FF: MOTW Dreamcast boot issue

johhnnyD14 · Feb 24, 2016

No matter what I do, I cannot boot up past the "Produded by or Under License from SEGA" screen. It flashes black then goes back to the OS menu.

None of my other GD-Rom games do this, could it just be a bad disc? It looks good on the underside other than a few scratches

ggallegos1 · Feb 24, 2016

johhnnyD14 said:
No matter what I do, I cannot boot up past the "Produded by or Under License from SEGA" screen. It flashes black then goes back to the OS menu.

None of my other GD-Rom games do this, could it just be a bad disc? It looks good on the underside other than a few scratches

Are you running it through VGA? Some games cannot boot past this issue and can only be played via svid unless you do a disc swap or something.

ballzdeepx · Feb 24, 2016

Yep, try it in composite or svid to check.

Some games do this over scart as well yet work fine on VGA.

johhnnyD14 · Feb 24, 2016

ggallegos1 said:
Are you running it through VGA? Some games cannot boot past this issue and can only be played via svid unless you do a disc swap or something.

Yes I am, but I never had this problem before

ballzdeepx · Feb 24, 2016

johhnnyD14 said:
Yes I am, but I never had this problem before

Yes, but are all your parameters the same (same DC, Same video cables, same tv)

Just curious.

johhnnyD14 · Feb 24, 2016

ballzdeepx said:
Yes, but are all your parameters the same (same DC, Same video cables, same tv)

Just curious.

Yes, they're all exactly the same.

I have it working through S-Video now. But I hate the way it looks.
Whenever I try the force boot trick, it says "Mode not supported" on my TV"

ballzdeepx · Feb 24, 2016

That is bizarre then. I wonder if the cable or DC is going bad in some way and it's not switching over. You could try a different mode on your TV like game or movie but I doubt that would be it.

johhnnyD14 · Feb 24, 2016

ballzdeepx said:
That is bizarre then. I wonder if the cable or DC is going bad in some way and it's not switching over. You could try a different mode on your TV like game or movie but I doubt that would be it.

I'll give Game mode a shot

EDIT: Scratch that. My TV doesn't support Game
mode through VGA

ballzdeepx · Feb 24, 2016

Do you have a different pc monitor or something to test with?
I'm guessing the VGA port forces your tv into PC mode.

johhnnyD14 · Feb 24, 2016

ballzdeepx said:
Do you have a different pc monitor or something to test with?
I'm guessing the VGA port forces your tv into PC mode.

Pretty much, I don't have any other choice on that TV. I have a monitor somewhere in my attic I could try out, but the only reason I don't use it is because it doesn't have any speakers.

johhnnyD14 · Feb 24, 2016

Update: Tried to use a PC monitor. It gives me the same issue, even when I try the force boot.

ballzdeepx · Feb 24, 2016

It's either gotta be your VGA cable/ Box (not sure which you're using)
or your DC.

You could try an iso rip to see if it's the game too.

zaneiken · Feb 25, 2016

Disc rot? Quite a common occurrence with Dreamcast discs.

johhnnyD14 · Feb 25, 2016

ballzdeepx said:
It's either gotta be your VGA cable/ Box (not sure which you're using)
or your DC.

You could try an iso rip to see if it's the game too.

It is just that one game, since all the other ones I have seem to work fine.

zaneiken said:
Disc rot? Quite a common occurrence with Dreamcast discs.

I'm now noticing a lot of scratches on the disc. I'm not sure about disc rot though.

kahel · Feb 25, 2016

If you look at the VGA compatibility list http://www.epforums.org/showthread.php?56169-Dreamcast-VGA-Compatability-list-amp-Guide

Garou is not in the list but other SNK titles that are on the list do not support VGA output even with patching or disc swap. So i would assume it the same for Garou.

It not your disc , it just that VGA is not supported for that game.

kahel · Feb 25, 2016

nm , i just saw it Fatal Fury : Mark of the wolves , my mistake , the NTSC version should work.

johhnnyD14 · Feb 25, 2016

kahel said:
nm , i just saw it Fatal Fury : Mark of the wolves , my mistake , the NTSC version should work.

I own the NTSC version, and even though it worked perfectly before, it refuses to now.

jbeedham · Mar 1, 2016

I own this game for Dreamcast. Not sure if I can help though as I think the Dreamcast requires a special VGA cable for that kind of connection. I use AV.

jbeedham · Mar 1, 2016

Disc rot? Have you guys encountered this?

I'm gonna have to double check my discs but I believe the last time I checked them they all worked fine and that was a few months back. I've had most of these games over 10 years.

NGCDFreak · Mar 2, 2016

zaneiken said:
Disc rot? Quite a common occurrence with Dreamcast discs.

Maybe that's the reason my copy of Last Blade 2 doesn't work.

johhnnyD14 · Mar 3, 2016

NGCDFreak said:
Maybe that's the reason my copy of Last Blade 2 doesn't work.

LB2 for Dreamcast wont work through VGA no matter what trick you try, except for maybe a boot disc. I tried burning a Code Breakers disc but since my computer is being all pissy it wont let me transfer any files properly.

chinitosoccer · Mar 11, 2016

Its not disc rot or the "type of VGA cable", Garou MOTW does not work over VGA.

johhnnyD14 · Mar 12, 2016

chinitosoccer said:
Its not disc rot or the "type of VGA cable", Garou MOTW does not work over VGA.

I'm 100% aware of that, but I never once had an issue with it before. It worked perfectly fine but then it just stopped.

kahel · Mar 15, 2016

chinitosoccer said:
Its not disc rot or the "type of VGA cable", Garou MOTW does not work over VGA.

To put this to rest ... MOTW does work in VGA on the Dreamcast

Here you can see it in 480p thru my VGA cable.

johhnnyD14 · Mar 17, 2016

kahel said:
To put this to rest ... MOTW does work in VGA on the Dreamcast

Here you can see it in 480p thru my VGA cable.

View attachment 33976

Are you just using a vanilla DC, no mods or anything?

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