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Won't shed a tear for either one of 'em
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Solid episode last night.
T-Dog: I was just starting to like him. But really, I have to agree with everyone that believes his 'replacement' is just a reboot of T-Dog's basic concepts, and the writers will try harder to make him relevant. The guy even has the same humanistic viewpoint that T-Dog started showing in this season before he got the axe.
Lori: I'm actually glad they did this because Rick's development will be interesting to see. He had his chances to make up with her and didn't. Does this make him realize he should have softened up sooner, or does it make him more vicious?
Still holding up for me. Better than season 2 by far, IMO.
T-Dog: I was just starting to like him. But really, I have to agree with everyone that believes his 'replacement' is just a reboot of T-Dog's basic concepts, and the writers will try harder to make him relevant. The guy even has the same humanistic viewpoint that T-Dog started showing in this season before he got the axe.
Lori: I'm actually glad they did this because Rick's development will be interesting to see. He had his chances to make up with her and didn't. Does this make him realize he should have softened up sooner, or does it make him more vicious?
Still holding up for me. Better than season 2 by far, IMO.
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I think the kills were solid, because that's life. Not some cutesy Walter White getting away with everything and never getting his comeuppance, or every other anti-hero centric tv show that we have now (Mad Men, Boardwalk, Sopranos, and of course Breaking Bad). It seems that the show has a better budget now. Maybe that's because Mad Men is garbage and they finally realized this and decided to give TWD proper funding (the helicopter scene in last week's episode had to cost more than all of season 2).
I wasn't ready to see T-Dogg go. He was a solid guy and really held the group together. He was also one of the only humans left in the group, voicing his disapproval of keeping the prisoners locked away in the cellblock. T-Dogg understood that a man can redeem himself, and that's something that Darryl, Rick, and the others don't care to allow. The only reason they are working with the prisoners now is because they needed them - but respect as fellow humans? Only T-Dogg was offering that.
Also, there's a much starker divergence from the comics now. I still see Glenn and Maggie caring for the wee baby Shania, but I wonder if Kirkman will employ a real butterfly effect, where things that are supposed to happen, with the Governor, simply do not.
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Of course everyone started to like T-Dog now, because he finally started to talk after two seasons and that is what sealed his fate
For two straight season's T-Dog's dialogue consisted of saying things we already knew or could see( I kid you not one of his lines was after everyone see's a walker coming out of a door he says there's a walker coming out of that door ), shit until his death all we knew was his first name and let's not forget he was gone for a long ass stretch of the second season.
I can't morn him as he hasn't done anything of use( he's not even useful during the big walker take down sessions ) or really brought anything to the table other then being token black guy who now may or may not have been replaced by another token black guy
For two straight season's T-Dog's dialogue consisted of saying things we already knew or could see( I kid you not one of his lines was after everyone see's a walker coming out of a door he says there's a walker coming out of that door ), shit until his death all we knew was his first name and let's not forget he was gone for a long ass stretch of the second season.
I can't morn him as he hasn't done anything of use( he's not even useful during the big walker take down sessions ) or really brought anything to the table other then being token black guy who now may or may not have been replaced by another token black guy
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The wife and I are two and half seasons into this shit show (recommended by a buddy from work), and it's all I can do to help myself from laughing at all the cliches in this absolute snore fest of a TV show.
Seriously, this reminds me of a half ass "Days of ours lives" soap opera with some "end of the world apocalyptic zombies" tossed in the mix, at some half ass attempt to keep the audience wondering why this show even exists.
And HOLY cliche BATMAN! Seriously, WTF?
Okay, I'll go put my flame suit on now.
Seriously, this reminds me of a half ass "Days of ours lives" soap opera with some "end of the world apocalyptic zombies" tossed in the mix, at some half ass attempt to keep the audience wondering why this show even exists.
And HOLY cliche BATMAN! Seriously, WTF?
Okay, I'll go put my flame suit on now.
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there aren't even 2.5 seasons yet. Maybe you're still on Herschel's farm? Yeah, that part sucked.
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you know you saw the eye Beth gave Carl meant the kitty room is open for business.
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Did anyone ever see that episode of the Simpsons where they kill off Fat Tony, replace him with Fit Tony, who lets himself go until he himself becomes another Fat Tony...and then the show goes on like nothing happened?
You guys already know what I'm getting at, but as inconsequential as it was, the death of a long running character really bums me out.
Actually, what's the deal with black people having so few lines? (like Michonne etc.) Are the writers so afraid of looking incompetent when attempting to capture the spirit, the vernacular, and mannerisms, etc. of the average black american man/woman...so they just make them stoic, introverted loners of few words and subtle actions? It's like a few notches over the magical brother crutch in film making, but still...
And speaking of replacements..I have a feeling that second convict with the curleh moustache will be filling a vacancy left behind by Hershel after the production team gets sick of making him look like he's missing a leg in every shot. The team will need a folksy Mr. Fix-it type and killing off the dad of two daughters makes for good drama.
You guys already know what I'm getting at, but as inconsequential as it was, the death of a long running character really bums me out.
Actually, what's the deal with black people having so few lines? (like Michonne etc.) Are the writers so afraid of looking incompetent when attempting to capture the spirit, the vernacular, and mannerisms, etc. of the average black american man/woman...so they just make them stoic, introverted loners of few words and subtle actions? It's like a few notches over the magical brother crutch in film making, but still...
And speaking of replacements..I have a feeling that second convict with the curleh moustache will be filling a vacancy left behind by Hershel after the production team gets sick of making him look like he's missing a leg in every shot. The team will need a folksy Mr. Fix-it type and killing off the dad of two daughters makes for good drama.
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What if Herschel decides to quietly go back to his farm with Beth, Glenn, and Maggie?
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Hah, that won't happen. He's so slow with a leg missing that it's only a matter of time before he's zombie munch. He almost got chewed up running for that fence.
Curley mustache sounds like a good replacement for Dale. I'm still waiting for him to show his true self as the sick serial killer from the comics though
Curley mustache sounds like a good replacement for Dale. I'm still waiting for him to show his true self as the sick serial killer from the comics though
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Damn straight!
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Curley moustache guy is Axel, correct?
He was a beefed-up machine in the comic but still didn't last long.
Still, we all know the show is taking bits a pieces from the book and the changing it as it suits the producers - which I actually appreciate.
He was a beefed-up machine in the comic but still didn't last long.
Still, we all know the show is taking bits a pieces from the book and the changing it as it suits the producers - which I actually appreciate.
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Echoing the public sentiment, I am also enjoying this season far more than the snoozefest of the farm. That said, there are still plenty of fixable gripes that make you wonder if Robert Kirkman is taking writing lessons from George Lucas. Some of this revisionist history is not only detracting from the strength of the original characters, but also frustrating from a common sense viewpoint.
- The racial makeup of Woodbury lends itself to a very credible representation of the Atlanta, GA area. Only white people are admitted inside the gates unless they can be a soldier. Poor Michonne makes everyone white uncomfortable prompting the Governor to sit down Andrea for a talk. Of course this racial homogeneity is probably due to the location action being The Masters clubhouse. The Governor has obviously located the hidden Titleist storage seeing as how he’s so willing to send a bucket of golf balls into zombie oblivion without a second thought.
- Andrea is a much better Lori 2.0, so there’s no way that she’ll turn into a complaining whiner who will attach herself to any bad boy who gives her comfort. It’s a bit of a stretch for her to be shocked by the horror and brutality of a staged boxing match. Surely she must have noticed that the people of Woodbury can entertain themselves with TVs, Nintendo, treadmills, espresso machines and all the other modern amenities instead.
- Every story needs a great villain, so thankfully we have a Governor-lite who looks like Liam Neeson but would probably curl up in a ball if thrown into the Alaskan wilderness surrounded by wolves. We have plenty of ways left to make him into a despised and fearful presence, including having the show drop into NC-17 or having him kill Carl (plenty of kid deaths on TV), Andrea (we don’t need any women on the show either), or Rick (let’s really mix up the story, why not).
- Prisons have doors. And entry gates. However it’s much easier to get into one by cutting a piece of the fence and then tying a shoelace around it, one that needs to constantly be tied and untied for someone to leave the premises. It also needs to be at the farthest point possible from the main block so that if there is a sudden zombie attack inside the prison we have the longest distance to run on the outside and the most doors to open before we can reach our family members in need.
- Ok everyone, we’re going to explore the inner confines of this prison, probably filled with a lot of zombies. We’ll be in extreme danger, subject to injury and infection, in cramped dark quarters where agility and fitness will be at a premium. I think the best idea is to take along our oldest and slowest male, who also happens to be our only doctor and best chance for an upcoming childbirth, and let’s hope he doesn’t get bitten.
- Some people have expressed outrage at the Governor’s ability to take out the National Guard unit. However, Kirkman is quite right and it’s entirely feasible that the NG unit was surrounded by a half dozen untrained Woodbury sentinels since there was no reason to stand guard for walkers or any other dangers where they set up camp.
Is it too late to get Frank Darabont back? Or at least get Kirkman in the same room as Georges R.R. Martin and Lucas so he can see the opposite sides of how a remake/story retelling should be done?
Over the past weekend I went back and reread the Woodbury story arc. Again, Kirkman is not as good of a storyteller as Moore/Miller/Wood, etc. But he can spin a compelling yarn. So why can’t he take his own source material and improve upon it?
- The racial makeup of Woodbury lends itself to a very credible representation of the Atlanta, GA area. Only white people are admitted inside the gates unless they can be a soldier. Poor Michonne makes everyone white uncomfortable prompting the Governor to sit down Andrea for a talk. Of course this racial homogeneity is probably due to the location action being The Masters clubhouse. The Governor has obviously located the hidden Titleist storage seeing as how he’s so willing to send a bucket of golf balls into zombie oblivion without a second thought.
- Andrea is a much better Lori 2.0, so there’s no way that she’ll turn into a complaining whiner who will attach herself to any bad boy who gives her comfort. It’s a bit of a stretch for her to be shocked by the horror and brutality of a staged boxing match. Surely she must have noticed that the people of Woodbury can entertain themselves with TVs, Nintendo, treadmills, espresso machines and all the other modern amenities instead.
- Every story needs a great villain, so thankfully we have a Governor-lite who looks like Liam Neeson but would probably curl up in a ball if thrown into the Alaskan wilderness surrounded by wolves. We have plenty of ways left to make him into a despised and fearful presence, including having the show drop into NC-17 or having him kill Carl (plenty of kid deaths on TV), Andrea (we don’t need any women on the show either), or Rick (let’s really mix up the story, why not).
- Prisons have doors. And entry gates. However it’s much easier to get into one by cutting a piece of the fence and then tying a shoelace around it, one that needs to constantly be tied and untied for someone to leave the premises. It also needs to be at the farthest point possible from the main block so that if there is a sudden zombie attack inside the prison we have the longest distance to run on the outside and the most doors to open before we can reach our family members in need.
- Ok everyone, we’re going to explore the inner confines of this prison, probably filled with a lot of zombies. We’ll be in extreme danger, subject to injury and infection, in cramped dark quarters where agility and fitness will be at a premium. I think the best idea is to take along our oldest and slowest male, who also happens to be our only doctor and best chance for an upcoming childbirth, and let’s hope he doesn’t get bitten.
- Some people have expressed outrage at the Governor’s ability to take out the National Guard unit. However, Kirkman is quite right and it’s entirely feasible that the NG unit was surrounded by a half dozen untrained Woodbury sentinels since there was no reason to stand guard for walkers or any other dangers where they set up camp.
Is it too late to get Frank Darabont back? Or at least get Kirkman in the same room as Georges R.R. Martin and Lucas so he can see the opposite sides of how a remake/story retelling should be done?
Over the past weekend I went back and reread the Woodbury story arc. Again, Kirkman is not as good of a storyteller as Moore/Miller/Wood, etc. But he can spin a compelling yarn. So why can’t he take his own source material and improve upon it?
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I love this idea
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I'm glad they ended the midseason with him.
I like the direction the show has taken with Merle and Darryl. I'm glad I stuck with the show. Could care less about the comic.
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Me and my wife called that they would redshirt the convict (don't even know his name. Oscar?)
Carl has developed into the character I always hoped he would be, the one you see in the comic that is such an interesting person to read about. I'm really having a hard time finding anything to dislike about him this season, and he might have just become my favorite.
It makes me wonder if the underplayed acting style was what they were looking for early on and the producers were just waiting for things to get to this point with him. I didn't think much of the actor in the first two seasons when he was just 'helpless kid who gets in trouble', but it seems like his soft, low voice and sort of monotone delivery seem perfect for a young person who's maturing in a world very different and less hopeful than our own.
There's probably also a lot of concern on the producers to get audiences on board with Carl, since he's basically the main reason Rick even does anything. If Carl dies, Rick is essentially a useless character from a conceptual standpoint and the entire narrative would lose a lot of steam.
As for Merle,
More likely scenario:
Also:
Carl has developed into the character I always hoped he would be, the one you see in the comic that is such an interesting person to read about. I'm really having a hard time finding anything to dislike about him this season, and he might have just become my favorite.
It makes me wonder if the underplayed acting style was what they were looking for early on and the producers were just waiting for things to get to this point with him. I didn't think much of the actor in the first two seasons when he was just 'helpless kid who gets in trouble', but it seems like his soft, low voice and sort of monotone delivery seem perfect for a young person who's maturing in a world very different and less hopeful than our own.
There's probably also a lot of concern on the producers to get audiences on board with Carl, since he's basically the main reason Rick even does anything. If Carl dies, Rick is essentially a useless character from a conceptual standpoint and the entire narrative would lose a lot of steam.
As for Merle,
Spoiler:
More likely scenario:
Spoiler:
Also:
Spoiler:
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I think that much was obvious. Merle has tossed his chips in with the Governor. I can't see the show going another direction.
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From the teaser, I gathered that
Darryl and Merle escape
Andrea makes her way to the prison
Andrea goes back to the Gov
Beth will make a move on Rick
Herschel will go apeshit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JBt_s4QkKm4
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At this point in time it's just laughable and will show up more and more in articles about the show that networks do not want to be painted as, last nights episode so far is one of the best episodes of the season thus far but it also makes the writers look like some dumb asses