Michael Jackson, the man..ish, the memorial

evil wasabi

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And the evidence only shows what HDR wants it to show anyway.

Anything that clearly indicates he was a pedophile is rationalized away, along with all the fake evidence he pulls up from crazy MJ fansites.

It’s not like the court will unseal the actual child porn that every zealous MJ defender froths for.
 

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It’s not like the court will unseal the actual child porn that every zealous MJ defender froths for.

The shit they found isn't technically child porn, and most of those books you can still buy. It's just that I'm willing to take the word of the people who seized the books as to the content in them. I'm not gonna track down the books and then try to verify how many naked children are in them. HDR is welcome to do that on his own time if he wants but it's enough for me that the police said there are tons of full frontal nude kids in them, and that the dudes who wrote the books were NAMBLA members and convicted child molesters themselves.

Jackson exploited the loophole that it's legal to own naked photos of children as long as the kids themselves aren't engaged in explicit sexual activity.

The only thing that isn't publicly available is, presumably, the naked photo of the boy who refused to testify (Spence).
 

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More of it falling apart....

https://www.nme.com/news/music/mich...s-allegations-false-leaving-neverland-2469413

Apparently some holes to the story...The whole thing about Safechuck having sex in the Neverland train couldn't have happen as he said his molestation ended in 1992. The train station was being built late 1993. Opened in 1995.

Also Oprah one of the main people leading this movement has deleted all her videos on youtube & social media tweets regarding Neverland.
 

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More of it falling apart....

https://www.nme.com/news/music/mich...s-allegations-false-leaving-neverland-2469413

Apparently some holes to the story...The whole thing about Safechuck having sex in the Neverland train couldn't have happen as he said his molestation ended in 1992. The train station was being built late 1993. Opened in 1995.

Also Oprah one of the main people leading this movement has deleted all her videos on youtube & social media tweets regarding Neverland.

So the guy doesn't remember exactly what year the abuse ended. Doesn't change a thing, nor does it change any of the other accusers.

Like the one that accurately described Jackson's genitals, a point which you consistently dodge even though Jackson's lawyers admitted that the picture the kid drew was why they paid the kid 23 million dollars.

The guy molested children. Just learn to live with it. Let it go.
 

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So the guy doesn't remember exactly what year the abuse ended. Doesn't change a thing, nor does it change any of the other accusers.

Like the one that accurately described Jackson's genitals, a point which you consistently dodge even though Jackson's lawyers admitted that the picture the kid drew was why they paid the kid 23 million dollars.

The guy molested children. Just learn to live with it. Let it go.

Dates are one thing but he said he did it in Neverland train. How can he do it if there was no train.
 

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Dates are one thing but he said he did it in Neverland train. How can he do it if there was no train.

Do you remember every sexual experience you had from 1985-1995? The exact circumstances? The exact times they happened in relation to other bookmarks in your life?

Again, he simply didn't have the date on when his relationship with Jackson stopped being sexual correct.

He's relating a sequence of extremely traumatic events that began when he was seven years old thirty years after the fact.
 

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Do you remember every sexual experience you had from 1985-1995? The exact circumstances? The exact times they happened in relation to other bookmarks in your life?

Again, he simply didn't have the date on when his relationship with Jackson stopped being sexual correct.

He's relating a sequence of extremely traumatic events that began when he was seven years old thirty years after the fact.

He said it ended in 1992 when he was 14 years old...Train was built in 1995 making him 16ish when that happen.
 

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Jesus you're slow.

LOL, Safechuck already said his last visit to Neverland was when he was 14years old dumb ass.

How the fuck is he going to fuck in a train when it hasn't been built yet.

You cant admit when you're wrong. At least Oprah had the sense to delete her tweets & videos of these guys. Im sure more thing will come.
 

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LOL, Safechuck already said his last visit to Neverland was when he was 14years old dumb ass.

How the fuck is he going to fuck in a train when it hasn't been built yet.

You cant admit when you're wrong. At least Oprah had the sense to delete her tweets & videos of these guys. Im sure more thing will come.

How many times do you need it explained?

Safechuck simply didn't recall exactly when Jackson stopped molesting him. I've said that over and over again, and you just keep responding with "LOL TRAIN"

And get again, you just continually ignore that there are more accusers than you can count on one hand, he paid off more than one of them, they alleged abused in 3 different decades, the accusers are from at least 4 different countries, many have never met each other, at least 7 Jackson employees testified they saw abuse, one of them got a settlement specifically because he drew an accurate picture of Jackson's skin disease splotches on his genitals, Jackson had photos of naked children, and he admitted to sleeping in bed alone with them.

Explain why Terry George is lying, and what he has to gain. He has never sued, and is already rich.
Explain why Jordan Chandler drew the picture of Jackson's genitals so accurately that Jackson gave him 23 million dollars not to testify.
Explain why Michael Jacobshagen is lying, and what he has to gain. He has never sued.
Explain why Gavin Arvizo, the one everyone said was just after money, never actually sued for any money.
Explain why Star Arvio lied.
Explain why Jason Francia lied well enough to get a 2 million dollar settlement.
Explain why there was a naked photo of Jonathan Spence found, and why he left the country rather than testify.
Explain why Jackson employees (more than one, at different times) testified they saw Jackson abuse Robson decades before Robson admitted it?
Explain why a British journalist said he asked Jimmy Safechuck if he was being held against his will while Safechuck was on tour with Jackson, sleeping in Jackson's bed but not even attending the concerts?

Seriously, you're the last one dying on this hill.
 

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I don’t remember any of the details of any sexual encounter I had up prior to turning 27 years old...






...I wonder why?
 

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How many times do you need it explained?

Safechuck simply didn't recall exactly when Jackson stopped molesting him. I've said that over and over again, and you just keep responding with "LOL TRAIN"

And get again, you just continually ignore that there are more accusers than you can count on one hand, he paid off more than one of them, they alleged abused in 3 different decades, the accusers are from at least 4 different countries, many have never met each other, at least 7 Jackson employees testified they saw abuse, one of them got a settlement specifically because he drew an accurate picture of Jackson's skin disease splotches on his genitals, Jackson had photos of naked children, and he admitted to sleeping in bed alone with them.

Explain why Terry George is lying, and what he has to gain. He has never sued, and is already rich.
Explain why Jordan Chandler drew the picture of Jackson's genitals so accurately that Jackson gave him 23 million dollars not to testify.
Explain why Michael Jacobshagen is lying, and what he has to gain. He has never sued.
Explain why Gavin Arvizo, the one everyone said was just after money, never actually sued for any money.
Explain why Star Arvio lied.
Explain why Jason Francia lied well enough to get a 2 million dollar settlement.
Explain why there was a naked photo of Jonathan Spence found, and why he left the country rather than testify.
Explain why Jackson employees (more than one, at different times) testified they saw Jackson abuse Robson decades before Robson admitted it?
Explain why a British journalist said he asked Jimmy Safechuck if he was being held against his will while Safechuck was on tour with Jackson, sleeping in Jackson's bed but not even attending the concerts?

Seriously, you're the last one dying on this hill.

We gone through all of this already...This is new stuff try again.
 

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We gone through all of this already...This is new stuff try again.
You never adequately answered any of those questions.

You dodge the obvious and focus on tiny details.

You won't actually do it because you're afraid of confronting the truth, but:
https://mjandboys.wordpress.com/michaeljacksonsyoungfriends/

Read the stories, many of which include photos and videos, about Jackson's friendships with this series of boys in succession. Some maintain to this day Jackson never abused them, some never defended him from the accusations, some defended him at first and accused him later. And there are more accusers not covered, including at least 5 whose names have never been released as well as Jason Francia, who got a huge cash settlement.

Look at the photos. He wasn't related to any of these little boys. Tell me this dude was on the up and up, you crazy fuckwit:
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Where's Michael's hand?

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13 year old boys are usually this familiar with unrelated adult males, right?

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Yep, nothing weird about this photo of Jackson with the same boy who they found a naked photo of at Jackson's house.

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This is totally how 12 year old boys interact with people who are "their friends"

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Totally not believable that this kid later accused that grown adult of molesting him.

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Totally makes sense that a global music star is travelling with this little boy and sleeping in a hotel bed with him instead of banging groupies 24/7.

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This is normal contact between a teenage boy and a grown man.

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16 year olds often sit in adult men's laps. Totally normal.
 

Lee_Rekka

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You never adequately answered any of those questions.

You dodge the obvious and focus on tiny details.

You won't actually do it because you're afraid of confronting the truth, but:
https://mjandboys.wordpress.com/michaeljacksonsyoungfriends/

Read the stories, many of which include photos and videos, about Jackson's friendships with this series of boys in succession. Some maintain to this day Jackson never abused them, some never defended him from the accusations, some defended him at first and accused him later. And there are more accusers not covered, including at least 5 whose names have never been released as well as Jason Francia, who got a huge cash settlement.

Look at the photos. He wasn't related to any of these little boys. Tell me this dude was on the up and up, you crazy fuckwit:
unbenannt4.png


Where's Michael's hand?

unbenannt-1.png


13 year old boys are usually this familiar with unrelated adult males, right?

mj-and-jonathan-spence1.png


Yep, nothing weird about this photo of Jackson with the same boy who they found a naked photo of at Jackson's house.

michael-with-jimmy-safechuck-as-gangsters1.jpg


This is totally how 12 year old boys interact with people who are "their friends"

michael_jackson1.jpg


Totally not believable that this kid later accused that grown adult of molesting him.

d1i6zkhwkaebtqy.jpg


Totally makes sense that a global music star is travelling with this little boy and sleeping in a hotel bed with him instead of banging groupies 24/7.

mj-disney-world-visit-1984-michael-jackson-7155833-331-500.jpg


This is normal contact between a teenage boy and a grown man.

b5d716afa581a4b2cc3d7e6f4628f0bd.jpg


16 year olds often sit in adult men's laps. Totally normal.

Why you have so many pictures of Michael Jackson with little boys is the real question.
 

fake

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16 year olds often sit in adult men's laps. Totally normal.

I am not familiar with this human, and maybe he has some medical problems, but he doesn't look like he's 16. He looks maybe half that. Not that it matters; it just struck me as odd.
 

evil wasabi

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It's crazy how Emanuel Lewis's twin brother, Daniel Day, got all the height and has had such a fantastic acting career. This of course was the basis of the movie Twins, starring Schwarzenegger and DeVito, but I digress.
 

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I wonder how long Fami and HDR can keep this going.
 

GohanX

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Probably until their steel cage match at Summerslam.
 
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