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    Still waiting my tracking number , don't know if neosd has moved to the second day orders shipment , never mind ... i can wait .

    By the way , I'm really disgusted about some comments on shmups , especially the moron who send back the pcesd3.

    Some like me barely dared to dream about PCE Super SD System 3 for almost a decade .... How such reactions can happen ?

    keep your head up Alex ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by greatfunky View Post
    Still waiting my tracking number , don't know if neosd has moved to the second day orders shipment , never mind ... i can wait .

    By the way , I'm really disgusted about some comments on shmups , especially the moron who send back the pcesd3.

    Some like me barely dared to dream about PCE Super SD System 3 for almost a decade .... How such reactions can happen ?

    keep your head up Alex ...
    Oh man, I quit going to shmups ages ago. Nerd snowflake collectards give me ultra-turbo-rage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pixeljunkie View Post
    Oh man, I quit going to shmups ages ago. Nerd snowflake collectards give me ultra-turbo-rage.
    Except it's that shmups thread that's going to get these cable and RGB quality issues resolved. Ironically, the thread was briefly derailed by someone posting like they were here. Otherwise, it's been a productive and civil discussion, and why that would induce rage, I have no idea.

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    I'm curious to know if anyone has tried the SD3 with a crt yet. So far It's been upscaler issues with cables and that's fine that people are trying to figure out what's the best solution but I just want to know if anyone has experienced any issues with crt? Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAZO View Post
    I'm curious to know if anyone has tried the SD3 with a crt yet. So far It's been upscaler issues with cables and that's fine that people are trying to figure out what's the best solution but I just want to know if anyone has experienced any issues with crt? Thank you


    Issue still happens with CRT.


    I tested mine with my OSSC and PVM. Same issue on both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yodd View Post
    Issue still happens with CRT.


    I tested mine with my OSSC and PVM. Same issue on both.
    Thanks Todd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAZO View Post
    I'm curious to know if anyone has tried the SD3 with a crt yet. So far It's been upscaler issues with cables and that's fine that people are trying to figure out what's the best solution but I just want to know if anyone has experienced any issues with crt? Thank you
    I only tried it on my PVM and didn't have any issues. What issues are people having? Haven't tried the thing on my framemeister yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomasmahler View Post
    I only tried it on my PVM and didn't have any issues. What issues are people having? Haven't tried the thing on my framemeister yet.
    Good To Hear. Any background Video Noise? Some people are experiencing weird stuff with the Bonks Games. Try it on your framemeister and let us know. thanks

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    Looks like one of my other cables arrived today. I'll check it out tonight.

    Also waiting on a 9pin mini din connector to arrive. Building another cable as well. Test that also.

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    I had this one arrive today: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Seems to be the shittiest one yet in terms of build quality.

    I remembered I have one of those Genesis component cables somewhere from HD retrovision for their kickstarter. Thinking about giving them a test if nobody else has already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flashbackx View Post
    I had this one arrive today: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Seems to be the shittiest one yet in terms of build quality.

    I remembered I have one of those Genesis component cables somewhere from HD retrovision for their kickstarter. Thinking about giving them a test if nobody else has already.
    I'm curious about the retrovision cables...was potentially planning on using them.

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    That's what I was planning on using, but I went with Correos shipping so I don't know when I'll get mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RevQuixo View Post
    I'm curious about the retrovision cables...was potentially planning on using them.
    I should be posting this in tech... Just to give you an update here and I'll post further discussion in the FUCKING CABLE forum.

    I don't want to drag out a PVM, so keep in mind I tested via the Framemeister which many already know looks shitty via component and the d-terminal. It worked very well... it doesn't look near as good as RGB but it's acceptable. I'll wager that if you use them directly to LCD component or to a CRT they will look awesome. The noise described earlier was still there, but that could be due to my setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flashbackx View Post
    I should be posting this in tech... Just to give you an update here and I'll post further discussion in the FUCKING CABLE forum.

    I don't want to drag out a PVM, so keep in mind I tested via the Framemeister which many already know looks shitty via component and the d-terminal. It worked very well... it doesn't look near as good as RGB but it's acceptable. I'll wager that if you use them directly to LCD component or to a CRT they will look awesome. The noise described earlier was still there, but that could be due to my setup.
    Yeah.. prob for the best...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdkind View Post
    Except it's that shmups thread that's going to get these cable and RGB quality issues resolved. Ironically, the thread was briefly derailed by someone posting like they were here. Otherwise, it's been a productive and civil discussion, and why that would induce rage, I have no idea.
    They took the nicey nice approach a month ago and it got nothing done. Sometimes people have to get pissed off in order to do the right thing. Just human nature unfortunately.

    Agree the NeoSD team should take a step back though now that they're actually fixing the situation (like they should've a month ago but that hardly matters here and now).

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    Quote Originally Posted by TuSecsy View Post
    They took the nicey nice approach a month ago and it got nothing done. Sometimes people have to get pissed off in order to do the right thing. Just human nature unfortunately.

    Agree the NeoSD team should take a step back though now that they're actually fixing the situation (like they should've a month ago but that hardly matters here and now).
    How about you be quiet for a while...

    I read that thread... you came across as slightly two-faced...

    People may not like me in certain quarters... but one thing is assured... they ALL know where I stand...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAZO View Post
    I'm curious to know if anyone has tried the SD3 with a crt yet. So far It's been upscaler issues with cables and that's fine that people are trying to figure out what's the best solution but I just want to know if anyone has experienced any issues with crt? Thank you
    Heres mine running on a trinitron crt , no upscalers and a 6 euro shit genesis 2 rgb scartcable

    https://www.facebook.com/vincent.bij...7341357926164/

    (dont forget to set to 1440p

    and i think it looks glorious. then again, im not some rgb fashionada fetishist and i have no idea about how it should look, otherwise i would be emulating it on a pc without any static noise or scanline banding.
    and the scanline bending is from my phone/camera.

    that tv is over 25 years old hehe

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    and not to start a flame war or contribute negatively to the whole thing going on: i had no involvement in the hardware design at all, but the entitlement and whining ive read online (and no, most guys have been totally cool with us, its just those john silva's that stick out )

    , it seems some people forget that u are playing with 30 year old hardware that didnt even had a proper rgb output in that time , and then complain it doesnt work 100% with your expensive framemeister and oscc whatever in 2018 is just mind blowing to read sometimes.

    again, im just an avarage joe when it comes to hardware and shit, i dont earn any euro or dollar with every ssds3 sold (im working totally for free on these projects, except they send me a device, ofcourse ) so, i dont care if u buy it or dont buy it, but some of the bitching ive seen takes a toll even on me, feeling like not even wanting to do anything anymore for these communities, neo-geo or pcengine sofar.

    Then again: im looking forward to all the bitching on the other products we have lined up, but it can be very stressfull sometimes.

    end of rant. i dont wanna insult people personally or anything, its just how i observe it from the sideline, some ppl are OCD's freaks to me when it comes to that stuff about rgb or a sticker design on a shell =) Internet is a bitch sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alienpdx View Post
    and not to start a flame war or contribute negatively to the whole thing going on: i had no involvement in the hardware design at all, but the entitlement and whining ive read online (and no, most guys have been totally cool with us, its just those john silva's that stick out )

    , it seems some people forget that u are playing with 30 year old hardware that didnt even had a proper rgb output in that time , and then complain it doesnt work 100% with your expensive framemeister and oscc whatever in 2018 is just mind blowing to read sometimes.

    again, im just an avarage joe when it comes to hardware and shit, i dont earn any euro or dollar with every ssds3 sold (im working totally for free on these projects, except they send me a device, ofcourse ) so, i dont care if u buy it or dont buy it, but some of the bitching ive seen takes a toll even on me, feeling like not even wanting to do anything anymore for these communities, neo-geo or pcengine sofar.

    Then again: im looking forward to all the bitching on the other products we have lined up, but it can be very stressfull sometimes.

    end of rant. i dont wanna insult people personally or anything, its just how i observe it from the sideline, some ppl are OCD's freaks to me when it comes to that stuff about rgb or a sticker design on a shell =) Internet is a bitch sometimes.
    Many here share your opinion , i don't like the way everything has turned out, it seems to me that neosd team was taken hostage by some RGB fanatics.

    Technically, the rgb output of the pcesd3 is equivalent or superior than what was officialy done at the time and I know what I'm talking about, I live in France and we were among those who had the only rgb consoles of the era.

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    I'll play this sucker off'f composite if I have to. Remember when us 'Mericans used to do everything off of RF? Dark days.

    I'm glad that there's people in the scene helping out. Everyone else, I feel, needs a sense of perspective. Most of the largest companies I can think of off the top of my head have released products into the wild with bigger problems than what's facing Terraonion. I mean, Samsung released a phone that randomly caught on fire, ffs. And they no doubt had dozens, if not hundreds, of employees working on their products.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alienpdx View Post
    Heres mine running on a trinitron crt , no upscalers and a 6 euro shit genesis 2 rgb scartcable

    https://www.facebook.com/vincent.bij...7341357926164/

    (dont forget to set to 1440p

    and i think it looks glorious. then again, im not some rgb fashionada fetishist and i have no idea about how it should look, otherwise i would be emulating it on a pc without any static noise or scanline banding.
    and the scanline bending is from my phone/camera.

    that tv is over 25 years old hehe
    Looks Good To Me. Thank you for making the Video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alienpdx View Post
    and not to start a flame war or contribute negatively to the whole thing going on: i had no involvement in the hardware design at all, but the entitlement and whining ive read online (and no, most guys have been totally cool with us, its just those john silva's that stick out )

    , it seems some people forget that u are playing with 30 year old hardware that didnt even had a proper rgb output in that time , and then complain it doesnt work 100% with your expensive framemeister and oscc whatever in 2018 is just mind blowing to read sometimes.

    again, im just an avarage joe when it comes to hardware and shit, i dont earn any euro or dollar with every ssds3 sold (im working totally for free on these projects, except they send me a device, ofcourse ) so, i dont care if u buy it or dont buy it, but some of the bitching ive seen takes a toll even on me, feeling like not even wanting to do anything anymore for these communities, neo-geo or pcengine sofar.

    Then again: im looking forward to all the bitching on the other products we have lined up, but it can be very stressfull sometimes.

    end of rant. i dont wanna insult people personally or anything, its just how i observe it from the sideline, some ppl are OCD's freaks to me when it comes to that stuff about rgb or a sticker design on a shell =) Internet is a bitch sometimes.
    Yea, alot of older members here feel the same way as you Alien. I agree with your feelings on this matter. We have some smart guys on this Forum and I have No Doubt they'll figure out what's going on with this rgb cable issue. People just need to be patient.

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    Hang in there neosd team. We are all rooting for you. If I haven't already, I would like to apologize for my comment regarding shell fitment. When I originally posted it, it didn't seem mean to me, however after I rereading the comment the following day it struck me as brash and rude. I hope this comment never discouraged you and I am still super excited. I am also gleefully happy that this thing works better than the real thing. This ode ends much of my frustration because I originally bought a broken duo hoping to fix it. After cleaning up someone's shotty repair job and replacing all the capacitors, the op amps and the drive, this thing began to work. Although the pc duo worked, I still couldn't get redbook audio working. In addition, whilst I now have all the remaining chips to replace the entirety of the audio circuit , at some point I had to just sit back and say I had chased this rabbit far enough and whilst I'm sure I could get this thing working it wouldn't be worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rot View Post

    I have advised Alex... (who is under a great deal of stress...)... to take timeout from all froum activity unless necessary...
    Good call. Right now would be more stressful than necessary.

    Wait until you have good news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fenikso View Post
    I'll play this sucker off'f composite if I have to. Remember when us 'Mericans used to do everything off of RF? Dark days.
    I was just thinking that! I had an unmodded Super CDRom2 system I left stock, just recappped. I played it through composite via Framemeister and it was not bad AT ALL. I would liken it to the SNES Mini with "CRT" effect. So, yeah, I am fully prepared to do that with this if RGB is less than satisfactory out of the box. And I'll be happy to do so, considering it's magical powers.

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