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SS III is pure force of nature. Lovely
SS2 and SSIV used to be the only two games in the series that fans could agree on. What changed?
What changed?
I made a thread about it like ten years ago and then people liked SSIII
I made a thread about it like ten years ago and then people liked SSIII
oh you mean the "lone sage made liking ss3 cool" thread.
ok - these 3 statements are interesting - the last one I've never ehard before, but I'll discuss it.
It's too hard
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and the fights are too short
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someone isn't very good at the game.
Let me admit, I still get my ass handed to me by the AI. I don't complain though. The computer takes the same damage that it gives. It doesn't do "crazy things" like dragon punches sans recovery time. It's just smart. And if you can't appreciate what is the smartest AI on the neo geo, then I would say you have a personal issue.
I really like what Takumaji said - play against someone who is good and you'll learn tricks that open the game like a treasure chest. Indeed that is true - and it was true for me. Although I loved the game from the start, I had the priviledge of playing it at Chinatown fair back in 1995~1996 all the time against the best FOB (term used endearingly) ninjas chinatown had to offer. And I learned to play the game well. The controls were, and are, excellent, even to this day. Compared to KoF 95 which had stiffer controls and an insane normal difficulty, SSIII was a breeze.
And you can't complain about control in SSIII. Play a 2 player game and have your friend come at you with a combo - what can you do in 3 that you can't do in IV? Counter out of the combo. Yeah, if your blocking in IV, you're just going to have to wait a while. If you get hit after having your combo blocked, I guess you fell asleep.
SSIII was also the last game to have unique commands for each DM. I don't know how anyone could appreciate the dumbing down of the controls in SSIV, but I guess some people also like paint by numbers and the feeling of victory after taking 3rd grade math tests, so no big deal. back, forward, down +AB. Combine that with the Killer Instinct dail-a-combo CD,A,A,B,B,C,C,A,B,C,C,C,C,C and you've got gameplay gold.... or at least the biggest piece of gilded cack for 1996. This isn't about IV, but I do see that a lot of people who dislike III, love IV. The only thing I like about IV is Kazuki. His brother, Cheezetsu Cheezama, proves without a doubt how unbalanced the game was. Of course, anyone that that tried to play as Amakusa in SSIII would see an imbalance there, but at least Amakusa could use cheap tactics to score a win. Sadly, SSIV Gaira cannot do shit against a good Sogetsu player.
So anyhow, on to that point about the lack of interesting characters... SSIV had 1 new character that was interesting - Kazuki. They killed the most interesting parts of Basara, made Jubei 30 pounds overweight, turned Tam Tam into a pervert, and still neglected us Earthquake and Gen-An, who I much prefered over Tam Tam... Charlotte, I loved her variable DM, but I felt she just wasn't the same as from II, and it doesn't feel right playing as her. Right, that said, I don't really think IV is successor to I and II that people were looking for after III proved so different. But people like it for whatever reason. Hey, I like Blazing Star more than Pulstar, and some purists would tell me that Pulstar is better. It's all taste.
Right now, my only gripe with SSIII is that there are decapitations in the game, and I can't figure out how to unlock them through the debug dips. Gawd... I'd love to run this game through a decompiler and figure out how to get that shit to show up in gameplay.
edit: I don't drink at work, but I type like I do.
in short, I am a poser, and wasabi made liking SS3 cool
Don't forget Kickmaster and Power Blade, faggot.
here is the thread he's talking about, back when he was known as FeelGood.
http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?15699-Why-does-nobody-like-SS3
I can't go back to most of the early Neo games. Either the gameplay is clunky, or overly difficult, or simply boring.
Alpha Mission 2
Andro Dunos
Art of Fighting
Baseball Stars
Burning Fight
Eight Man
Ghost Pilots
Legend of Success Joe
Magician Lord
Ninja Combat
Puzzled
Robo Army
Sengoku
Super Sidekicks
The Super Spy
Top Players Golf
World Heroes
I can't get into any of these games.
Honestly, I don't think that SNK started putting out really quality content until 93-94. Once games like Samurai Shodown, and Windjammers, and Spinmaster came out, that's when the Neo started to get exciting, and I wanted one.
I'm the opposite - the early releases are my favorite ones. There's a lot of character in those games - they really set the system apart from the others of the time.
I'm the opposite - the early releases are my favorite ones. There's a lot of character in those games - they really set the system apart from the others of the time.
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Most of those games felt like something that could be easily done on the Super Nintendo or Genesis, or even the TG-16. Art of Fighting was the only game from that era that felt like I was playing something that I just wouldn't be able to get from the other 16-bit consoles, but even then the control was so unforgiving that I wasn't a fan for anything other than the graphics.
And character? In Success Joe or Andros Dunos? Nah son...
I'd agree to some games in that list, maybe 2 or 3, defo LoSJ. I understand where you're coming from though, a lot of casuals share the same opinion about the older games.I can't go back to most of the early Neo games. Either the gameplay is clunky, or overly difficult, or simply boring.
Alpha Mission 2
Andro Dunos
Art of Fighting
Baseball Stars
Burning Fight
Eight Man
Ghost Pilots
Legend of Success Joe
Magician Lord
Ninja Combat
Puzzled
Robo Army
Sengoku
Super Sidekicks
The Super Spy
Top Players Golf
World Heroes
I can't get into any of these games.
Honestly, I don't think that SNK started putting out really quality content until 93-94. Once games like Samurai Shodown, and Windjammers, and Spinmaster came out, that's when the Neo started to get exciting, and I wanted one.
BlackaneseNiNjA said:SS3 is indeed awesome. There's been a pretty big increase in love for SSIII over the years here.
I still like Ghost Pilots and Ninja Combat...................even in 2017