You aren't a climate scientist either though. None of us are.
Excellent point, you're finally getting it! Which is why I defer to climate scientists. Does that not seem rational to you?
You aren't a climate scientist either though. None of us are.
StevenK, do you really believe one day in your life time will not come due to human behavior and the climate?
Do you really believe that is the main worry regarding climate change?
Do you really believe one day in your life time will not come due to human behavior and the climate?
Absolutely not.
Are you saying that you think that the concern about climate change is that the world will end within 50 years? Is that what you think this is all about?
That's priceless, I hope you didn't pay for those climate change classes you took.
Selfish, irrational, victim complex.... you're a solid guy.Okay, so stop worrying so hard about it then.
You don't fucking say.I have no interest in a career in earth science.
I understand the general consequences of pushing against market forces. I don't agree that, in this case, it's a significant concern. The energy market is already wildly distorted by national and international politics. If we're going to tolerate OPEC running a shameless international cartel, is it inappropriate to push back with our own national programs? I don't see a way for energy - petrochemical or otherwise - to ever be a straightforward market-driven system.
Right back to ad hominem. I asked you a simple question.
So steven, what is the solution to climate change. What do we do?
Steven, my biggest issue with it is how is the decision made that a action is not natural earth process and caused by human intervention.
Steven, my biggest issue with it is how is the decision made that a action is not natural earth process and caused by human intervention. My fear is how profitable and dangerous that type of thing can be to those who can see business opportunity or legislation. It opens a propaganda door that I do feel should be monitored. Not from a paranoia sense, but with skepticism of someones honesty. I mean, I'm totally fine being wrong on stuff. No worries, I'm just a spectator. Not claiming expertise here.
Right back to ad hominem. I asked you a simple question.
So steven, what is the solution to climate change. What do we do?
Probably Hydrogen for vehicles and a mixture of solar, nuclear, geothermal and wind turbines. I am sure there are more viable ideas mind you. When it comes to moving away from fossil fuels we seem to be waiting for nuclear fusion to become efficient and available. Who knows if breaking even with that is even possible within this century! For us all living in developed nations we are still fumbling about with restrictions and carbon taxes when we really should be applying a forced albeit considerate transition towards energy sources that do not pollute. At the very least for a clean local environment and reduced smog, saving the planet is another thing altogether.
In my eyes it is stupidity to retard investment and transition towards cleaner energy and I'm not a save the planet type I can assure you...
Excellent point, you're finally getting it! Which is why I defer to climate scientists. Does that not seem rational to you?
StevenK, do you really believe one day in your life time will not come due to human behavior and the climate?
Bottom line, if I was a liberal still and had supported Hillary and did all the same stuff, Poppy would have never posted any of this.
He can't handle dissension on any level, as soon as something doesn't 100% agree with his thought pattern, he resorts to personal attacks. This entire thing started during that thread. The original politics thread. As soon as I thought I'd vote for Trump he went nuts on me.
For someone so 'smart', explain to me why he feeds his day purely off fucking with people? Don't smart people have well paid careers and not the time for this stuff? This type judgmental 'my way or the highway' behavior and thinking is why I just can't stand a lot of the feeling coming from that side. It's a mindset that is slowly eroding us into censorship culture, and it should be confronted. If you guys want to defend the liberal side, aligning yourself with that type trolling, (many times unwarranted) is bad for your argument. People are tired of being labeled, it's a simple concept and it doesn't make you a racist or hate monger to state it as such. Many conservatives are afraid here to voice their opinions. You can actually readily see it because they view stuff and not reply. Is that the type of dialogue you want in a free society?
Hillary lost because she was a raging piece of shit, and you had shit or shit to choose from. I don't sit around deleting my Hillary supporting friends or others. Many of the Trump supporters are sensible people. Not racists or other shit, and there people out there that latch onto some of the dumb shit he's said who are haters. The media fixation is nuts, and Poppy, you don't fact check, you virtue signal, and betray those same virtues in your structuring via the trolling and the word faggot. You want to be fair and smart and a good person? Make a thread all about how fucked up Hillary is to.
Blame Hillary for being so fucking 'It's decided, I've won already' and full of herself that people were itching to stick it to her. I bet MANY Trump voters chose to vote for that reason alone.
I spent a lot of the election season watching HA Goodman. He's actually a progressive and had some interesting insight. I just got sick and am still sick of the New York Times and CNN shitting out opinion pieces and not getting it. In fact, HA Goodman was a contributor on CNN. He completely gets it.
I like fairness and real discussion where someone isn't labeling or resorting to straw man arguments, even if YOU HATED my views this last season, look over a chunk of my 'wall' posts and be truly honest that I wasn't at least fair in MANY instances. I encourage people to do so. I don't take Alex Jones seriously almost ever, and lumping me into that crowd is just sad and a perfect example of the bullshit labeling.
You live in california. Lol. Your opinion could only be more ridiculous if you lived in Phoenix.
Phoenix is basically a city-sized geriatric ward. "What the fuck are all these Mexicans doing right next to Mexico?"
You think its a funny joke to make statements about lynching people. Is that funny to you?