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KahluaFlash said:

Were we watching the same fight? Tito looked awful. I mean, yeah, Bonnar looked like ass, too, but it didn't make anything Tito did look solid. That was the most cringe-worthy display of standup I've ever seen. Just wild, flailing arms flying with no discernible sense of direction and even less power put behind them (from both guys). Both guys were smacking each other in the face with closed fists and there was just no effect. I'm amazed that professional light-heavyweight fighters can punch each other in the face, repeatedly, with small gloves, and not knock the other guy out (or at the very least, "rock" them). That fight was the definition of pillow-fists.

It was even more embarrassing to see how easily Tito's takedowns were stuffed, from Bonnar, of all people. I had to turn it off when the commentators said "this fight lived up to the hype."

and lol @ Melvin. Fuck, that dude could've been great.

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I did give Tito too much credit, you're right- he looked better than Bonnar, but that's not saying much at all. He looked okay for a senior citizen is all, pretty much. Bonnar looked so bad, he would have made pretty much anyone look good, what with that awful cardio and those pillow fists.

Pretty damn good show tomorrow night, for the first time in a while:
Hendricks vs. Lawler, Welterweight Championship
Pettis vs. Melendez, Lightweight Championship
Browne vs. Schaub
Duffee vs. Hamilton
Ferguson vs. Trujillo
Faber vs. Rivera

That's a good set of fights right there. Hendricks/Lawler alone should be really good, and seeing Pettis finally defend the belt should be fun. Faber ought to run through Rivera, but he's always fun to watch fight, even as he's gotten older. And how Browne doesn't KO Schaub, hell, you know that's happening.

The two title fights should be pretty solid. I think a lot of analysts are giving Lawler too much of a chance against Hendricks. Lawler has a ton of power, sure, but Matt Brown really isn't all that great, so I don't really give a shit that Lawler beat him (go beat Rory McDonald and I'll care). Hendricks just has so many more ways to win (or, shall we say "paths to victory"). I'd like to see Lawler win, but I'll be at least mildly surprised if he does. Now, Rory on the other hand- he could handle Hendricks, I think.

And in the other title fight, I like Pettis to retain, but that's sort of hard to call since the guy has fought so little. He's ultra-talented and his striking is ridiculous, but at the same time, Gil seems like he could blanket him on the mat or the cage like Guida did and try to grind out a decision. So, yeah, I just barely like Pettis there.

Anyway, it's a hell of a UFC PPV for the first time in some time. Fuck yeah.

Well, damn, Hell of a showing by Pettis. Lawler came to fight, too. I had Hendricks winning the fight, but I could see scoring it 48-47 for Lawler (and I damn sure am happy that he won). Can't wait to see him fight Rory. How in the hell a judge scored four rounds for Lawler, though... When the last scorecard was 49-46, I went, oh, Hendricks retained, and then went WHAT?!

Pettis is insanely good. Um, Khabib next I guess, followed by Cowboy for the winner, assuming he beats Jury?

Browne continues to pummel anyone other than dos Santos, Werdum, or Velasquez.

Phil Brooks! Holy Hell! That's just silly, really. It'll be fun, but silly. The only real options are to feed him fodder in hopes that he can hit a takedown and a sub, because anyone with any striking at all is going to knock him out really damn quickly at 185. I mean hell, I can't really imagine him competing with too many guys with any name value at 170. It'll be interesting to watch, but at the same time, it'll be sort of a bummer to see him get massacred. Who knows, maybe he'll shock me and get a sub or two. Big news, at least- they freaking were talking about it on SportsCenter.

Pretty good show, overall. Lawler's end surge there would have killed some fighters, Jesus.

edit: Bloody Elbow is arguing for, and they're probably right in light of the judging, that there pretty much has to be Hendricks/Lawler 3. Especially considering that the UFC didn't have Rory come in the cage after the fight, that would seem to be a pretty good indicator that Dana wants to do another rematch instead.

They're also pointing out that CM Punk is already the biggest name/biggest draw in the UFC. Just like that. That's freaking crazy. Dude was a damn popular pro wrestler. And he showed, again tonight, that he can still talk really well and present himself really well. His fight fight will probably be a co-main, even though it'll be against an un-ranked opponent (that's my reasoning, not theirs), and the show could hit 800K or more. So yeah, that's a hell of a signing I suppose.

Yeah I thought johnny won the fight but It did look like he coasted in that last round and just held onto the leg so maybe that weighed in the judges factoring? that being said that retard that scored 49-46 for Lawler should be shot what a joke in no world did Lawler win 4 rounds he got smashed in rounds 2&3 so that's just plain incompetence. Once again we are reminded of just how incompetent the judges are in the Nevada state athletic commission.

I don't look forward to the upcoming year where Hendricks is still telling us he beat GSP and he was robbed by Lawler

If there is anyone who should have taken this "wake your bitch ass up" call to heart it's Hendricks

Main Event:
Hendricks and Lawler both looked a bit off. I had Hendricks winning a close yet underwhelming 48-47 decision. Robbie wasn't letting his hands go for a majority of the fight and instead either played patty cake with Johnny or was pushed up against the cage. He did do a really got job of fending off the takedowns, considering how good a wrestler he was facing. Lawler definitely did more damage overall, but he just didn't land enough shots during those early/middle rounds. I have to assume the threat of the takedown had him second guessing stepping foreword and throwing combinations. Hendricks was landing some very nice punch kick combos but seemed to gas out in the 4th/5th and really just resorted to trying to push Lawler against the cage hoping to pull him down. Not really excited to see an instant 3rd match. Let each guy fight a different opponent first. Lawler can take on McDonald for the title. Hendricks can take on Lombard or Woodley. Personally I would like to see Lombard vs Hendricks.

Co-main:
Pettis is just one talented motherfucker. Finding ways to finish guys that you just don't put away. He is just so damn slick. He was getting smothered but still managed to rock Melendez with some very crisp counter shots which stunned Melendez enough to give up that choke. Assuming he can stay healthy he is going to be very tough to take the belt from.

Prelims co-main:
Mario Yamasaki fucking sucks plain and simple. Missing that horrible eye gouge, what the hell was he watching during the fight? Guaranteed Big John would not have fucked that call up. Not the first gaff he has made and definitely won't be the last.

For whatever reason, I have lost total interest in MMA for the past 6 months or so.

Ever since the Rhonda Rousey/Meisha Tate ultimate fighter.

Rousey turned me off to it I think, her poor attitude is just sickening.

Dana was apparently very noncommittal regarding a potential rematch "that's not a bad idea" isn't the same as "yes, we're doing it."

I would guess there won't be one. I had forgotten that Rory had already been promised a title shot, though that hasn't meant much in the past, granted.

Rory/Robbie is a better fight, anyway. And then they can do Hendricks/Woodley, and if Hendricks wins in convincing fashion, he'll be deserving of either a trilogy with Lawler or the first shot at Rory (though that would be a tight matchup, very similar styles, big wrestlers with power, I think I'd take Hendricks over Woodley but it would be close).

And yeah, Hendricks' stall game really did hurt him. Not a convincing way to win rounds or earn a rematch, though there's still no way Lawler won four rounds.

BladeDancer314 said:

For whatever reason, I have lost total interest in MMA for the past 6 months or so.

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i too lost interest though i think it was because there were so many and a lot of the cards looked good but ended up being crappy fights.

With that being said this weekends fox fight card looks stacked so ill bite.

oh the whole cm punk thing is interesting hope he does well though its hard to see how. Not a fan of wrestling but his story was entertaining.

Dana is on record as stating that Phil Brooks (Dana even calls him CM Punk, I'll be curious to see what they call him when he fights, I assume it will be Phil "CM Punk" Brooks) will get someone with a record of "1-0, or 1-1, or maybe 2-0." So he'll get another newbie, basically. Which is, at this point, never happens in the UFC, and only ever happened in the recent past due to TUF winners like Amir Sodallah and one or two others winning the show with little to no pro experience (and then the rule got changed to not allow for anyone on TUF with fewer than a set number of pro fights depending on age).

Will be interesting to see who gets the golden ticket to fight him- could be someone else with a name who wants to get into fighting, I might think, but it also seems like you don't really want him to lose, given that it's almost a lock he's getting PPV points and a high purse.

At least guys like Patrick Cote can stop screaming on twitter about I want the fight gimme the fight OF COURSE YOU WANT TO FIGHT THE GUY YOU'D KILL HIM IN 10 SECONDS DUMBASS.

I'm really regretting not catching this fight tonight, it's gonna be a good one!

Fucking Bones....
Is it the Greg Jackson training or his champ status that makes him fight so shittily these days?

Fucking guy has turned into another GSP: A tactician, neutralizing anyything that resembles a fight and leaves the rest up to the judges.

No finishes at all last night...the UFC has gone full-on Mayweather but without the decent pay.

Pretty much. The old Jones would've rained down elbows on his face when he had him on his back. Now he just half-ass attempts a guillotine and if he doesn't get it in two seconds he gives up and just lays on them. Much like GSP, he's now worried about his "legacy" and that turns into boring fights that just happen to have a W next to them.

Poonman said:

Fucking Bones....
Is it the Greg Jackson training or his champ status that makes him fight so shittily these days?

Fucking guy has turned into another GSP: A tactician adept in the ways of neutralizing everything that makes a fight interesting and leaves the rest up to the judges.

No finishes at all last night...the UFC has gone full-on Mayweather but without the decent pay.

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I agree, it's all about points now vs. trying to knock a opponent out. Ufc doesn't even interest me anymore. Only reason I ordered the fight last night was because I had some friends over and one of them is big ufc fan. What a waste of 60 bucks.

SonGohan said:

Pretty much. The old Jones would've rained down elbows on his face when he had him on his back. Now he just half-ass attempts a guillotine and if he doesn't get it in two seconds he gives up and just lays on them. Much like GSP, he's now worried about his "legacy" and that turns into boring fights that just happen to have a W next to them.

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Comparing gsp/bones to each other might be too "flattering".

I think they are more like John Fitch these days....and the only "legacy" they are going to leave behind is a highlight reel that looks like a Kama Sutra how-to video for gay guys.

RAZO said:

What a waste of 60 bucks.

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My heart goes out to you.
Next time your friend is over, just throw on some gay porn, play some random Joe Rogan commentary in the background and tell him it's the UFC; he won't know the difference.

Poonman said:

My heart goes out to you.
Next time your friend is over, just throw on some gay porn, play some random Joe Rogan commentary in the background and tell him it's the UFC; he won't know the difference.

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I am really not impressed with the announced price increase for all PPVs. I'm not surprised, I suppose, but really, when you already have fans that aren't happy with the product, the solution that you come up with is to gouge them more?

Kinda hoping that Rumble beats Gus so that someone new gets a shot at Jones. When I rewatched the first Gus/Jones fight it wasn't really all that close- Gus gave him his toughest matchup, but he didn't really give him all that tough of a fight. Dude really has a stranglehold on the division.

Re: Greg Jackson- he does indeed teach gameplanning super extensively (read about him at length and it shows), and my thinking is that GSP and Jones are the most talented and smartest fighters he's coached, which makes them the most able to implement those gameplans. Thus, they get boring, since they can follow a gameplan to a freaking T, like no one else can (outside of maybe, I dunno, Anderson Silva, Fedor in his prime, DJ, maybe Cruz).

No one is going to beat him until he slows way down like Fedor or gets injured like Anderson.

Holy shit John Jones is going to rehab for a positive cocaine test.

"Rumors of Jones' use of the drug have been swirling for a while now."

Fuck me, missed that.

I wonder if he'll get stripped. Kind of think he will, though it's hard to say for sure. Maybe just Rumble/Gus for the interim title with a quick trigger on stripping him if anything at all heads (further) south?

edit again: no, they're standing behind him. I guess you do that for drug problems as long as they aren't PEDs. If MJ can get a win turned to a ND, though, cocaine sure should.

From the way Dana is acting he ain't getting stripped, sad that to Dana and the commission coke is nothing to flip out over unlike weed and Nick Diaz

So fellas, what are your thoughts on Sundays main event?

Conor MacGreggor just has to clobber an old, washed up Dennis Siver for a shot at Aldo?

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For me this kinda calls the legitimacy of the UFC into question, the matchup against Siver is ridiculous and the shot at Aldo is obviously because Dana wants Joses [unmarketable] brazilian ass removed from the top spot....and he believes MacGreggor is the man to do it.

As a promotion AND a sport, I think UFC is a cross between boxing and WWE wrasslin.
It borrows the appeal of WWE with good ol Murkan boys who are either champs (or solid contenders) and mixes it with the legitimacy of boxing.

Boxing on the other hand, continues to lose out to the UFC with only 3 big names in the sport: 1 is a black guy, the other is filipino, and the last one is Ukrainian....and nobody in America cares to watch any of that shit...unless its to witness mayweathers first loss or something.

That fucking gif resets my laugh button every time.

Srsly though....as an aspiring drug addict, JBJ is a huge inspiration to me.

Poonman said:

So fellas, what are your thoughts on Sundays main event?

Conor MacGreggor just has to clobber an old, washed up Dennis Siver for a shot at Aldo?

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For me this kinda calls the legitimacy of the UFC into question, the matchup against Siver is ridiculous and the shot at Aldo is obviously because Dana wants Joses [unmarketable] brazilian ass removed from the top spot....and he believes MacGreggor is the man to do it.

As a promotion AND a sport, I think UFC is a cross between boxing and WWE wrasslin.
It borrows the appeal of WWE with good ol Murkan boys who are either champs (or solid contenders) and mixes it with the legitimacy of boxing.

Boxing on the other hand, continues to lose out to the UFC with only 3 big names in the sport: 1 is a black guy, the other is filipino, and the last one is Ukrainian....and nobody in America cares to watch any of that shit...unless its to witness mayweathers first loss or something.

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a lot of what you say makes sense i agree that fights for the title are usually popularity contests and not who actually deserves the title but who can bring the biggest draw. with that said how fucking funny would it be if siver pulls off a miracle and beats mcgregor I will be as shocked as when matt serra beat up on GSP.

forgot to mention also that even if mcgregor beats siver i dont think there is any way he beats aldo that dude is just too good

Poonman said:

That fucking gif resets my laugh button every time.

Srsly though....as an aspiring drug addict, JBJ is a huge inspiration to me.

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I love JBJ more now that I have a small glimpse as to how big of a trainwreck he really is. Drugs, DUIs, wrecking Bentlys, hiding under a cage to avoid drug tests, having a child out of wedlock, etc. That bigass Philippians tattoo acts more like a scarlet letter these days.

And is it just me, or is Conor McGregor really being pushed down our throats? The guy is pretty good, but he's far from the best, and Lorenzo calling him the Irish Muhammad Ali kind of gives me douche chills. I know they're desperate for marketable talent, but give the guy some time to fucking grow.