Finally Fuun/Kizuna 4 Players in Action video!

massimiliano

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Hi, sorry if I'm repeating a little, but I'm happy I was able to record (probably) the first video ever that shows Kizuna's 4 players mode in action :upf:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl9ktS5cyGU

everything started in NeoTurfMasta thread:

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217087

and in the last page finally we were able to make the daughterboard work.

I would thank Brian, Raz and MKL for the support, as starting from this board it could be possible to replicate the interface and use the special version of the game with an alternative for that rare item.

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WOW, can't wait to get home and check that out!


Just to clarify, did you modify preexisting Kizuna carts to be 4P compatible? Or were new carts made? To my knowledge, there aren't Kizuna carts out there with the ports for the jumpers between carts for 4P play.
 
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The trickiest part will now be finding three other people that enjoy that piece of shit.



;)

Seriously: Nice job, that's a damn cool project.
 
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you ve done another great one my friend


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mmsadda said:
WOW, can't wait to get home and check that out!


Just to clarify, did you modify preexisting Kizuna carts to be 4P compatible? Or were new carts made? To my knowledge, there aren't Kizuna carts out there with the ports for the jumpers between carts for 4P play.
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Only one cart my friend.
 
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mmsadda said:
Just to clarify, did you modify preexisting Kizuna carts to be 4P compatible? Or were new carts made? To my knowledge, there aren't Kizuna carts out there with the ports for the jumpers between carts for 4P play.
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Herrrr...no, "no carts were harmed during the making of this movie" (!)

Long story short, in '96 SNK tried this 4Players setup in Osaka in few location test, but then it was never used in regular arcades.

It was composed by a normal Fuun MVS kit, a MV1B with special bios and a 4Player "splitter" FTC1 daughterboard interface to hookup 2 cabinet for VS mode.


Digging around here you'll find some old thread and a picture of the complete original boxset, which means it was definitively not a prototype, but a not-commercialized finished product.

I was able to get a brand new boxed FTC1 daughterboard with artworks, but no "special" MV1B....:hammer:

Placing a unibios (with NeoBiosMasta) on a normal MV1B did the trick, so the daughterboard did the rest, managing the 4 players inputs.

NeoTurfMasta could clone that board now that it's tested, and possibly we could all benefit from that :upf:



Edit:

more details here:

http://www.neogeoland.jp/F1B4P.html
 
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Great video, thanks for sharing it.... :multi_co:
 
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NeoTurfMasta said:
You should plug in a NeoBomberMan just for kicks.
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:D I tried, but nothing :(

I think that should use two carts ala league bowling, cause the players should controlled at the same time and probably the Kizuna kit can't handle them.

Maybe it was asked before, but no 4P code was found in NeoBom"bar"man rom right!?
 
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massimiliano said:
Herrrr...no, "no carts were harmed during the making of this movie" (!)

Long story short, in '96 SNK tried this 4Players setup in Osaka in few location test, but then it was never used in regular arcades.

It was composed by a normal Fuun MVS kit, a MV1B with special bios and a 4Player "splitter" FTC1 daughterboard interface to hookup 2 cabinet for VS mode.


Digging around here you'll find some old thread and a picture of the complete original boxset, which means it was definitively not a prototype, but a not-commercialized finished product.

I was able to get a brand new boxed FTC1 daughterboard with artworks, but no "special" MV1B....:hammer:

Placing a unibios (with NeoBiosMasta) on a normal MV1B did the trick, so the daughterboard did the rest, managing the 4 players inputs.

NeoTurfMasta could clone that board now that it's tested, and possibly we could all benefit from that :upf:



Edit:

more details here:

http://www.neogeoland.jp/F1B4P.html
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Wow, that's awesome! Such a cool project, Massimiliano! So it uses a single cart and mobo on two cabs? That's so cool!

I was going to ask if NTM could copy the PCB - awesome to hear it's doable.
 
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Congrats! That was great, the neo never ceases to amaze me. Who'd of thought we would still be finding new things to do with it for this long?

PS - It's a shame about Neo Bomberman, but I suppose you just can't have it all :p.
 
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Awesome, now post a video of 3 people actually playing the game with you.
 
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Most impressive, massimiliano!

I know jack diddly squat about programming, but does anybody know how difficult would it be to create 4P coding that would be compatible with the original Neo Bomberman code and use the same/similar daughterboard used for Kizuna?
 
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I still think bomberman was originally planned to use the HERO PROG board for using the com port on it for 4 player linked play same as Riding Hero linking.
 
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massimiliano said:
I think that should use two carts ala league bowling, cause the players should controlled at the same time and probably the Kizuna kit can't handle them.
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Xian Xi said:
I still think bomberman was originally planned to use the HERO PROG board for using the com port on it for 4 player linked play same as Riding Hero linking.
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For the hell of it I burned NBM on my dev board. I didnt want to pull the comm IC from any of my link carts, so I ordered one off of eBay a few days ago. Should get it here soon. But for now I just wanted to make sure I burned the eproms correctly. I used the orig char board from NBM and just the prog board from my dev board.

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NBMDev2.JPG


I'm not all that optimistic it will magically come up when I put in the comm chip, but doesnt hurt to try. If any of you guys want to poke through the NBM code, please do. I wouldnt know what I'm looking for.
 
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Shit, I forgot you had that.

Let us know what happens when you drop the chip in.
 
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whatever happened to this site ?
it seems full of idiots busy bashing fuun stb and other awesome neo geo games

please,go back to gamefaqs or just don't post in general discussion at all
unrelated is your place if you have no good taste or neo-knowledge
 
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seriously, I do not understand how someone can bash a game like kizuna.
 
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LWGAY said:
seriously, I do not understand how someone can bash a game like kizuna.
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I love kizuna and I know I would fucking love 4 player kizuna. A long time ago I had a vision of playing 4 player SFII, tag team style. I thought it was a good idea and still think it is. At least SNK thought about it, too.

Weirdly though I don't care much for Savage Reign, must be the tagging I love in Kizuna.
 
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the direction team fighting games should evolve is into multiplayer. games like KOF can easily work with 6 players, local and online if they wanted to.
 
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No workie. Game will start to boot up, but locks on title screen. Below are the most common errors.

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