Kizuna Jap AES Boards (Conversion); Metal Slug Jap AES Boards

caren103

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1) Kizuna Jap AES BOARDS:

Well, today I've decided to open another game purchased in the "noob" past ( and from France, yes XD ), which I had been inspecting this last month as some details arised some suspicions on me (paper thickness on manual, some colors...).

Once opened, found this ( I would be grateful if the usual people here with knowledge could comment too ),

- Chips from "Savage Reign" are present ( lazy work, I guess...). Curious that cart were used for the conversion; too it is a frankenstein conversion, not seen Eproms here.

- Some burnt here and there, some soldering tin not as clean as factory one... anyway, not a bad soldering work here.

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2) Metal Slug Jap AES BOARDS:

With this I have not had never any doubt: all art, staples, colors, etc., seemed absolutely the real thing.

Anyway, once opened the Kizuna one, I've decided to play the russian roulette again, and open this ( I've remembered Tonk's story about a ripped Pulstar sticker XD ).

I've not seen anything in the boards to make me change the thoughts I already had about the art: this is the real thing.

Any comments, as always, are welcome.

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Asure

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Kizuna looks pretty legit: Savage Reign boards are known to be used by SNK as a base for Kizuna boards. I've owned several MVS versions of Kizuna with Savage Reign inside them. SNK just got lazy when using those boards, and left chips inside. (Same story of chips left inside for the Volleyball game i think..)
 

SNKorSWM

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All AES conversions made from authentic mvs carts have legit chips. The difference is in the soldering work.
 
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NEO-GEO man

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Having opened quite alot of carts, including conversions done by others as well as SNK repairs, i would have very little reason to believe those are not genuine.

Puzzle Bobble was the game that still retained a few chips from Power Spikes 2.
 

caren103

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Metal Slub boards soldering is factory one, with no doubt, as I said in the post.

Kizuna has at least some manual soldering on it, and some little burn in the boards.

Regarding what has been told about Kizuna recycling/using Savage Reign boards, I wonder: how did SNK recycle one cart to convert it into another game?

I mean, was all an authomatized process, so all desoldering and soldering would be clean, with no burns, and not involving at all manual soldering? Or manual soldering was involved for these cases?

For example too, the Samurai Shodown Zero Special Fixed ones, would have been changed the chips using manual soldering?
 

mastamuzz

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some times even if automated soldering is not always right and sometimes they had to solder some points manually after visual inspection!
the process wasn't fool proof and some defective carts even went out!
you can see this on older carts that have thinner solder and need reworking!

but those boards look good!
 
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