The Big Scam (Part II)

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GamersAbyss

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Originally posted by bahamut:
<strong>Hello guys. I saw that my friend Nico posted here yesterday to say that I have been hacked. Unfortunately, that's a reality. So, I will only be able to post from my job office for the moment.
Please don't flame KS or anyone name for this action since I don't know who this action comes from.

I'm not sure to be able to save my all my hard disk drive data for the moment, but I'm working on this.

To give you some news on the situation, Ralph or Charles has not replied to any email from the beginning of the topic. Ebay confirmed me that they won't be able to refund me more than $200 and my bank can't do any opposition on the check I sent to Charles.

GamerAbyss, if you're ok, I will contact you in a few days to report you the actions I can realize from France. Perhaps you will be able to help me.

Ralph if you're reading this post, you're now warned that I'm officially beginning pursuit against you since I have contacted a friend of me who is a lawyer. I'm not looking for war, so if you give me some news for you in the following days, I'm ok to stop the processus.

Thanks again for the links and good advices some of you gave me.</strong><hr></blockquote>


When you need my help just e-mail me.
 

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Hey DUDES, i have got just a few apologize til yet!!! Were are YOU waiting for??? LMK.
 

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I'm just glad some of the bad blood is starting to clearing up around here. And be glad for the fact that there are people like GamersAbyss around to help iron out the situation.
 

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Hi Chris,

Just give the information to the forum without be angry.

I have found this post where you were talking about the MS1 auction.

<a href="http://www.neo-geo.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=002931" target="_blank">http://www.neo-geo.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=002931</a>

How do you know that the cart was a fake ?!?

Thanks to answer.
 

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Hi dralair,

if i ask someone a question, like i´ve done to "snkadorer", and get NO answer after a couples of emails, then sometimes i call them a FAKER.
Even some friends of me, have sent "snkadorer" lots of emails, but noone, even me, have got an answer til yet. That´s what i´ve told Laurent aka Bahamut too, nothing else.
Further probz??? :rolleyes:
 

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BTW "dralair aka Loic",

ask "Bahamut aka Laurent Astoin" about it.

First YOU both wanted an US MS1 i´ve offered, but i´ve traded that game to another ONE, for an offer, i couldn´t denied!!!
Fact is, that i haven´t another US MS1, so i´ve bidden on that auction like Bahamut too.
I lost against him, the last 2 seconds. These are real facts...YOU know that.
And now, YOU both should leave me alone, even YOUR holy friend "charmane"...

Let´s stop these NEVERENDiNG KiDDiE-WAR.

OK? GOOD!!! :cool:

[ April 08, 2002: Message edited by: CHRiZ-77 ]</p>
 

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Are you not friends with Kyo Star Chriz? Didn't you know he had that whack item in his collection?

Maybe it was the language barrier, but it sounded like you were trying to hide something and you weren't trying to deny ANYTHING when you first started defending yourself. That is why people jumped all over you, so no apology is really needed. Chalk it up to a simple case of miscommunication and move on.
 

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Originally posted by FeelGood:
1.) Maybe it was the language barrier, but it sounded like you were trying to hide something and you weren't trying to deny ANYTHING when you first started defending yourself.

2.) That is why people jumped all over you, so no apology is really needed. Chalk it up to a simple case of miscommunication and move on.<hr></blockquote>

1.) Maybe it was the language barrier. Don´t know.

2.) Yea, that´s what i´ll do, but i´ve keept some of the "Jumping on a Gun-Guys" in my mind. :)
 

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Originally posted by BRANDI:
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That was a SCAM... maybe someone went beyond the limits, but that doesn't change the gravity of the situation... <img src="graemlins/annoyed.gif" border="0" alt="[Annoyed]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Oh I know it was a scam. I'm not debating that issue nor do I condone it. I guess I'm just laughing on the inside because if this has been Dion or Chris, a lot of you wouldn't have been out for blood as much as you are now.

I guess with the Duo we've gotten used to it but with a guy like Ralph who even tho I've bumped heads with on a few occasions I ended up respecting his opinoin.

What he's done or should I say how he's gone about dealing with this is foolish. I'm not here to judge on the guy because I don't know him.

What he's done is pretty much burn a bridge and I honestly wish he had gone about this differently.

Either way, I wash my hands of this entire debate. I was out of it before when it all started and I'm out of it now.... :cool:

[ April 08, 2002: Message edited by: BonusKun ]</p>
 

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From another thread:
Originally posted by CHRiZ-77:
<strong>A FRiEND OF ME SOLD TWO OF THEM A FEW DAYS AGO...

THERE ALSO WAS ONE ON EBAY, BUT THAT WAS A FAKER!!! :D </strong><hr></blockquote>

What this tells me is that Chriz-77 did not know who the eBay seller was, so all this does is help with what he has been telling us all along: He did not know that snkadorer is (supposedly at least) Kyokugen Star's father. And who would honestly know that, especially since you look at snkadorer's feedback and see Kyokugen Disciple.

Luckily, it seems that people are getting off Chriz-77's back, since before we labeled him as guilty by association, not because of any facts.

PS: Let the insanity continue. :rolleyes:
 

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kyokugen.gif


I don't know him but he came here to the forums and proudly admitted guilt to his SCAM therefore he is now FAMOUS.
Would also like to apologize to CHRiZ-77 who is not guilty of being in on the scam...however I find him guilty for being "totally clueless" even making me more ashamed of myself :-D
-BB

[ April 08, 2002: Message edited by: BIG BEAR ]</p>
 

CHRiZ-77

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Originally posted by Eric:
From another thread:


What this tells me is that Chriz-77 did not know who the eBay seller was, so all this does is help with what he has been telling us all along: He did not know that snkadorer is (supposedly at least) Kyokugen Star's father. And who would honestly know that, especially since you look at snkadorer's feedback and see Kyokugen Disciple.

Luckily, it seems that people are getting off Chriz-77's back, since before we labeled him as guilty by association, not because of any facts.

PS: Let the insanity continue. :rolleyes: <hr></blockquote>

TRUE WORDS BUDDY!!! :)
 
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I havent been here on these forums for quite a while!

Took quite some time to read all this stuff (21 pages at Nr. 1 and now 5 pages at number 2)

But now - with out sheltering or condemning anybody but all of you - you have all done your best do make the Neo community a "rivalry" with everyone waiting for the best "rip-off"-deals.

A look at famous "Price Guide" - which let me puke all over the screen - is the perfect proof.

I remember those days - not long ago, maybe 4 years - when almost nobody was aware of how common or rare their carts actually are. Those were the days of reasonable prices. I was offered a MS1 US for only 700 DM at 1998 (too bad I did not have the money), but now only 4 years later 2000 $, no Deutsch Marks, but fucking US Dollars!

Most people in here have done their best to get those games´ prices right were they are now. At unreasonable overdone stats.

A close look at the selling forums shows anyday, how insane you are, asking 200$ + for a simple Neo AES homesystem. 3 years ago I got a complete boxed system for 200 DM, and that´s right their price should have stayed. Especially in the past 6 years the dollar´s value has risen far too high compared to the DM or the - IMO totally shitty - EU. That give´s the US "Community-companions" around even a bigger advantage, since importing, exchange, etc. is also a pain in the ass. The Dollar should have stayed at 1,34 Deutschmarks, that´s how it should be eternally.

And this Forum show me anyday, that "Rip-off-fucktards", Bootleggers or not, are a widespread here, and that´s why I - like many other Neo Fans, who can not take this shit - (almost) turned our backs on this forum. And most people in this forum seems to have way too much money, otherwise the nobody would pay those rediculous prices shown at the "price guide".

Because with the help of this forum, the Neo is unfortunatly turning to a "bourgeois only"-shit, just as I always say. And anybody - reliable or not is always there when a could rip off deal could be made, no exception. The idea of the Neo seems no more to be the consuming idea, but the idea of giving it more at more value as the items actually have to let them become a "symbol of your status". And that´s not what they were made for. They were made to enjoy, not for envy.

KS is a "greedy collector" as far as I know, but I think many of you are of the same caliber and are not allowed to throw any stone, which could be reppeled right back at you.


To Kyukugen Star: Ralph if this is true, please do the refund. This is really not worth it. In fact this is really criminal, since this could be easily taken to the court as a swindle!

To Evil Wasabi: It is not "benefit of doubt"! It is called "In dubio pro reo". And now the ones who understand this Latin sentence should leave Chriz_77 alone.

To Blaine: Nice to see your old sig back (nice chick)

To Big Bear and Drift King Ex: For that sigs you should be banned temporarily and your sigs should be locked and erased. That´s the same shit I did with Fran and got banned for by Shawn.

To end this post I once more remind all.

Community; this word is based on "Communism"! The fact that this here is based on the American idea of competition and free market makes this here nothing more than a "Rivalry". You should definetly think about that!

[ April 12, 2002: Message edited by: the_move ]</p>
 
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And don´t come with excuses! <img src="graemlins/shame.gif" border="0" alt="[Shame]" /> <img src="graemlins/shame.gif" border="0" alt="[Shame]" /> <img src="graemlins/shame.gif" border="0" alt="[Shame]" />
 

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we needed your last post

thanks


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CHRiZ-77

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Originally posted by the_move:
KS is a "greedy collector" as far as I know, but I think many of you are of the same caliber and are not allowed to throw any stone, which could be reppeled right back at you.


1.) To Kyukugen Star: Ralph if this is true, please do the refund. This is really not worth it. In fact this is really criminal, since this could be easily taken to the court as a swindle!

2.) To Blaine: Nice to see your old sig back (nice chick)

3.) To Big Bear and Drift King Ex: For that sigs you should be banned temporarily and your sigs should be locked and erased. That´s the same shit I did with Fran and got banned for by Shawn.

4.) Community; this word is based on "Communism"! The fact that this here is based on the American idea of competition and free market makes this here nothing more than a "Rivalry". You should definetly think about that!
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Hey Steven, great that you´re back!!!

1.) Ralph, make the refund. Do yourself this favor.

2.) Yeah, great sig...

3.) So it is, SHAWN!!!

4.) TRUE WORDS STEVEN!!! <img src="graemlins/ohno.gif" border="0" alt="[Oh No]" />
 

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Originally posted by the_move:
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To Evil Wasabi: It is not "benefit of doubt"! It is called "In dubio pro reo". And now the ones who understand this Latin sentence should leave Chriz_77 alone.
</strong><hr></blockquote>

I will refrain from further accusation, of course, but know you well that there will almost always be doubt and so you must go with your gut.
 
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Originally posted by Fran:
<strong>we needed your last post

thanks


<img src="graemlins/mrt2.gif" border="0" alt="[Mr T]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Sure, you´ll never get rid of me! Hehe!

Peace! I have no more interest in struggling with you. I got enough other things to worry about! :(
 
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Originally posted by EvilWasabi:
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I will refrain from further accusation, of course, but know you well that there will almost always be doubt and so you must go with your gut.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yes, but it is neither my nor your job to judge about this!
 

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on the contrary, in saying that it is not my job to judge, you have judged, and we all must judge for ourselves, if not for others, how we will interact with others, how we will deal with them.

Will you deal with KS until he refunds Laurent?

[yes] [no]

if you said yes, you have judged. If you said no, you have judged.

So let's stop this bulshit about "you have no right to judge" or "you shouldn't judge" because neither of us are mindless slaves, bred never to think on our own. We think, and therefore we judge.

I will not do business with Ralph Karels unless the most delicate care is taken. That is my judgement on the matter. As for Chris, I'll leave that as a communication problem with Babelfish, as he later on agreed that Ralph did something really bad.
 

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Why do you want them to close every thread? <img src="graemlins/spock.gif" border="0" alt="[Spock]" /> <img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" />
 

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Originally posted by EvilWasabi:
Why do you want them to close every thread? <img src="graemlins/spock.gif" border="0" alt="[Spock]" /> <img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" /> <hr></blockquote>

They´ll never close a thread in the WARROOM!!!

This seems to be a "Neverending-Thread!!!"
 

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Originally posted by CHRiZ-77:
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They´ll never close a thread in the WARROOM!!!

This seems to be a "Neverending-Thread!!!"</strong><hr></blockquote>

Nah - it was good that it was open this long, as Steven got to post his thoughts without opening a new thread.
 
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