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    Are people allowed secrets?

    This thread has been inspired by the 'outing' of that white supremacist middle school teacher lady. You may believe that this is just and i may not disagree with you, but this is not much different in practice as outing gays or other social degenerates from a time since passed. Borders on a tabloid style ruining of lives for the lulz.

    So if yes, do you have a line? Like, can they enjoy the smell of their own farts and work as a elevator technician?
    What if they like beastiality porn in the privacy of their own home and work at the animal shelter?

    If no, is the pursuit of truthfulness and exposure in all vices/kinks/misdeeds/etc. just in any case for any reason?
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    Considering most misconstrue anything that comes out of people's mouths, yes.

    For example a teacher might think a school girl is hot. That could easily turn into he's a child pornographer (never mind the girl might well be into high school).

    Or another person at a party stuck a gerbil up their ass on a stupid dare. Well anybody hears about that is going to escalate that pretty quickly. They are totally into beastiality.

    Someone who has had nothing but trouble dealing with another race might prefer to never be around them. Well... that person MUST be a supremasist.

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    Is a gay guy going around saying all gays are superior and the straights should be executed, or at least kept separate?

    No.

    Well, maybe on Tumblr, but fuck that fag, he's also a retard.

    Just like this schoolteacher.

    Ultimately, it wasn't being secret with her views. Oh, sure she used a pseudonym, but she also talked on a public platform about being a teacher, and went on about how she could use her position to politicize students.

    She's a cunt, and I'm glad she was exposed, just like I'm glad when some Republican gets ousted as a wannabe cocksucker in a public bathroom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lithy View Post
    this is not much different in practice as outing gays or other social degenerates
    You should totally post this on social media. Don't forget the popcorn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssjlance View Post

    Ultimately, it wasn't being secret with her views. Oh, sure she used a pseudonym, but she also talked on a public platform about being a teacher, and went on about how she could use her position to politicize students.
    Pretty much. If she just held white supremacist beliefs and hung out on white supremacist forums/subreddits/whatever, maybe even went to meetings, then OK, that's her private life. She made it public when she decided to become a public figure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CORY View Post
    You should totally post this on social media. Don't forget the popcorn.
    Should probably change gays to faggots and social degenerates to snowflakes though if I put it up on the facebox.

    And seriously, I don't really want to talk about Ku Klux Kathy, this is much more hypothetical than that.
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    I think we're delving closer and closer to thought policing than we have ever come but most of these 'outed' people bring it upon themselves in some way. How did anyone know a teacher held white supremacist views? probably not a good thing to have known about you being a teacher... you disseminate more than knowledge as a teacher I think and that's how it's viewed.



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    People arenít allowed secrets. Everyone wants to know otherís secrets because we want to ostracise them and make them feel pathetic about being a furry that sleeps in a gimp box in their matriarchís basement.

    If people were allowed secrets they wouldnít be secrets. If youíre dumb enough to tell people your secrets or donít keep it hidden well enough then tough shit when you get dragged across the coals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F4U57 View Post
    People aren’t allowed secrets. Everyone wants to know other’s secrets because we want to ostracise them and make them feel pathetic about being a furry that sleeps in a gimp box in their matriarch’s basement.

    If people were allowed secrets they wouldn’t be secrets. If you’re dumb enough to tell people your secrets or don’t keep it hidden well enough then tough shit when you get dragged across the coals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lithy View Post
    This thread has been inspired by the 'outing' of that white supremacist middle school teacher lady. You may believe that this is just and i may not disagree with you, but this is not much different in practice as outing gays or other social degenerates from a time since passed. Borders on a tabloid style ruining of lives for the lulz.

    So if yes, do you have a line? Like, can they enjoy the smell of their own farts and work as a elevator technician?
    What if they like beastiality porn in the privacy of their own home and work at the animal shelter?

    If no, is the pursuit of truthfulness and exposure in all vices/kinks/misdeeds/etc. just in any case for any reason?
    Do the ends justify the means?

    No.
    There is too much confusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean Luc Picard
    The first duty of every Starfleet officer is to the truth, whether it's scientific truth or historical truth or personal truth! It is the guiding principle on which Starfleet is based. And if you can't find it within yourself to stand up and tell the truth about what happened, you don't deserve to wear that uniform!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lithy View Post
    This thread has been inspired by the 'outing' of that white supremacist middle school teacher lady. You may believe that this is just and i may not disagree with you, but this is not much different in practice as outing gays or other social degenerates from a time since passed. Borders on a tabloid style ruining of lives for the lulz.

    So if yes, do you have a line? Like, can they enjoy the smell of their own farts and work as a elevator technician?
    What if they like beastiality porn in the privacy of their own home and work at the animal shelter?

    If no, is the pursuit of truthfulness and exposure in all vices/kinks/misdeeds/etc. just in any case for any reason?
    I don't think it qualifies as news so no, it should not have been published. A teacher is not a public figure any more than a school bus driver and should not be subject to such scrutiny. Any concerns should have been addressed privately with her employer and disciplinary action handled internally if warranted.
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    I wouldn't want the revolting racist bitch in a position of influence over my children but I suppose it's better than a black.

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    If you don't want someone to find something, don't post it online. period.

    besides that, the last thing children need is toxic garbage peddled to them by an authority figure. We have enough hate and baseless fear in this world already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Wasabi View Post
    besides that, the last thing children need is toxic garbage peddled to them by an authority figure. We have enough hate and baseless fear in this world already.
    What makes you think this teacher would peddle toxic garbage in their classroom? Any teacher with a brain knows kids talk about anything halfway interesting to whoever is willing to listen. Good luck keeping it in the classroom if a teacher blurts out blacks are stupid, or whatever hate they can think up.

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    I'm sure I had a ton of teachers in East Texas who would have been *fucked* if blogs had been a big thing.

    Some history teachers in Texas tend to like to downplay our *involvement* in the Civil War and play up our performance in battles that happened to be taking place in Texas during the war. Wink wink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jibbajaba View Post
    Pretty much. If she just held white supremacist beliefs and hung out on white supremacist forums/subreddits/whatever, maybe even went to meetings, then OK, that's her private life. She made it public when she decided to become a public figure.
    I've been thinking about this story...

    I agree with what you've said. We live in interesting times indeed, people confusing personal opinions/freedom of speech with actual crimes. You can be a hateful bigot all you like...but you'd be wise to keep it on the down-low.

    Some people have unfairly ruined people's careers with this shit, and there are times when it goes too far, case in point:

    http://www.kansascity.com/entertainm...129787114.html

    Guy says something shitty online and has his immediate life ruined over it.

    This teacher was not bright...and she got caught. Other people are getting run over by the liberal machine for doing nothing more than saying something someone doesn't agree with.
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    Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that she used her actual picture along with her pseudonym. I saw a screenshot somewhere showing her "alternative" online profile, but it had her pic. So here's a chick bragging about using her position as a teacher to warp young minds. You have a kid in her class and you find that shit online, you're not going to say anything?

    "Oh, geez. She's trying to indoctrinate elementary school kids with her white supremacist beliefs, but gosh I want to respect her right to privacy..." - Literally no one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jibbajaba View Post
    Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that she used her actual picture along with her pseudonym. I saw a screenshot somewhere showing her "alternative" online profile, but it had her pic. So here's a chick bragging about using her position as a teacher to warp young minds. You have a kid in her class and you find that shit online, you're not going to say anything?
    She wasn't bright in the slightest...she burnt her own bridge down.

    Looking at all of this from a distance, it's all self fulfilling. Blind hate is often the byproduct of stupidity (among other things). I'm not talking about hate based on personal experiences over time...I'm talking about honest to god, all encompassing bigotry and hatred. True blue racists (of which I really do not feel there are that many of), hate without logic. These aren't often bright people. You can't hate another human being like that and be intelligent at the same time.

    The smart ones pretend to be like the morons, so they can rule the morons...like a pastor in the church. They aren't as blindly hateful as the idiot masses they are over, but they pretend to be so they'll follow them.

    This gal seems like a real idiot...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Bakaboy View Post

    Or another person at a party stuck a gerbil up their ass on a stupid dare. Well anybody hears about that is going to escalate that pretty quickly. They are totally into beastiality.
    You can just say Richard Gere, it's cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lithy View Post
    This thread has been inspired by the 'outing' of that white supremacist middle school teacher lady. You may believe that this is just and i may not disagree with you, but this is not much different in practice as outing gays or other social degenerates from a time since passed.

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    ^typical xXxfakeXsoundxXx

    I guess one of the questions is: would anyone here happily turn over a full transcript of everything they have ever posted here to an employer? their family? maybe even their spouse?

    Despite being extraordinarily public, most people act online like an extension of their private life. As in, this stuff isn't supposed to be widely scrutinized, it is for a select audience. Sure you can say to not put anything online, but how many people do you know that practice that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lithy View Post
    ^typical xXxfakeXsoundxXx

    I guess one of the questions is: would anyone here happily turn over a full transcript of everything they have ever posted here to an employer? their family? maybe even their spouse?

    Despite being extraordinarily public, most people act online like an extension of their private life. As in, this stuff isn't supposed to be widely scrutinized, it is for a select audience. Sure you can say to not put anything online, but how many people do you know that practice that?
    Few do heed that (god knows I don't).

    The gal in the discussion went full retard...she put her face out there and combined it with horribly inflammatory racism and bigotry, which is far more than most would ever do.
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    Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that she used her actual picture along with her pseudonym. I saw a screenshot somewhere showing her "alternative" online profile, but it had her pic. So here's a chick bragging about using her position as a teacher to warp young minds. You have a kid in her class and you find that shit online, you're not going to say anything?

    "Oh, geez. She's trying to indoctrinate elementary school kids with her white supremacist beliefs, but gosh I want to respect her right to privacy..." - Literally no one.
    Again, I don't really care about her, it was just the impetus for the thread, but I guess everyone wants to talk specifics and not more general like I wanted to.

    She absolutely didn't hide it well enough obviously because someone found it. Now, it shouldn't necessarily preclude her from being a teacher if she teaches the state standards, but once it came out, especially as national news, there was no way she was getting a 'proper' performance review.

    She is a public employee though and as such has somewhat more rights than a private sector employee. If the school board found out she voted for Eugene Debs for president should they be able to fire her? If she didn't say 'God hates blax' in the classroom and just taught the textbook, can you really say that her being fired is definitely not an abridgment of her first amendment rights?

    People can hold views or take actions that run counter to their jobs and still perform their job appropriately. If an accountant is in personal debt should they lose their job? They obviously can't be a good accountant if they can't manage their own books.

    The whole reason I didn't want to talk specifics though is because this case is easy pickings. No one is really going to get on this lady's side. She thinks white people are the bee's knees, they're smarter than your average black bear, and she wants to indoctrinate the yoothz with her almighty power as a middle school teacher. I'd like one person here to tell me a life changing impact that their middle school teacher had on them.

    My post was more about where this line gets drawn and who decides it? My point was about how if the wrong person gets crossed it is extremely easy to find out a lot of stuff about someone quickly and some of it might be unbecoming and employers who are usually all to easy to push over into firing someone just to avoid the headache are a quick way to mess with someone's life.

    But whatevs, let's keep bashing racists.
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