Terraonion New Product(s) discussion thread

fenikso

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The Sega CD has a bad rep because of the FMV games, but it actually has solid, unique games covering almost every 16 bit genre. Yes, some of them are Genesis ports, but the ports are "definitive" versions with more animation, more levels, animated cut scenes and CD audio. All of these Sega CD games are worthwhile:

JRPG
Lunar The Silver Star
Lunar 2 Eternal Blue
Vay

Strategy
Shining Force CD
Dark Wizard

Platform Action
Sonic CD
Popful Mail
Earthworm Jim
Out of this World 1 & 2
Flashback
Flink
Earnest Evans
The Terminator
Demolition Man

Shmup
Android Assault
Lords of Thunder
Keio Flying Squadron
Robo Aleste
Soul Star
Silpheed
Starblade

Mech Combat
Battle Corps

One-on-one Fighting
Eternal Champions
Fatal Fury Special
Samurai Shodown

Beat-em-up
Anett Futatabi
Final Fight
Ninja Warriors

Graphic Adventure
Jurassic Park
Secret of Monkey Island
Snatcher
Rise of the Dragon
Willy Beamish

First-Person Dungeon Crawler
Eye of the Beholder
Dungeon Master 2

While that is a boss list you posted, a couple of those don't live up to the hype. Popful Mail was a huge dissappointment to me and SamSho can be played cheaper and better practically anywhere. Still more than enough on that list to justify a purchase for me.
 
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ShootTheCore

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I really enjoyed Popful Mail FWIW, and the Sega CD version is far superior to the PCEngine version-even though that version even uses the Arcade Card.

As for Jurassic Park Sega CD-it’s a completely different game from every other platform’s Jurassic Park game. It’s a first-person puzzle-driven graphic adventure. Try it with an FAQ-it’s pretty good.
 

sr20det510

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I really enjoyed Popful Mail FWIW, and the Sega CD version is far superior to the PCEngine version-even though that version even uses the Arcade Card.

As for Jurassic Park Sega CD-it’s a completely different game from every other platform’s Jurassic Park game. It’s a first-person puzzle-driven graphic adventure. Try it with an FAQ-it’s pretty good.

Jurassic Park was weak.
I'd rather play Willy Beamish, and that was better on PC.
 
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Would it make sense to make a product that targets modders instead of directly targeting consumers?

I also would love ODE’s for segacd, CD-I, PC-FX, and GameCube (I know the GameCube can use the wii fusion boards, but those are hard to come by).

I accept that at least the first 3 probably have too small a target audience to make a direct product for. I’m pretty sure the CD-I and PC-FX would never be a simple plug and play device. And the segacd has other functionality to think about if it were plug and play.

So, what about something that is meant to replace just the laser and motors of any cdrom/gdrom/dvd drive. I’m assuming each system would require a bit of adaptation. But at the end of the day, if you can hook what region of the optical media the system is trying to be read (motor inputs) and feed those raw bits back to the console as though it came directly from the laser. Then you have a generic ODE for the smaller markets.

I’m assuming you wouldn’t want to make adapters for all the different drive controllers on different systems. So what if you do 95% of the work to make the generic parts and sell them to small time modders that take on the work of adapter boards and installation.

The smaller markets get served without you having to serve them.

Just a thought. I’m sure your next products will be amazing and I wish you success and fortune.
 

Yodd

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I wouldn't mind seeing some nice wireless gamepads for the Sega Genesis/Megadrive and TG16/PCE

I know krikzz was working on one for the Megadrive, but I don't know where it stands.


And instead of reproducing whole controller shell/case and buttons, make it a drop in pcb for original controllers.

Sell receiver (for the console) + gamepad pcb.



8bitdo pretty much have the NES/SNES controller game locked down with great quality stuff, but no one is servicing Sega and NEC fans. And there a BUNCH of them out there.
 

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Yeah, I agree with regards to Saturn and Dreamcast devices - they are hard to get as always out of stock. Maybe Terra Onion should do a deal with them, to manufacture and sell a product on their behalf? That way there's little R&D required, just maybe a board redesign, a licence agreement between them, and manufacture and sell. That way everyone wins, and a good supply from that point in time. The alternative is a competing product, but is it worth trying to compete there? I would certainly buy one for each of those systems - if they were ever in stock lol.
 

oliverclaude

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Yeah, I agree with regards to Saturn and Dreamcast devices - they are hard to get as always out of stock. Maybe Terra Onion should do a deal with them, to manufacture and sell a product on their behalf?

I should think, with a skilled team like they have, they don't need anyones behalf. A cooperation would be only justified, if they'd work on a consolized MAME ;).
 

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Hello,

Its being kinda complicated to decide 2019 products, cause our company has a lot of expenses so we need to sell more than neosd did.
I mean : Neosd did well for the price tag that it has, but we need to deliver cheaper products to reach more people, this is a fact.

We can make cheaper and faster products or we can make harder, longer and more expensive ones.

I think Super SD System 3 sales arround May 2018 will give us a hint about what we should do next.

Honestly, any idea is welcome cause we are considering anything for 2019
 

fille1976

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i have gdemu for dreamcast,and mnemo,i don't buy from him,my own decission.
 

RevQuixo

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I'm always a little iffy about ordering goods from Russia and StoneAgeGamer has had some issues with mnemo, which also turns me off from going down that road.
 
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Fair enough if people are wary. Anecdotally I’ve had no issues either of the 2 times I’ve bought from him.
 

fille1976

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I follow many forums and readed many threads about usbgdrom.
Its a good product,only the seller i have doubts by.
Neosd has exellent service and product support,so why i should buy from mnemo.
We will see whats next,gdemu works fantastic,no problems at all with it.
Hope neosd makes something in the coming years for psx-dc and scd.
Amiga cd32 and 3do is also welcome.
I have a psio for psx,but i'm so happy with the quality of neosd products that i don't want from others,they know what they do and have many knowlegd about everything.
Their goal is to make a top product.
 

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Fair enough if people are wary. Anecdotally I’ve had no issues either of the 2 times I’ve bought from him.

Heh... welcome back...

Nice to see your recent NG.com "experience"... hasn't deterred you...

xROTx

PS. Back on topic... the Arcade scene is good... but will NEVER be as strong as the console scene...

Specialist products like a CPS 1/2 Multi... will never outsell something like the current SD 3 PCE device... Just sayin' lads...
 

RevQuixo

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Heh... welcome back...

Nice to see your recent NG.com "experience"... hasn't deterred you...

xROTx

PS. Back on topic... the Arcade scene is good... but will NEVER be as strong as the console scene...

Specialist products like a CPS 1/2 Multi... will never outsell something like the current SD 3 PCE device... Just sayin' lads...

I dunno. Slap some controller ports and PSU on a cps1/2 multi and you have a “console” with a line-up that rivals a lot of other real systems.
 

Rot

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I dunno. Slap some controller ports and PSU on a cps1/2 multi and you have a “console” with a line-up that rivals a lot of other real systems.

OK OK... you can have that one:D

I agree... the CPS 1 and 2 markets are big... but i'm just sayin' that the console market always has a larger userbase...

I'm here on still one of the biggest and oldest gaming sites on the internet... and I KNOW a lot of our members have cab and jamma setups...

But in reality... we all know that the console market dwarfs the jamma base...

xROTx
 

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You could expand that reach, with the right product. The challenge is the relatively small pool of folks running CPS I & II systems on their cabs or superguns, so an accessory to improve their experiences is limiting. If the product was a complete system, in the vein of these FPGA consoles, it could be a completely different story. I suppose that describes all potential arcade products, though. It's much smoother to get volume by supporting the ocean of consoles already out there. At this point in TerraOnion's life, it probably makes most sense to leverage their know-how with something similar to the SD3 for another system. Something even more challenging, but in the same spirit (i.e. running laps around current solutions +++). With that said, I'd definitely love to see them try their hand at more arcade products. Might just be a challenge in need of some creativity. Who knows what else they might achieve?
 

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From a commercially viable standpoint, there's a logical solution:

An FPGA Sega Genesis console. Plays carts and ROMS. Optionally: include Master System support.

Build up to scale, sell it at the magic $199 price point, and have a production pipeline in place to feed the demand. Get the word out on various gaming news outlets.

And make sure you beat Analogue Interactive to the punch.
 

RAZO

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OK OK... you can have that one:D

I agree... the CPS 1 and 2 markets are big... but i'm just sayin' that the console market always has a larger userbase...

I'm here on still one of the biggest and oldest gaming sites on the internet... and I KNOW a lot of our members have cab and jamma setups...

But in reality... we all know that the console market dwarfs the jamma base...

xROTx

I agree. As bad as I would love a CPS1 Multi or even another CPS2 Multi, a special Nintendo Device created by TerraOnion would probably outsell anything they created.
 

fille1976

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Why fpga genesis,i think the most have a genesis or megadrive,i only don't know if its possible to create something for sega cd,its probably not easy.
For genesis there is mega everdrive,but for the cd addon there is nothing.
 

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FPGA GB/GBC with original cart slot & decent backlit screen plz

Between the existing handheld emu machines and things like GB Boy Colour, I don't think there's a big enough market for this. Plus, there are rumors circulating about a GB Classic from Nintendo, which won't have a cart slot, but if it's real, it will most certainly be hacked to run ROMs.

From a commercially viable standpoint, there's a logical solution: An FPGA Sega Genesis console. Plays carts and ROMS. Optionally: include Master System support.

I don't think it would sell. Krikzz is offering three flash devices for the Megadrive alone, plus one for SMS. All of the MD carts support SMS games [X7 even has YM2413 emulation], and 32X games with the addon. Plus a bunch of features like cheat codes, snapshot saves for X7, CD BIOS and RAM ... That's hard to beat, and it runs on original hardware, which no matter the model, has RGB support.

What I would like to see is an ultimate SNES cartridge. SD2SNES is great, but lacks support for some important chips. There's obviously room for improvement. I have no idea what the marked for this would be. RetroUSB's PowerPak has been out for ages, and we have Super Everdrive and SD2SNES that have been out for quite some time. Not to mention other solutions, like Neo Flash.
 
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