David Garrett is Jason Young - Relative of Ray Young

Shawn said:

Ya, wow! I'm surprised that all of that wasn't revealed ages ago, but I understand the need to keep certain information confidential (for the sake of being professional). This is what happens when you back someone into a corner. Maybe now TonK will consider refunding his cut to chamane. I sent TonK chamane's PayPal address (TonK did ask for it publicly once before), and I'm sure that chamane will accept installments.

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DavidG said:

What only a few people know is that I was asked how much I wanted for the game, and my answer was $8000. Mike told me he could sell each one for $30,000+. Of course I had no problems with that number...

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Vectorman0 said:

Does anyone know if DavidG went into this with the intention of buying snap-lock cases, or did that come about after he made (a likely) triple what he was expecting? If it's the former, he should not have had to sell his converters to pay back chamame.

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brentsg said:

Why would Mike need to refund anyone? It would seem that you are taking David's post at face value, so then the carts are real.

Or are you just going to cherry pick the bits and pieces you choose to believe?

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DavidG said:

Let me get right to the point. Jason Young and David Garrett are two different people (and yes I am aware I just spoke of myself in the 3rd person) and I am not Jason, Ray, Livu, General Hanzo and a patridge in a pear tree.

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Shawn said:

Are you being serious? Did I say anything about the carts being real? I'd still love for them to be proven real, which is in the best interest of everyone, and I think I've said that publicly at least a dozen times by now.

DGE refunded chamane in full for his portion of the proceeds through terms agreed upon by both DGE and chamane. TonK claims that he had no connection to this transaction, that he was a victim, should keep his profits, and shouldn't be responsible for something that he had nothing to do with. If anyone wants a refund for JGP AES, they return it to the NeoStore and they get their FULL refund from the NeoStore. It's that simple. How is TonK immune to that responsibility?

Meh, this really isn't my responsibility to see that TonK refunds his customer(s). I've tried to stay out of the forums' market dealings, but this transaction was in the spotlight, and so I stepped in.

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DavidG said:

I found your post in the past few days to be quite amusing, Mike.

Let me get right to the point. Jason Young and David Garrett are two different people (and yes I am aware I just spoke of myself in the 3rd person) and I am not Jason, Ray, Livu, General Hanzo and a patridge in a pear tree. Also, I didn’t make Aero Fighters 3 or Power Spikes 2. What I have said about them have been the truth and neither Jason, Ray, !Arcade! nor myself/DGE had any hand in the games creation. This has been proven already.

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You can take any !Arcade! release and when compared to another cart they made, they match. It’s been checked many times over and AF3/PS2 do not match anything !Arcade! has ever done. My work (being the 161 multicart and the converter) has also been compared to AF3 and PS2 and they do not even come close.

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Let’s go over a few things the community may or may not know.

Firstly, Mike knew from day one that there were more than 3 Aero Fighter 3’s and at no time was 3 ever the limit. Mike, being Mike, ended up digging a hole for himself by saying only 3 copies were available.

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Secondly, Mike also went out of his way to keep everyone on a very short leash in an attempt to keep total control over the buyers... and his cut of course!

For the first sale, I offered to have the buyer and Mike meet in Toronto (giving the buyer all the time he wanted to check out the game). However, Mike vehemently turned this down because he wanted total control of every present and future transactions and of course, Mike wanted the spot light (what’s new?).

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When Mike first got his hands on AF3 he called me and said he didn’t like what he saw. Mike has purposely withheld the fact that I asked him to return the game to me and it goes back to the box. Mike refused to return the game and instead send it to John hoping for a more positive second opinion.

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What only a few people know is that I was asked how much I wanted for the game, and my answer was $8000. Mike told me he could sell each one for $30,000+. Of course I had no problems with that number... if Mike believed he could do so, then why not leave everything in his hands

Mike is very secretive about the fact that, in his quest to keep total control over everyone, he insisted that all monies pass through his hands. This means that the buyers pay Mike the entire amount and he simply took his cut... or... they paid his cut directly to him. This means that he is 100% on the hook for his entire cut as, at no given moment in time, did I handle Mike’s payment. The fact remains that there isn’t a court of law that will let this piece of information slide. If this should ever go to a court of law... then, Mike, You are 100% “liable”.

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Also, whenever the buyers paid Mike the total lump sum for a sale, he would not only take his agreed percentage but would nickel and dime me to death with imaginary fees. Oh! and let’s not forget the many times he would call crying for a bonus to “help him sleep at night”. Did you ever buy that Mac Book Pro you said you wanted last time you stuck me for an additional $2,000 Mike?

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Let me say this again... If this goes to court, Mike, and I show exactly how much money you really sent my way, then believe, you’re on the hook for every cent you took. Every cent Mike...even the hundreds you took for your “Steak Dinners”.

While we’re talking about facts, lets not forget that Mike talks a good game online. Everything went awry, where did he go? Mike all but disappeared. There is no need to even try and defend this one, Mike ol buddy, the proof is in the pudding.

Thirdly, Mike, You claim to be close friends with the buyers. The phone calls I had with them after you ran and hid under your bed says otherwise. Besides, if you were a true friend then you shouldn’t have a problem giving back everything you took from your “friends”. Let get this straight, You’re not a victim. Never have and will never be.

I took quite some time and worked out why you do what you do Mike. See, Mike here needs to be part of this community. Here on neo-geo.com he is (was) a big shot, a real somebody. Outside in the real world he’s a nobody, so, when the neo door was closed on him, he just couldn’t take it and resorted to pulling every stop.

This issue is between myself and the buyers... as well as Mike. If any buyer has a problem or concern they can reach me using the same method that has been made available to them from the beginning.

Oh! and Mike, just because you think you’re so clever. .. I’ll let you know that once John pulled that stunt with AF3 (you know what stunt I’m referring to) I proceeded to recorded all future conversations... and I just so happen to have one recording where I specifically informed you that I would be recording my calls going forward, and your exact response was: “That’s a good idea” (making my evidence admissible in a court of law... bet you forgot about that one.. lol. )

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This will be my last post on these forums as I refuse to partake of this debacle. Going forward, I will only be communicating directly to the buyers.

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DavidG said:

Let me say this again... If this goes to court, Mike, and I show exactly how much money you really sent my way, then believe, you’re on the hook for every cent you took. Every cent Mike...even the hundreds you took for your “Steak Dinners”.

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Xander Crews said:

So there's no chance you can prove the games are legitimate...

I have never seen someone shoot themselve in the ass like that.

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brentsg said:

It seemed to me that you were drinking the Kool-Aid after DavidG made his lengthy BS post. Obviously the bit about the carts is sarcasm, but it appeared as if you bought the rest of his e-mail, while being willing to discount his claim that he didn't fabricate the carts.

And seriously, DavidG is your business partner and you have a financial interest in his continued ability to kick out goods for the Neo Store. You are anything but an unbiased party here.

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DavidG said:

What only a few people know is that I was asked how much I wanted for the game, and my answer was $8000. Mike told me he could sell each one for $30,000+. Of course I had no problems with that number... if Mike believed he could do so, then why not leave everything in his hands?

Mike is very secretive about the fact that, in his quest to keep total control over everyone, he insisted that all monies pass through his hands. This means that the buyers pay Mike the entire amount and he simply took his cut... or... they paid his cut directly to him. This means that he is 100% on the hook for his entire cut as, at no given moment in time, did I handle Mike’s payment.

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TonK said:

Lies

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Kpj said:

(Staying objective/factual): David's statement is true as Tonk stated these exact prices to me (over the phone). He (Tonk) also told me that David G was going to ask $700 for each copy of 'unmolested' KOF 2000 US AES but on a later phone call, the price magically rose to $3K or $4K.

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lantus360 said:

lol after 2 days lurking this thread thats the best cover story you could come up with?

You and Jason must have matching cars and houses

Pretty hard to take you on your word when you have been caught in lie after lie. Still dont know who Liviu Nita is?

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broken said:

I also find it hard to believe that not only are he and Jason not the same person, but within hours of all this being discovered both Jason and his wife's Facebook and other social media profiles get deleted.



Coincidence, apparently.

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Shawn said:

But hey, if there’s a certain brand of tuna that has been known to use dolphin meat and that brand of tuna is sold at your local grocery store, you have the right to never shop that grocery store again. Or, you could simply choose not to buy that particular brand of tuna, i.e., skip JGP AES, don't buy Daedalus buy Super MVS Converter II instead, et cetera.

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