Boxing thread

Famicommander said:

Confirmed, Saunder has vacated the WBO middleweight title and Andrade will fight Kautondokwo for the vavant belt.

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LOL, British Canelo.

It's even funnier because he said Canelo should be banned for life, regardless of whether he accidentally ingested the substance (obviously he didn't, just like obviously Billy Joe didn't, but whatever), because he's responsible for what he puts into his body.

Fast forward, Billy Joe gets busted. Claims it was accidental from nasal spray, doesn't want to be suspended for life presumably.

actual photo of Eddie Hearn telling Dillian Whyte that Luis Ortiz called his bluff

they 'bout to announce Whyte vs Chisora.

call out a fighter, name a date, puss out when he accepts

Tons of fights on today, but the big one is Terence Crawford on ESPN tonight. He's in there against an undefeated but untested fighter. Crawford should dominate.

Benavidez actually had a pretty good showing but I still had it 9 rounds to 2 for Crawford at the time of the knockout.

He needs to fight Spence or Porter next. Thurman is probably going to take a tune up after all the time off.

rumored fights right now
Pacquiao vs Berto
Mayweather vs Broner

Then Mayweather vs Pacquiao II if they both win. Berto is old but then so is Pac. Berto was a two time welterweight world champion. Broner is just a headcase, but he's also a four division world champion.

I'd still expect Floyd and Pac to win, then Floyd to beat Pac again.

Famicommander said:

rumored fights right now
Pacquiao vs Berto
Mayweather vs Broner

Then Mayweather vs Pacquiao II if they both win. Berto is old but then so is Pac. Berto was a two time welterweight world champion. Broner is just a headcase, but he's also a four division world champion.

I'd still expect Floyd and Pac to win, then Floyd to beat Pac again.

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Mayweather Broner would be weird.

Sounds like Broner asked for 100 million dollars, so that shit's out the window.

old man Arum had some interesting shit to say today.

-Gilberto "Zurdo" Ramirez is defending his WBO super middleweight title in a rematch with Jesse Hart soon. If he wins, Arum plans to match him against IBF super middleweight champion Jose Uzcategui. That's assuming Uzcategui deals with Caleb Plant in the meantime.

-While WBO Interim Featherweight Champion Carl Frampton has a unification fight with IBF champion Josh Warrington, WBO full champion Oscar Valdez will take a tune up fight in his return from surgery. Then there will be a unification between Valdez and the Frampton/Warrington winner.

-A unification fight between lineal/WBC/Ring super flyweight champion Srisaket Sor Rungvisai and IBF champion Jerwin Ancajas is his "top priority" and expects the fight to happen in the first three months of 2019.

-plans to promote a WBO world super bantamweight title defense for Isaac Dogboe in his home country of Ghana

We'll see if he comes through, but all of that sounds good

https://www.boxingscene.com/garcia-commey-not-next-garcia-spence-negotiations-progressing--133128

Looks like Mikey Garcia vs Lomachenko is probably not happening soon, because instead Mikey is indeed moving up the two weight classes to fight Errol Spence Jr.

This is an incredibly ballsy move on Garcia's part. Moving up two weight classes in one fight is a big enough challenge, but doing it to fight arguably one of the top 5 fighters at any weight class is borderline nuts.

Mad props to Mikey just for taking the fight, but if he wins he's the best fighter in the world, pound for pound. Spence is way, way bigger and stronger.

Famicommander said:

https://www.boxingscene.com/garcia-commey-not-next-garcia-spence-negotiations-progressing--133128

Looks like Mikey Garcia vs Lomachenko is probably not happening soon, because instead Mikey is indeed moving up the two weight classes to fight Errol Spence Jr.

This is an incredibly ballsy move on Garcia's part. Moving up two weight classes in one fight is a big enough challenge, but doing it to fight arguably one of the top 5 fighters at any weight class is borderline nuts.

Mad props to Mikey just for taking the fight, but if he wins he's the best fighter in the world, pound for pound. Spence is way, way bigger and stronger.

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That is one hell of a prospective fight.

Famicommander said:

https://www.boxingscene.com/garcia-commey-not-next-garcia-spence-negotiations-progressing--133128

Looks like Mikey Garcia vs Lomachenko is probably not happening soon, because instead Mikey is indeed moving up the two weight classes to fight Errol Spence Jr.

This is an incredibly ballsy move on Garcia's part. Moving up two weight classes in one fight is a big enough challenge, but doing it to fight arguably one of the top 5 fighters at any weight class is borderline nuts.

Mad props to Mikey just for taking the fight, but if he wins he's the best fighter in the world, pound for pound. Spence is way, way bigger and stronger.

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Ya it made me very happy that he wasn't going to just retire like a fag to keep his undefeated record. We need more boxers chasing belts and not 0s.

Mikey is ambitious. His last fight was a lightweight unification fight, and his previous fight he won the IBF and vacant lineal super lightweight belts.

If he somehow beats Spence he'll be only the sixth guy to win a world title in five weight classes. The first five: Tommy Hearns, Sugar Ray Leonard, Oscar De La Hoya, Floyd Mayweather Jr, and Manny Pacquiao.

Big day of fights

DAZN, 2:00 PM ET:
John Ryder vs. Andrey Sirotkin, 12, WBA super middleweight eliminator
Ted Cheeseman vs. Asinia Byfield, 12 rounds, for vacant British junior middleweight title
Luke Watkins vs. Isaac Chamberlain, 10 rounds, cruiserweights
Ryan Doyle vs. Jordan Gill, 12 rounds, for Doyle's Commonwealth featherweight title
Felix Cash vs. Stephen Danyo, 10 rounds, middleweights
Craig Richards vs. Michael Ludwiczak, 6 rounds, light heavyweights
Reece Bellotti vs. Brayan Mairena, 6 rounds, featherweights
Martin J. Ward vs. Mohammed Kambuluta, 6 rounds, junior lightweights
Louie Lynn vs. Rafael Castillo, 6 rounds, featherweights
Charlie Duffield vs. Josip Perkovic, 4 rounds, light heavyweights
George Fox vs. Ferenc Zsalek, 4 rounds, heavyweights

4:00 PM ET, ESPN+:
Kubrat Pulev vs. Hughie Fury, 12 rounds, IBF heavyweight eliminator
Savannah Marshall vs. Yanina Orozco, 10 rounds, female middleweights
Tervel Pulev vs. Leonardo Bruzese, 12 rounds, cruiserweights
Stiliyan Kostov vs. Yosif Panov, 10 rounds, junior middleweights
Grigor Sarohanian vs. Mario Savic, 6 rounds, light heavyweights
Borislav Ivanov vs. TBA, 6 rounds, middleweights
Danail Stanoev vs. Lorenzo Parra, 6 rounds, welterweights
Luka Pupek vs. Daniel Rashdan, 6 rounds, middleweights
Zdravko Popov vs. Giuseppe Lauri, 4 or 6 rounds, junior middleweights
Spas Genov vs. Konstantin Semerdjiev, 8 rounds, light heavyweights

Mayweather Promotions Facebook Live, 7:00 PM ET
Juan Heraldez vs. Maynard Allison, 8 rounds, junior welterweights
Angelo Leo vs. Glenn Porras, 8 rounds, junior featherweights
Rolando Romero vs. Dieumerci Nzau, 6 rounds, lightweights
Andres Cortes vs. Omar Castillo, 6 rounds, junior lightweights

8:00 PM ET, DAZN:
Regis Prograis vs. Terry Flanagan, 12 rounds, junior welterweights, World Boxing Super Series quarterfinals
Ivan Baranchyk vs. Anthony Yigit, 12 rounds, for vacant IBF junior welterweight title, World Boxing Super Series quarterfinals
Subriel Mattias vs. Fernando David Saucedo, 10 rounds, junior welterweights
Iliyan Kolev vs. Antonio Hernandez, 4 rounds, junior middleweights
Jeremy Hill vs. Brandon Arvie, 4 rounds, lightweights
Jonathan Montrel vs. Antonio Wattell, 4 rounds, junior welterweights
Jonathon Guidry vs. Quincy Palmer, 6 rounds, heavyweights
Stephan Shaw vs. Aaron Chavers, 8 rounds, heavyweights

10:00 PM ET, HBO:
Sergiy Derevyanchenko vs. Daniel Jacobs, 12 rounds, for vacant IBF middleweight title
Alberto Machado vs. Yuandale Evans, 12 rounds, for Machado's WBA "regular" junior lightweight title
Heather Hardy vs. Shelly Vincent, rematch, 10 rounds, for vacant WBO women's featherweight title

The World Boxing Super Series is the best thing to happen to boxing in years.

They select 10 fighters, 8 for the tournament and 2 injury replacement stand-bys, from the top 15-20 ranked in any division and just put them in a tournament. They work with the governing bodies to work eliminators or mandatories into the formats so nobody gets stripped of any belts. They have an extra judge on standby in case the three main ones turn in a draw. Everybody gets cash up front. No ducking, nobody crying about money, no draws, no governing body shenanigans, no injuries derailing the whole thing.

The first season got us
Usyk with the undisputed WBA (Super)/WBC/IBF/WBO/Ring/lineal world cruiserweight championship
Callum Smith with the WBA (Super)/Ring world and WBC Diamond super widdleweight championship

And season 2 will get us
A unified WBA (Super)/IBF/WBC Interim/Ring/lineal world and WBC Silver super lightweight champion
A unified WBA (Super AND Regular)/WBO/IBF/Ring/lineal world bantamweight champion

And if Usyk moves up to heavyweight, some or all of his belts will probably be on the line at the end of the season 2 cruiserweight tournament.

Easy work for Pulev. Fury rocked him briefly in the 8th but I still had it 9 rounds to 3 for Pulev.

Not sure Pulev is big enough to beat Joshua but he'll get his chance at least.

Mikey Garcia has officially vacated his IBF lightweight world championship.

This is pretty much a confirmation that the Spence fight is going to happen. There's no other reason Mikey would drop the belt.

He still has the WBC lightweight title, and won't have to vacate it to fight Spence because he doesn't have a mandatory due soon.

We got us an undisputed title fight this Saturday.

Undisputed WBA (Super)/ WBC/IBF/WBO/Ring/lineal World Cruiserweight Champion Oleksandr Usyk defends against former two division world champion Tony Bellew.

This is the first time a male fighter has defended an undisputed title since Roy Jones Jr in 2002. Everyone who has unified all the belts since then either moved up in weight, retired, or was stripped of one of the belts for refusing to face a mandatory challenger.

As for the fight itself, I feel like Usyk on an entirely different level from Bellew, skill-wise. He should box circles around Bellew. But Usyk may not have the power to knock Usyk out, and we don't know if Usyk's chin could really hold up if Bellew catches him with a mean left hook. So it's going to be one of those high tension fights because one guy knows his only chance to win is to KO the much more skilled fighter.

Just about an hour away.

Surprisingly good fight by Bellew, I had him up 4 rounds to 3, until Usyk knocked him cold in the 8th.

Usyk has a habit of giving away early rounds but today it could have cost him the fight.

I also don't think Usyk can beat Joshua or Wilder. They're just too big and strong. Usyk looked bothered by the power of Bellew, who is a much lighter puncher than the top heavyweights.

Just a few more weeks until this guy fights Deontay Wilder

Bellow looked pretty good for the first half of the fight but Usyk was too good for him, to be fair the guy is a classy boxer but he's no heavyweight, he's not got the power to upset the top tier fighters, and if one of them connects with a big shot and he's gonna see stars.

Usyk is the fucking man, man.
He would and will beat Joshua (a more likely future opponent than Wilder) should it ever happen. He has to stay hungry and push up a gear or two. He's at a sweetspot age-wise, maybe his best is yet to come.
A southpaw with 11 of his 15 wins coming by way of ko.
15 fighs and he's pulled all of this off, it does seem a little disproportionate though. Has he been properly tested yet? Are there good fighters at cruiser right now?








So maybe I hyped him up a bit too much. I admit it

Usyk has cleaned out the cruiserweight division. His skill is beyond question.

But I just don't think he's big enough. He's going to give up 4-5 inches in reach, 3-4 inches in height, and 15-25 pounds in weight to Joshua or Wilder. I don't think he has the power to hurt them and I don't think his chin will hold up against them. Usyk will have to get inside and do damage while he's there without getting caught for the entire fight.

I think Usyk's frame can hold the extra weight where he can still be effective. A Mackie Shilstone type buildup to about the region of 215-220.

As Fami says though, can he take the punch of those naturally bigger men.