Kizuna Encounter English

I was looking on the price guide and it said that there is only one known english copy of Kizuna. Is this the same game that Shawn was selling about 6 months back? I remember some really expensive game that he sold in the store but I forgot what it was.

I believe Shawn sold a US Metal Slug 1 for about $1500. I've never seen him sell a US Kizuna.

Well,telling ther eis just 1 known copy is bullshit,becaus i already sold 3 myself...
i sold 1 in france,1 to Larry bassin ( who still has it ) and 1 to shawn ( who still has it )
i know simone,in italy,who has 1 too...that makes already 4 in existence ( and 3 of them were mine )...then,a minimum of 4 <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

Only 4, so there are 996 out there to be counted. I wonder who else has one? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

The price guide does not state that only one copy of US Kizuna exists. It states that there is only one “known” copy of US Kizuna. Someone could buy and sell the same copy of US Kizuna 3x over a period of years, could they not? How does this prove that there is more than one known copy? Isn’t it possible to buy that same copy several years later? Has anyone owned more than one copy of US Kizuna at the very same time? You would have more luck collecting copies of the Monalisa.

My statement that there is only one known copy of US Kizuna is based on hard facts. I am offering $200 for an authentic & complete picture of US Kizuna Encounter. However, just making a cover using Photoshop will not suffice. For verification I will ask you to confirm a line of text from a page of the US Kizuna manual. Also, pictures of the inside of the manual would be acceptable as well.

Adol, we spoke on ICQ for quite a while and I told you over and over than Simone of Italy still seeks US Kizuna. He has never owned a copy. You also said the Euro Aero Fighters 3 exists. As much as I want to believe you, I cannot confirm its existence on faith alone. I offered $300 for the AeroF3 picture for over month, zero proof surfaced. Regardless, if he or anyone else is willing to provide proof of ownership for US Kizuna, I will gladly provide $200 for their time. This offer will be active for the next 72 hours (3 days). Shouldn’t take any longer than 3 days to take a pic and open your manual. Until the existence of another copy surfaces, there remains only one known copy of US Kizuna.

I would love to own a copy of US Kizuna not only is it rare but Shawn is offering 200 for just proof.

It's more reasonable to think that the only know copy is actually a bootleg cart rather than a 1 copy SNKUSA release.

...or a proto artwork for a cancelled USA release

To get technical, I seriously doubt SNK-USA ever released Kizuna Encounter. We say US Kizuna because it’s shorter than saying Euro Kizuna. However, we do believe that a European branch of SNK did a very limited run of an English version of Kizuna.

Now, to speculate that someone made a 1 bootleg home cart run of Kizuna is doubtful. For one, this copy would have been made years ago, since it was May ’99 when I originally purchased it. The online neo market was not as big as it is now, in fact games like US (Euro) Double Dragon were just beginning to surface in the US. Prices were much lower back then, Metal Slug sold for $600 in either version.

Another, if you saw the insert and the manual & cart sticker of the authentic English Kizuna, your doubts would cease. Every component of English Kizuna matches SNK standards, good and bad. Has typo’s like Super Tage Battle, and the manual… 30 pages and includes the orange epilepsy warning card. To bootleg a full scale US Kizuna and only make one copy, how profitable is that? Considering I originally paid $550, imagine what the previous buyer paid.

$200 offer for a US Kizuna pic is in effect.

I am not sure but I think Shawns copy of Kizuna is the one I traded (unfortunately)
with Adol a few years ago. The cart was
purchased from the official european SNK
distributor MARO GmbH in Germany. I doubt
they ever sold suspicious carts, but only
officially produced SNK products.

Velimir

The one i got from velimir,like the 2 other ones i got ( i repeat,i got THREE different Kizuna Encounter European Home Carts, whatever other ppl can say ),are pure original carts...from snk...now,i have no idea how many were produced..
i sold 2 of them in usa ( to shawn,and to anoter person ) and 1 in france..
i never refound them until now...

Originally posted by Shawn:
<STRONG>The price guide does not state that only one copy of US Kizuna exists. It states that there is only one “known” copy of US Kizuna. Someone could buy and sell the same copy of US Kizuna 3x over a period of years, could they not? How does this prove that there is more than one known copy? Isn’t it possible to buy that same copy several years later? Has anyone owned more than one copy of US Kizuna at the very same time? You would have more luck collecting copies of the Monalisa.

My statement that there is only one known copy of US Kizuna is based on hard facts. I am offering $200 for an authentic & complete picture of US Kizuna Encounter. However, just making a cover using Photoshop will not suffice. For verification I will ask you to confirm a line of text from a page of the US Kizuna manual. Also, pictures of the inside of the manual would be acceptable as well.

Adol, we spoke on ICQ for quite a while and I told you over and over than Simone of Italy still seeks US Kizuna. He has never owned a copy. You also said the Euro Aero Fighters 3 exists. As much as I want to believe you, I cannot confirm its existence on faith alone. I offered $300 for the AeroF3 picture for over month, zero proof surfaced. Regardless, if he or anyone else is willing to provide proof of ownership for US Kizuna, I will gladly provide $200 for their time. This offer will be active for the next 72 hours (3 days). Shouldn’t take any longer than 3 days to take a pic and open your manual. Until the existence of another copy surfaces, there remains only one known copy of US Kizuna.</STRONG>

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I am going by exactly what you said, and I am going to grab me 200 you brought this on yourself, anyhow here it is.!

"I am offering $200 for an authentic & complete picture of US Kizuna Encounter. However, just making a cover using Photoshop will not suffice. For verification I will ask you to confirm a line of text from a page of the US Kizuna manual. Also, pictures of the inside of the manual would be acceptable as well."



I am confirming on the manual (front page, which is a page) it says the words "SNK" it also says "Kizuna Encounter", I have done what you said I got a complete picture one way or another.
Is the 200 going to be a MO or store credit? I am cool with either one.
[ June 21, 2001: Message edited by: Lord Wolfgang Krauser ]

[ June 21, 2001: Message edited by: Lord Wolfgang Krauser ]

And btw thats proof I own the picture just what you said !

Well, is LWK's pic proof?? I would say so. Looks like that game to me. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

Yep I proved it.
The omega rare Kizuna Encounter US home cart, followed the specific directions, I know full well that Shawn is going to come through, since I proved it.
Hes a reliable guy.

velimir....way hey....

adol...shawn....everybody...

hello again !!

nice to be back...

about Kizuna us....

i just wanted to say this

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Shawn you going to respond?

Go to page 8, quote the first line of the 2nd paragraph.

Nah.
I rather be a pain.

Originally posted by Shawn:
<STRONG>To get technical, I seriously doubt SNK-USA ever released Kizuna Encounter. We say US Kizuna because it’s shorter than saying Euro Kizuna. However, we do believe that a European branch of SNK did a very limited run of an English version of Kizuna.

Now, to speculate that someone made a 1 bootleg home cart run of Kizuna is doubtful. For one, this copy would have been made years ago, since it was May ’99 when I originally purchased it. The online neo market was not as big as it is now, in fact games like US (Euro) Double Dragon were just beginning to surface in the US. Prices were much lower back then, Metal Slug sold for $600 in either version.

Another, if you saw the insert and the manual & cart sticker of the authentic English Kizuna, your doubts would cease. Every component of English Kizuna matches SNK standards, good and bad. Has typo’s like Super Tage Battle, and the manual… 30 pages and includes the orange epilepsy warning card. To bootleg a full scale US Kizuna and only make one copy, how profitable is that? Considering I originally paid $550, imagine what the previous buyer paid.

$200 offer for a US Kizuna pic is in effect.</STRONG>

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To get technical, I seriously doubt SNK-USA ever released Kizuna Encounter. We say US Kizuna because it’s shorter than saying Euro Kizuna. However, we do believe that a European branch of SNK did a very limited run of an English version of Kizuna.


My guarantee is there are more then 1.
I dont say US Kizuna because its shorter, I say it because thats what people have to come to believe it is.
Euro is only two letters away, nobody is that lazy. Another opinion was there multiple language manuals?

Another, if you saw the insert and the manual & cart sticker of the authentic English Kizuna, your doubts would cease. Every component of English Kizuna matches SNK standards, good and bad. Has typo’s like Super Tage Battle, and the manual… 30 pages and includes the orange epilepsy warning card. To bootleg a full scale US Kizuna and only make one copy, how profitable is that? Considering I originally paid $550, imagine what the previous buyer paid.


I would love to see this oprange epilepsy card, I have seen only one myself and it was yellow, they are not a "real rare find" but I have not yet seen and orange one, Shawn can you give a scan of it??


Now, to speculate that someone made a 1 bootleg home cart run of Kizuna is doubtful. For one, this copy would have been made years ago, since it was May ’99 when I originally purchased it. The online neo market was not as big as it is now, in fact games like US (Euro) Double Dragon were just beginning to surface in the US. Prices were much lower back then, Metal Slug sold for $600 in either version.

The neo scene prices will drop in a few years, its just a fad that wont last forever.
The thing is that there are way more Kizuna's than meets the eye, and you said its a SNK make, which I agree with the quality reaks of SNK.
The run must be bigger then meets the eye, I am guessing a load of stock got lost in a warehouse.
Maybe SNK can give us a run number and a new list could be started for games, which explains how big the run is. (on every game)
Besides Shawn, you could easily get ahold of run information since its documented, just add the question to your return email to "SNK".
My two cents.

Sufficient proof has surfaced for a second copy of English Kizuna! The owner is a member of our boards, but has requested to remain anonymous. Are there any other known copies? 3 hours left to qualify for the $200 finders fee.

I even wonder how there could be an english kizuna, or any other game by Alpha or ADK for that matter. Alpha and ADK don't have US offices, do they? I suppose SNK can distribute their games...

Alpha and ADK don't have US offices, do they?

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There doesn't have to be a US office.
European Distributers like SNK in Geremany for instance, did not have to deal with the US office at all.
The european branches did release English SNK
packaging, for games that never arrived in the US.
SNK-USA wasn't doing us fans many favors back then, & they passed on many games that should have been released here.
Like Blazing Star dammit, that would have been nice.

Originally posted by nick_th_fury:
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There doesn't have to be a US office.
European Distributers like SNK in Geremany for instance, did not have to deal with the US office at all.
The european branches did release English SNK
packaging, for games that never arrived in the US.
SNK-USA wasn't doing us fans many favors back then, & they passed on many games that should have been released here.
Like Blazing Star dammit, that would have been nice.</STRONG>

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Geremany? <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">
BTW nice sig there, so true, so damn true....

Well , I have to put in my 2 cents here on what a few of you said about there only being under a single digit number of copies. I would not be the slightest bit profitable for snk to only make a run such as this. I would have to say there would be at least 500 of them or more. The thing is, now, at this point, who is gonna tell you they have one? Not me if I did. Because I would want the hype to build to its fullest extent. This is now tremendously raising the value of this cartridge as you see. And when you dish out your 2 and a half grand or more for it.......feel your ass baby ,because its flamin' sky high!! Thus is just a theory , but a practical one if you think about it.
I cannot justify anything over 1500.00 for this, only because I would want to complete the fighter collection that i have. And only a few , and I mean a very small few , will I pay over 1000.00 for. But hey , thats me. You might want it more.

Gary.