aaronjmill
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Got these guys for free.99 today. Dirtiest PVMs I've ever owned.
CRT Fetish Thread
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Got these guys for free.99 today. Dirtiest PVMs I've ever owned.
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aha2940
AH, A, COLUMBIAN!,
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Any free PVM is a good PVM, even if dirty. They work fine, I presume? would be nice to see a neo connected to the small one.
Wachenroder
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Thanks man i appreciate it. I'll get one of those.
Okay one more question. ideally id like to hook it up to my bandridge SCART swtich. is there a particular VGA to SCART cable i can use for this? also with the TORO box, through some of my research, they make it sound like i can get 480p through the SCART out. Does that sound right?
Anyway I mean at this point i'll probably just buy some cables and see what happens but id prefer not to waste anything if at all possible.
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Yeah, the Toro can also output 31 khz over scart. If you've already got scart to BNC set up that may be a better option for you, where as the cable I posted would be the simplest way of connecting directly to the monitor. I don't see any reason why the Bandridge couldn't be used, it's a dumb switch that just passes a signal, I wouldn't think that it cares if a signal is 15 or 31 khz.
Wachenroder
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Gonna do an actual in depth post this time instead of the normal CRT porn shots with the monitor I got last night. Warning lots of pictures just because I hate people on dial up (Sorry SNKorSWM).
Model: Panasonic BT-H1390YN
Specifications:
User Manual: Found Here
Review:
The BT-H1390YN is one of the best RGB monitors I have ever had in my possession. At 750 lines this little 13 inch monitor boasts an ultra sharp and vibrant image that even the higher end PVM's have difficulty achieving (The only two that would come close would be the PVM-14L5 and PVM-14M4U). Scanlines on this little beauty are fairly thick, thanks to its line count, and give the monitor a very sharp/crisp look. The unit is equipped with composite video, s-video, component video, and RGBS. All the video formats supports by it look phenomenal on the BT-H1390YN, including composite video (far better than even my old PVM-20L5 could do). The monitor also does not have any visible dampening wires that seem to be a trademark of the Sony Trinitrons (14 inchers having 1 visible and 20's or larger having 2). Weight wise this monitor weighs a good deal less than a PVM of equal size, I was pretty surprised how light it was when I picked it up. Its light weight and small size make it an excellent monitor for desk duty. So far from what I have tested the monitor seems to take any sync signal I throw at it. In fact, it actually hates the LM1881n sync stripper (the picture is shifted half an inch to the left when using it).
This Panasonic monitor is not without its issues however. The first noticeable thing is the curve of the tube itself. If you are used to gaming on a Sony Trinitron you will need to take a few minutes to get used to how curved this monitor is. You can sort of tell what I mean in the pictures below however this is a very very minor thing. If anything it gives the monitor more of a retro/oldschool feel when playing games. One of my biggest complaints with the BT-H1390YN is the lack of configuration options. Being a re-branded JVC (or vice versa) the BT-H1390YN has the same limited configuration the JVC monitors have. There are no real geometry controls (except for v/h size and position) so better check the monitor itself out before buying if you choose to try one of these little beauties.
In Short:
Pros:
- Amazing Picture Quality
- Nice Thick Scanlines
- Small Size
- Takes Almost Any Sync Signal
- Supports Composite, S-Video, Component, and 15Khz RGBS.
Cons:
- Lacks many nice configuration options (Mostly Geometry)
- Some people might not like the curve of the CRT
Pictures:
The monitor is far better looking than this in person, my camera just does not want to cooperate.
S-Video
P.S. If people like this sort of review layout and or info I will post monitors up like this in the future.
Skips, Any chance you can share that service manual again? The dropbox link is broken and I can't find it anywhere. Sorry for the old thread bump. Thanks in advance!
xsq
Thou Shalt Not, Question Rot.,
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skips hasn't been around here for a long time
i don't think he's gonna hear you...
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I own the BT-H1390Y and BT-H1390YN. The manual is exactly the same and the monitors are exactly the same other than the added"N"
I provided the link for the manual for the BT-H1390Y below.Here
jamie666
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Does anyone have any experience with the Bang and Olufsen BioCenter 1 crt? Thinking about getting one. How does the BioCenter 1 stack up against the other Bang and Olufsen crt's? I cant seem to find much info on it. Is this the same as the BioVision??
xsq
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I've never seen/tried one, can only tell you the MX series (all but the 8000 possibly) are great for older consoles... wouldn't surprise me if the BeoCenter was good as well.
You can check the pages of BeoWorld and BeoCentral for some more info, but if you can you should try it on site with the 240p test suit. How much is the seller asking btw?
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Can't go wrong with B&O
jamie666
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Yeah I'll post up my impressions once I get the tv. To any UK members looking to sell my pvm. Overall good condition, some streaking but gets better when warmed up. Message me for details. Will be collection only I'm in the south of England.
NEO G-TRON
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These are two of my most used Sony PVM's model 2950Q. I typically use these for dual monitor head to head 2D fighters on my AES and JP Saturn. In the pic just testing out T2 running of of my Pioneer LaserActive. Looks decent enough for Composite video, hoping to RGB out mod the mobo for the PAC's and S-Video mod it for the LaserDisc playback.
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I love the two monitor set up. I do a weekly fighting game night and it is so nice to have for the old school 2D fighters. Definitely post some pics once you finish your mods
KyaDash
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Unless you plan to look into getting a decent comb filter of some sort to throw in there, I'm not really sure how worth it such a mod would be. You have to remember, Laserdisc is straight up composite encoding straight from the disc, so it's not like jumping to S-Video is giving you access to higher quality outright, just applying some filtering, if that.
jamie666
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So I received my Bang and Olufsen Beocenter 1 and overall am very impressed. The set looks like nothing else and is absolutely stunning. Even now it completely fits in with everything else in my place. Motorised stand is great so tv is flush with the wall and when powered on turns to exactly where I am playing. Picture is very bright and vibrant. Not as crystal clear as my pvm but it is a bigger screen 25" so that was to be expected. Scanlines are nice and bold and the set does everything I want it to do. Sound is amazing eliminating the need for external speakers which is a bonus. It even has a built in radio tuner as well as dvd player that also plays cd''s!
I'll post some pics up soon.
One question it defaults in 16:9 mode everytime I play my snes via retro gaming cables Csync rgb cable. Am I right that it will be because of the cable why its doing that and not going directly into 4:3 mode? I have read something about power from pin 8 on the scart cable?
I'll post some pics up soon.
One question it defaults in 16:9 mode everytime I play my snes via retro gaming cables Csync rgb cable. Am I right that it will be because of the cable why its doing that and not going directly into 4:3 mode? I have read something about power from pin 8 on the scart cable?
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NEO G-TRON
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I love the two monitor set up. I do a weekly fighting game night and it is so nice to have for the old school 2D fighters. Definitely post some pics once you finish your mods
Thanks dude! Will definitely post up some pics of it working once done. A few guy's I know from the PC Engine scene have already performed this mod on their LaserActive's and say the RGB out for the PAC's looks amazing. Kinda what I'm more excited on overall. And yes the dual monitor action comes in fantastic when playing console ports of fighting games on them! The house favorite at the moment on them is SFZ3 on the JP Saturn. Here's a pic of it from a few months back before I reorganized my entire living room setup. Lol taking great pics of CRT's is an art of it's self! Need to bring up them skills!
jamie666
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Hoping someone can offer some cable advice. On my BeoCenter1 I am running my Pal SNES and Mega Drive with a Retro Gaming Cable RGB CSYNC scart cable. When playing in 60Hz I'm getting a slight shimmer or wobble of the picture. Can anyone tell me why. These are the cables I purchased for use with my pvm and on that the issue does not happen.
Guessing it must be something to do with CSYNC?
Can anyone tell me exactly what cable I need to eliminate this issue?
Also when using these cables the BeoCenter1 always defaults onto format 2 or 16:9 picture mode why is this and once again how do I make sure the set always stays on 4:3? Heard it's something once again to do with the cable?
Thanks
Guessing it must be something to do with CSYNC?
Can anyone tell me exactly what cable I need to eliminate this issue?
Also when using these cables the BeoCenter1 always defaults onto format 2 or 16:9 picture mode why is this and once again how do I make sure the set always stays on 4:3? Heard it's something once again to do with the cable?
Thanks
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You need to supply 12v to pin 8 to auto switch to 4:3.
Unfortunately you don't have a 12v source in the SNES, so usually only 5v is pased to Pin8, hence the 16:9 aspect ratio.
A workaround here is to supply an external 12v source to the scart plug itself, or some sort of charge converter to go from 5v to 12v...