up China and made things better for women, but I could have sworn he killed a bunch of people.

Yup, millions through failed agricultural policies and a personality cult that literally had brainwashed teenagers roving around in gangs killing people for anything that could be interpreted as capitalist or anti-Mao. I'm interested in seeing whether foreign investment in China starts to slow down a bit now that the pendulum has swung back to authoritarianism in China.
 

LoneSage

A Broken Man
20 Year Member
Yup, millions through failed agricultural policies and a personality cult that literally had brainwashed teenagers roving around in gangs killing people for anything that could be interpreted as capitalist or anti-Mao. I'm interested in seeing whether foreign investment in China starts to slow down a bit now that the pendulum has swung back to authoritarianism in China.

The aim is to rely more on producing for the domestic market as opposed to the world. With factory workers' salaries rising to a wage that can provide for a family, it's a matter of time until factories move to cheaper pastures.
 

evil wasabi

The Jongmaster
20 Year Member
The aim is to rely more on producing for the domestic market as opposed to the world. With factory workers' salaries rising to a wage that can provide for a family, it's a matter of time until factories move to cheaper pastures.

China is the Texas of Asia.
 
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