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    Anybody seen this one on ebay,i was going to make a offer on this

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

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    Quote Originally Posted by caren103 View Post
    BE CAREFUL these days.

    I've found on Ebay some Metal Slug 1 Jap, with the manual with the bricks RIGHT, but after detecting a more darker colour in the insert, I contacted the seller, and juts let's say he was a a liar (first said the bought game at Akihabara, then at a UK shop, he said he could not take close pictures as the game was already packaged (28 days left for the end of the auction) nor he wanted to unpackage for the pictures it even being an expensive item, etc.)... so I guess it was a FAKE MS but with the bricks row CORRECTED.
    This is the one i was going to make a offer on because the bricks on the manual are correct.whats wrong with the insert???

    Thanks in advance

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    Just ask the seller to send you some high res and close pictures of insert (front, back, spine), manual (front, back, inside), sticker (front, up), and let's see what happens.

    Also you can ask him who checked game was an original.

    Good luck.

    From the shown pictures, me and also a collector's friend noticed a darker insert: so I asked extra pictures and information, but I only found... lies.

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    I wouldnt even chance it if the seller isnt going to play ball.i havnt got 1000 to spare.if the seller is not willing to send close up pics of the insert then im not intertested.

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    I personally wouldn't buy a metal slug off eBay, too many conversions and scammers about. I'd ask on the forums first if anyone has a genuine one for sale or just get the mvs version.

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    I wouldnt buy one as a collectible If it was cheap enough to buy and play with the chance of it being a bootleg then maybe but thats a total different kettle of fish and a totally different amount of money id consider good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amish MacTavish View Post
    Anybody seen this one on ebay,i was going to make a offer on this

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
    Looks legit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caren103 View Post
    SuperDeadite, might I ask you to explain with pictures (if possible) the differences in the insert and sticker so other noob members like me can see what to look for besides the secod bricks row in the manual, when faced with an "original" which is a conversion?
    No problem.

    1. Besides the bricks, the manual staples are in the wrong place. Also a real manual
    shows a lot more of the clouds then the fake auction slug. Here's a pic of mine, notice how the clouds at the bottom are bigger:


    2. Insert. The muzzle flash on the front is wrong. Look at the 2 top sprite spikes. On a real Slug the far right is shorter then the left. The auction slug is opposite.
    A real slug insert muzzle flash:

    3. Insert Back: A real slug has 3 brick lines on the back. They are only a few millimeters away from the edge of the insert. The auction slug lacks these brick lines, which is another common sign of a fake slug.
    Real Slug:

    4. Spine: Really difficult to get a good pic. All real slugs actually had a printing error. The SNK letters kind of ink bleed togeather. Meaning the letters are attached. Note they are attached by only a few tiny blue pixels. My camera probably isn't good enough to see it. But I've never seen a fake that replicated the error properly.
    Real Slug:

    5. Label. I can't get a good picture of this. But the auction slug label is way to brightly white. On the auction slug, notice how the brown part looks dirty? Those black spots are actually the cart showing through. However the white part is pure white, there are no black spots. This is a fake. A real label has the same "see through" black spots as the brown part. You can see them on the logo too. The fake slugs' white color is way too strong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caren103 View Post
    The most well-known fake manuals for the Metal Slug game have a row of bricks with a difference when compared with an original manual: fake: 2 bricks; original: 3 bricks.

    Also, when the manual is fake, the most common is the rest is fake too.

    Yes, please, upload and show here high resolution pictures of: manual (front, back, two close inner pages); insert (front, back, spine), sticker (front and above), and above all, pictures of the two boards (front and above all back).

    In the meanwhile, you should stop selling at Ebay this item immediately, until you see why people here have concluded it is a fake item.
    Hello
    I am no scammer and I believe his words.
    Actually I am disappointed, pay for this game two years ago $ 1150 dollars.
    I can not believe it has been slow to realize that not a legitimate game, Metal Slug is the only one I caught and I also sell games NEO GEO, which is why I can not believe how I cheated, but I am not a crook decided cancel the auction.
    Regards

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    Thumbs up

    A wise and honest decision, samuelnippon.

    I wonder how much of us have in the collections some fake carts without even never having realized it.

    It's a shock when you discover you were scammed and paid a high amount of money for the item .

    EDIT: SuperDeadite, MANY THANKS!!! A Wonderful explanation!!!
    Last edited by caren103; 05-02-2010 at 10:33 AM.

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    I already did.
    I wish that the person who started to insult me or call me scammer realized I did not put on auction knowing that my article was false.
    There are people who lack manners.
    I am not a blind and closes and I'm not a crook.
    The truth makes me very angry that I have cheated in this way.
    do not want to smear my reputation
    Regards

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    ok i cancel my auction.
    I lost money
    But I'm no cheat
    Greetings and thanks for teaching me how to detect a conversion like this game

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDeadite View Post
    4. Spine: Really difficult to get a good pic. All real slugs actually had a printing error. The SNK letters kind of ink bleed togeather. Meaning the letters are attached. Note they are attached by only a few tiny blue pixels. My camera probably isn't good enough to see it. But I've never seen a fake that replicated the error properly.
    Real Slug:

    5. Label. I can't get a good picture of this. But the auction slug label is way to brightly white. On the auction slug, notice how the brown part looks dirty? Those black spots are actually the cart showing through. However the white part is pure white, there are no black spots. This is a fake. A real label has the same "see through" black spots as the brown part. You can see them on the logo too. The fake slugs' white color is way too strong.
    I own an old Metal Slug conversion with manual (bought as such), and I can say the SNK letters joined by those blue pixels is reproduced at the conversion insert (although I guess with no so accuracy than it is present at an original), and both the sticker brown and white parts "shows" the black plastic cart below.

    So I guess bricks in the rows of the manual, explosion in insert, and bricks in the back of the insert is easiest way to check a fake copy at first sight.

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    Yeah the fakes are getting better sadly. sammualnippon's cart was clearly one of the older easy to spot fakes. But better fakes seem to appear every day.
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    Thanks. I appreciate the great explanation. And kudos to samuelnippon doing the right thing.

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    Man, these things just pops up every day.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Metal-Slug-Neo-g...item45f2b43a7a

    And what are the chances that all of his high ticket items are boots...
    Last edited by SNKorSWM; 05-06-2010 at 03:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SNKorSWM View Post
    Man, these things just pops up every day.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Metal-Slug-Neo-g...item45f2b43a7a

    And what are the chances that all of his high ticket items are boots...
    I demand the price of MS1 in the price guide be lowered, the game just isn't rare anymore
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    Quote Originally Posted by SNKorSWM View Post
    Man, these things just pops up every day.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Metal-Slug-Neo-g...item45f2b43a7a

    And what are the chances that all of his high ticket items are boots...
    I doubt it this guy has an awesome collection and got alot of it from reputable Japanese sellers, if it is who I'm thinking about. He just sold last hope for a ton of cash too, I wish I had some of those carts to sell

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    The manual of this last action seems a fake one to me: it has 2 bricks in the second row from above, and not 3.

    In the insert, I can not see very well the explosion, can someone with better eye than me check the spikes?

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    The manual looks like a reproduction to me as well, the insert looks real though. Can't say much about the cart itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IDCHAPPY View Post
    I doubt it this guy has an awesome collection and got alot of it from reputable Japanese sellers, if it is who I'm thinking about. He just sold last hope for a ton of cash too, I wish I had some of those carts to sell
    This is my first post. My name is spinel. Greetings to everyone. I do not speak English very well, sorry.
    I'm a fan of SNK for many years, and have begun collecting AES games.

    I bought this Metal Slug, and I think that is false.
    The seller seemed very good but I think that either he did not know it was a conversion.
    Here are images of the game:












    This manual is false security. But what about the cartridge and insert? seem very real.
    Yet I have been in contact with the seller. I hope my money back. I am very sad: (

    I hope we can help me. Thank you.

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    Hola, com va per les catalunyes?

    Please, post high resolution and close pictures of FULL front insert, spine, back insert, front and above sticker.

    The manual is fake: please, check also the letters inside the manual: they should look as they proceed from a scan at a close inspection; also see the little grey tank at the first pages: it has to be composed by little grey points if original (which is not, so it should be composed of a simple uniform grey colour).

    Regarding the insert, please check if the Neo-Geo logo (yellow per example) if it is composed by little yellow points, or a simple uniform yellow colour; but I guess the insert is original.

    Regarding the sticker, do you see as a black colour through the gold and white part of the sticker?

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    Hola company, a veure si hem podeu ajudar (pots enviarme un privat pelase?) ^^

    Thanks for the info. More pics:



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    I always wondered why people cry about NGF carts, when clearly, unlike people trying to bootleg games with fake reproductions, NGF clearly and proudly displayed our nameplate (which increased the value of games).

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    Espineli, I believe is better to keep public and not PM, as this can help other people.

    At first sight, I would say the insert and the sticker in the cart seem legit to me.

    Is the manual which is fake.

    But I would like you to check and comment what I remarked:

    "The manual is fake: please, check also the letters inside the manual: they should look as they proceed from a scan at a close inspection; also see the little grey tank at the first pages: it has to be composed by little grey points if original (which is not, so it should be composed of a simple uniform grey colour).

    Regarding the insert, please check if the Neo-Geo logo (yellow per example) if it is composed by little yellow points, or a simple uniform yellow colour; but I guess the insert is original.

    Regarding the sticker, do you see as a black colour through the gold and white part of the sticker?"


    Also, being a newbie in the Neo World, how did you come to purchase an expensive item plenty of bootlegs as Metal Slug?

    How did you suspect something was wrong with the item, being a newbie?

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