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    Bootleg?

    Has anyone ever seen a bootleg KOF 99? I just got mine today and it is in a see through yellow case. I can see 2 wires on the board going to a chip with a window in it. Is this normal for this game?
    Sometimes you just have to say what the fuck, you know?

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    A picture would be helpful, but remember to cover those eeprom windows.

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    Indeed. A quick cover up could save you some problems.

    Sounds a bit bootiful though....

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    2 wires going to a windowed ROM, bootleg.
    Are there other chips with MX on them?


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    Quote Originally Posted by lachlan
    2 wires going to a windowed ROM, bootleg.
    Are there other chips with MX on them?

    And that is why a picture would help out

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    Quote Originally Posted by lachlan
    2 wires going to a windowed ROM, bootleg.
    Not necessarily.

    Fatal Fury 3 MVS has a wire on it and many other carts including Gururin and Power Spikes 2 have capacitors connected to a chip on the board.
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    Your kof '99 should look like this if it's legit (251 [NGM] stamped on each chip, btw there're other revisions with different Neo-SMA chip, other with 4 EPs for Program ROMs and one without Neo-SMA but P1 and P2 stamped 151-P1 and 151-P2[instead of 251]) :




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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfamifreak
    Not necessarily.

    Fatal Fury 3 MVS has a wire on it and many other carts including Gururin and Power Spikes 2 have capacitors connected to a chip on the board.
    But he's talking about KOF'99.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lachlan
    But he's talking about KOF'99.
    But the basic point of my post was that just because there are EPROM's and wires on the cart, that doesn't make it a boot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfamifreak
    But the basic point of my post was that just because there are EPROM's and wires on the cart, that doesn't make it a boot.

    You are very correct. There is always Bust-a-Move. It has EPROMS as well.



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    Does MX chips means boot ?
    Cause my motw cart seems to have at least one (i've don't opened it, but
    i can see one through the openings of the cart)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfamifreak
    But the basic point of my post was that just because there are EPROM's and wires on the cart, that doesn't make it a boot.
    I'm referring to the wires, I know some carts have EPROMS and are legit, like my kof2k3.

    Quote Originally Posted by nagrom
    Does MX chips means boot ?
    Cause my motw cart seems to have at least one (i've don't opened it, but
    i can see one through the openings of the cart)...
    Usually a cartridge with MX chips means you've got a bootleg, just to be sure though, open the cart to look for other one's.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nagrom
    Does MX chips means boot ?
    Cause my motw cart seems to have at least one (i've don't opened it, but
    i can see one through the openings of the cart)...
    It shouldn't have any MX Flash... if your MotW is legit it should look like this (like kof '99, there 're revisions of MotW with 4 EPs for Program ROMs) :


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutation
    Your kof '99 should look like this if it's legit (251 [NGM] stamped on each chip, btw there're other revisions with different Neo-SMA chip, other with 4 EPs for Program ROMs and one without Neo-SMA but P1 and P2 stamped 151-P1 and 151-P2[instead of 251]) :



    My game looks identical to this except there is 1 additional chip on the top board in the 7th space. This is the chip with the 2 wires going to it. The 2 wires are coming from the chip right next to it. The chip does not have a window but the entire chip is covered in a clear plastic. Possible repair job or boot? BTW, my game plays fine but if you watch the into when it goes to high scores teh game resets itself, but this does not happen during game play.
    Sometimes you just have to say what the fuck, you know?

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    Are your progtop NEO-MVS PROGLBA (or PROGBK1 for the revision without Neo-SMA) and chassis NEO-MVS CHAFIO as on the screens ? If it's not, this means it's a conversion. But if it's, it may be a repaired stuff (the 2 wires going to the chip look weird).

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    If it's a repair job then why would they add another chip to the board? wouldn't they just replace the chip that went bad?


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    I have seen an authentic Last Blade with labeled eproms in P1, P2, EP1 and EP2 simultaneously while the rest were stamped 100% original stamped mask roms. Everything machine soldered, everything 100% authentic. Hey, it's SNK. "SNK" and "make sense" aren't really synonyms. They may have had smaller eproms in stock or something. Or two small eproms may have been cheaper than one big maybe. As long as the game works, there is nothing to worry about.

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    People are very quick to assume 'boot' just because they see eproms and wires, that metal slug boot thread is a class example. Check out this MOTW, its official, but im sure someone will show up just to state the contrary .

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    Yeah, I hear you man. The one in your pic is, as you say, 100% legit beyond any doubt at all. This is probably a similar repair job as my Last Blade was. Mine didn't have a wire as yours has but in this case that wire holds no significance at all whether the cart is legit or not. This one is legit, period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninja maestro
    This MotW 's legit, it's a revision with 4 EPs (for P's), there's a wire next to 253-EP4.
    I opened a revision with 4 EPs of MotW to see the diff, I also noticed there's a white mark on Neo-SMA chip which doesn't allow to read the revision of this chip (K_ [KE on Neo-SMA for MotW revision with 2 P's stamped 253-P1 and 253-P2]).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninja maestro
    People are very quick to assume 'boot' just because they see eproms and wires, that metal slug boot thread is a class example.
    What Metal Slug boot thread are you referring to? Not this, I hope, because that IS a bootleg and YOU were wrong.

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    I still disagree with that, I feel that YOU'RE wrong .

    But lets not get into that again though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutation
    Are your progtop NEO-MVS PROGLBA (or PROGBK1 for the revision without Neo-SMA) and chassis NEO-MVS CHAFIO as on the screens ? If it's not, this means it's a conversion. But if it's, it may be a repaired stuff (the 2 wires going to the chip look weird).
    All chips and both green board are identical (even the dates on the boards). The only difference is the extra chip.
    Sometimes you just have to say what the fuck, you know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crujones4life
    All chips and both green board are identical (even the dates on the boards). The only difference is the extra chip.
    Does it have 4 EPs for P's (251-EP1 to 251-EP4) ? Does it have bosses enabled (modif P1) ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutation
    Does it have 4 EPs for P's (251-EP1 to 251-EP4) ? Does it have bosses enabled (modif P1) ?

    No eproms. When I tried to select kyo-2 I got krizalid instead and when I tried to use him as a striker it did not work.
    Sometimes you just have to say what the fuck, you know?

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