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    Captain Tomaday: Boot or SNK repaired?

    I know for a fact this is the right board, but I also know that they are all not original eeproms, is this a down right boot or professionally repaired?




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    Personally, this almost seems like someone converted an older game into Captain Tomaday. The PROG board is dated for 1994, whereas Captain Tomaday is 1999. Also I don't think either of those board types are originally for Captain Tomaday. All the MX and eprom chips suggests this.

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    The date on the boards doesnt matter and these boards were used for Tomaday. But it is a boot nonetheless.

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    I was pretty sure when I saw those windowed chips it was a boot, but aren't MX a little pricey of chips to use on a boot?

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    Not necessarily , they can be bought for about the same price or cheaper than standard UV eproms.

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    It was confirmed that SNK used MX chips towards the end of their reign in 97-2000 for some games. Captain Tomaday came out in 99 BUT it wasn't a high demand game so it's a boot.

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    That and they have that lil' SNK sticker or a marker mark on them.
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    I've only seen MX EPROMs on an original MVS cart. Games I've seen with standard MX Mask Roms have all been boots

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    I have a few Fighters Swords where the M1 chip is an MX mask rom.

    http://www.mvs-scans.com/index.php/S...epair.2FKorean
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    I have a Sonic Wings 3 cart with pcbs that look almost exactly like the pics above (except for 2 more chips on the CHA board). It's filled with MX chips and uses a 1994 PROG board.

    But the kicker is that, whoever made the cart put 2 square shaped holographic temper stickers with "original" printed all over it, one on the side and another over one of the screw holes. Did they think that was going to stop me from opening it to check? XD
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    That's why I was skeptical and was wondering if it was a repair or not, it's actually one of the better looking boots to me in my collection.

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    Hi,

    I think that in this case, the final evidence is the solders side, could you take some pictures?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fremen View Post
    Hi,

    I think that in this case, the final evidence is the solders side, could you take some pictures?

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    Not needed in this case: every single chip is not original, so it is not a "repaired" cartridge but a clear boot.

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    edit: is not a conversion, is a boot.
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    One or two MX chips, and only in M1 and maybe a P slot, but a whole cart full of MX "flash" roms? Hell no... Boot.

    It's not a "conversion" either. It's a straight up boot. A "conversion" is the act of taking original chips and transplanting them to AES<->MVS boards -- all original SNK parts.
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    My Captain Tomaday also says 1994 on the card. Pretty sure it's the original label with serials etc. Toshiba chips. I hope it's no boot.

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    Yes, but NOT windowed mask roms

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    There's no such thing as a *windowed* mask ROM.

    Mask ROMS are fabricted, much like an IC and are done by the ROM manufacturer. These cannot be erased so there is no need for a window. UV EPROMS have the windows and can be erased and reprogrammed by consumers.

    Most mask ROM manufacturers also make OTP EPROM and sometimes FLASH varities, which people tend to confuse as a mask ROM because they are plastic and don't have a window.

    Pay attention to the part numbers listed on the chips. For this particular game, Captain Tomaday has a 32Mb V1 and an 8Mb V2. This is the known official configuration for this game, and on Toshiba *mask* ROMS (the TC53xxx numbers). The bootleg above has 3x 16Mb Macronix FLASH memories (29F1615) used as the V1, v2, and V3 chips.

    What are we going to do when the pirates start using a little acetone to disolve the MX part numbers and screen print new info? It's probably already going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMKurtz View Post
    What are we going to do when the pirates start using a little acetone to disolve the MX part numbers and screen print new info? It's probably already going on.
    I sure hope the MVS market never gets that bad. For AES, I can believe it. Up until now most MVS bootleggers didn't care much about passing off their goods as legit as long as it played right in a cab somewhere in a second world country. You're talking about bootlegging for collectors, which I hope remains very small.

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    No doubt! I'm glad I have the MVS carts I want in my collection so that I don't have to worry about this sort of thing now. Anyone getting into collecting now has a lot of boots to wade through.

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    I sure hope the MVS market never gets that bad. For AES, I can believe it. Up until now most MVS bootleggers didn't care much about passing off their goods as legit as long as it played right in a cab somewhere in a second world country. You're talking about bootlegging for collectors, which I hope remains very small.
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