The Big Scam (Part II)

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Takumaji

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What's more, there's an interesting feedback in snkadorer's history, from eBay ID kyokugen-disciple

'Nuff said.

[ April 06, 2002: Message edited by: Takumaji ]</p>
 

Eric

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Originally posted by Daisuke Jigen:
<strong>Why has no one mentioned the fact that Kyokugens father has the eBay ID "SNKadorer"?

He obviously knows a little about SNK, and in all likelyhood, NEO GEO.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Sorry if someone pointed this out already, but I'm not about to wade through 500+ posts to find out if someone has.

But...Take a look at SNKadorer's (Kyokugen's father's) feedback on eBay. The very first one is positive feedback from Kyokugen Disciple AKA Kyokugen Star

Now, the fact that anyone would buy something from their dad using eBay seems a little strange to me.

I guess I'll let others draw their own conclusions from this.

Edit: Whoops, someone beat me to this in the post right before mine.

[ April 06, 2002: Message edited by: Eric ]</p>
 

Dampfwalze

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Originally posted by EvilWasabi:
<strong>Not many people actually backed any measures to blacklist all Germans, and not all Germans are talking out against Ralph. Seems like most are taking the back seat.

The fact you condemn Ralph for his crime separates you from certain other folk.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Woa, hey! Slow down please!
So every german BBS member is obliged to speak
against KS?
Is every american obliged to speak against NGF
also?

So to avoid being banned for not speaking out
loud, here are my credos:

1. I hate ROMs only gamer! (also known as Pirates)

2. I hate freaked NG games and I'd never buy a
freaked cart or CD. (Nor any other carts
that are altered from the original status)

3. I definetly condemn people that defraud buyers
(with "defraud" I mean ripping people off their
hard earned money, hope "defraud" is the right
word)

4. I also hate those, that put people into one
bag, only because they have the same nationality.
We define ourselves by our deeds, not by the
name of the country written on our ID cards.

So KS, if you are reading this: please clear
things up with Bahamut. I had a good deal once
with you and so had many others, I think.
It would be a shame to kill your reputation by
not trying to find a solution with Bahamut.
I'd be pissed too, if I had payed so much money
for a converted cart. Don't get on the same low
level like the ones that ripped you off your
money once (you mentioned, that it happened to you
too).
If there was no intention that bidders may
mistake the conversion with the original,
than be cool and refund the guy.
But if you had the intention that someone
mistakes it with the original home cart, than
you have to life with the consequences, I guess.

Would be a shame though. :(
 

Lita_Rulez

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Hello all

I am new on this board, as a matter of fact I have just completed my inscription form.

I did not intend to come here and say what I think about that scam, for most of what I have to say has been said left or right.

But here comes a piece of news every one should know :

I HAVE JUST SPOKEN TO BAHAMUT ON THE PHONE, HIS COMPUTER HAS BEEN HACKED AN HOUR OR SO AGO...

IF ANY OF YOU STILL HAD ANY DOUBTS ABOUT KS AND HIS "INTEGRITY" THINK AGAIN !!!
 

GamersAbyss

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Ok easy on the Germans here folks....LOL. I am 100% German and my Grandparents are from the old country. I think it would be safe to say most Germans are hard working honest people.

May I ask one of my fellow Germans a favor? I would like the phone number to the local police in KS's area. If just one person could do that for me I would appreciate it. Thanks :)
 

Adol

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What!?
What do you mean hacked?

L'enculé de sa mère..
Oh for your info EvilWasabi I read in the whole thread you asked why I hosted the pics of bahamut.
He had nowhere to host them so i propsoed him to host them, that's all, I have nothing to do with this deal whatsoever.
I've been ripped off a MS1 by a jap guy though (sent 80000 yens summer 2000, never got the cart), and by a german guy (! :) for a Metal Slug 1 CD on Ebay: I bought for about $150 a BRAND NEW JAP MS1 ( I collect BRAND NEW Neo Cds lastly ) and received a used without spine card US MS1...
I've been ripped off $8-10k on the net since the start.
That gives to think about.
 

GamersAbyss

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Originally posted by Lita_Rulez:
<strong>Hello all

I am new on this board, as a matter of fact I have just completed my inscription form.

I did not intend to come here and say what I think about that scam, for most of what I have to say has been said left or right.

But here comes a piece of news every one should know :

I HAVE JUST SPOKEN TO BAHAMUT ON THE PHONE, HIS COMPUTER HAS BEEN HACKED AN HOUR OR SO AGO...

IF ANY OF YOU STILL HAD ANY DOUBTS ABOUT KS AND HIS "INTEGRITY" THINK AGAIN !!!</strong><hr></blockquote>

Very uncool!! Please tell me he made back ups of all of the needed files he will have to have as proof? :(
 

Lita_Rulez

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Adol I don't know how well you know bahamut, but if you are the guy I'm thinking of, you have my cell phone number (he gave it to you a few weeks back during the hollidays)
call me up I'll fill you in.

Otherwise, post here, I'll give you details.

en tout cas, je passe le voir demain pour vérifier tout ce bordel...
 

GamersAbyss

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Originally posted by Lita_Rulez:
<strong>I did not ask him about the backup files...

the line is busy now...</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well hopefully he can weed out the hack with his anti-virus. This story just gets worse with every post. Steal a guys 1600 then hack his computer. There wouldnt be a big enough rock to hide under. <img src="graemlins/ohno.gif" border="0" alt="[Oh No]" />
 
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Caris Nautilus

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Originally posted by Eric:
<strong>

Sorry if someone pointed this out already, but I'm not about to wade through 500+ posts to find out if someone has.

But...Take a look at SNKadorer's (Kyokugen's father's) feedback on eBay. The very first one is positive feedback from Kyokugen Disciple AKA Kyokugen Star

Now, the fact that anyone would buy something from their dad using eBay seems a little strange to me.

I guess I'll let others draw their own conclusions from this.

Edit: Whoops, someone beat me to this in the post right before mine.

[ April 06, 2002: Message edited by: Eric ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well most scammers nowdays have a couple fake ebay accounts, so they can bid on their onw shit, take dion for example, he has his dkd4 name, the ngf name, prada, and then chris ray has various fake accounts.

The dad story is probably just a line, or a made up identity he uses. The skeletons are all coming out.

[ April 06, 2002: Message edited by: Drift King EX ]</p>
 

BIG BEAR

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Uhhh,I just read through this newly started thread and I read some comments made about the "blacklist" that I threatened to pose..
I stated that something needed to be done because it appeared to me that people who live in that specific part of the world were coming to the defense of KS even after he admitted ripping bahamut off. I AM NOT CONDEMNING GERMAN PEOPLE...let's not get it fucked up okay.. All I suggested was an idea...OUT OF 500 plus posts you can count on 1 hand the # of ideas proposed...
Ideas that will hopefully lead to a solution..
This type of theft is serious and if it's not dealt with swiftly,copycat behavior is highly likely...
Uhhh,it's not about a "crusade",it's about "giving a damn" and tossing out some ideas to hopefully force this moron to return the money...
If you have something to say to me..whoever it may be ADDRESS ME! Shut Up? This is a public forum...the initial started was looking for opinions and ideas..HE GOT WHAT HE ASKED FOR...
If someone burned your ass for 1600 you'd be happy somebody was unselfishly starting a CRUSADE for justice on your behalf!
You guys think it's a bad idea..fine but I am glad to see more members who live in that area condemn the actions of KS...
If my comments raised any eyebrows,then that's half the battle!!
After a person admits to "wrong doing" there is no defense...
-BB
 

BIG BEAR

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Originally posted by Drift King EX:
<strong>Kyokugen Star is on the boards rigt now, hehe.</strong><hr></blockquote>

If that dickhead does'nt return the money i will create a FAQ on his ass and spread throughout the internet!! he is an embarrASSment to this community!!
Sometime the good people get caught up in the actions of bad people... they'll only have KS to thank...
-BB
 

Lita_Rulez

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Originally posted by GamersAbyss:
<strong>

Well hopefully he can weed out the hack with his anti-virus. This story just gets worse with every post. Steal a guys 1600 then hack his computer. There wouldnt be a big enough rock to hide under. <img src="graemlins/ohno.gif" border="0" alt="[Oh No]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Nothing to do with the post quoted over here, but I wanted to talk to you and didn't feel like finding another one of your posts...

have just been through the 20 some pages of the thread, and 4 things seem very very unsetling to me (and funily enough, they are all about Chris77) :

1. Overbiding one's self ?

I can see why you would overbid yourself for the last auction, caughing out the max amount you would pay for the item 10 seconds before the end of the auction, just to be sure that no one overbids you with 10 bucks...
I would not do it, but I can understand it.
But, if as he claims he did, he did it for this reason, why in the world would he evoerbid himself 2 days before, and only for 25 bucks ????

2. Flaming and cursing and SHOUTING ?

I actually LMAO loocking at the picture of the keyboard circling out the CAPS LOCK key... but why in the world is the man cursing and shouting instead of plain-saying that he was duped as well
as bahamut was ?

Then, although I think the guy's name spells Llama, I do have 2 things to say for his defence :

3. Asking KS to give the money back ?

The guy actually has done so on the forum... twice !
Only he did in german...
But why in gods' name did he do it in german ?
Doing so in english would probably have cooled down a lot of those flaming him...

4. The whole speach he did in german :

Well actually, he does not threaten you nor anyone.
He just spills his guts about the situation, and basically says that all who jumped him for noreason whatsoever are sory beeings, and that there will come a time when the righteous ones will be known for what they are, and the wrongdoers will pay for their acts; and he is allready smiling to himself, thinking of that day.

But then again, why is the post that actually sound sane and looks like he didn't do anything wrong in german ?

Sometimes, I realy don't understand people around here...
Do the words logic and inteligence mean anything anymore ?
 

NipRing

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Originally posted by Lita_Rulez:
<strong>

Nothing to do with the post quoted over here, but I wanted to talk to you and didn't feel like finding another one of your posts...

have just been through the 20 some pages of the thread, and 4 things seem very very unsetling to me (and funily enough, they are all about Chris77) :

1. Overbiding one's self ?

I can see why you would overbid yourself for the last auction, caughing out the max amount you would pay for the item 10 seconds before the end of the auction, just to be sure that no one overbids you with 10 bucks...
I would not do it, but I can understand it.
But, if as he claims he did, he did it for this reason, why in the world would he evoerbid himself 2 days before, and only for 25 bucks ????

2. Flaming and cursing and SHOUTING ?

I actually LMAO loocking at the picture of the keyboard circling out the CAPS LOCK key... but why in the world is the man cursing and shouting instead of plain-saying that he was duped as well
as bahamut was ?

Then, although I think the guy's name spells Llama, I do have 2 things to say for his defence :

3. Asking KS to give the money back ?

The guy actually has done so on the forum... twice !
Only he did in german...
But why in gods' name did he do it in german ?
Doing so in english would probably have cooled down a lot of those flaming him...

4. The whole speach he did in german :

Well actually, he does not threaten you nor anyone.
He just spills his guts about the situation, and basically says that all who jumped him for noreason whatsoever are sory beeings, and that there will come a time when the righteous ones will be known for what they are, and the wrongdoers will pay for their acts; and he is allready smiling to himself, thinking of that day.

But then again, why is the post that actually sound sane and looks like he didn't do anything wrong in german ?

Sometimes, I realy don't understand people around here...
Do the words logic and inteligence mean anything anymore ?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Just one side question for you? Is this your only ID in here? You only have 5 posts, said you have just completed your " inscription form", yet you said "Sometimes, I realy don't understand people around here..." Which makes me wonder, just how long have you been "around here", if these are only your first posts???

<img src="graemlins/spock.gif" border="0" alt="[Spock]" />
 
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Caris Nautilus

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Originally posted by The Collector:
<strong>

Just one side question for you? Is this your only ID in here? You only have 5 posts, said you have just completed your " inscription form", yet you said "Sometimes, I realy don't understand people around here..." Which makes me wonder, just how long have you been "around here", if these are only your first posts???

<img src="graemlins/spock.gif" border="0" alt="[Spock]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>


hehe, funny we have new accounts poping up that have so much to say on this matter...
 

CHRiZ-77

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It´s definately funny, how everybody tries to flame me...I´ll praise YOU!!!
As i can see, some NEWBEE´s have flammed me too, but that´s equal, course most of them haven´t reached the AGE of 19!!!
CHRiZ-77, "KS Partner in Crime" or "Bootlegger Groupie" are just redicolous and starts to amazed me...
 

Liquid Snake

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1) We have a lot of "split personality" type people in here lately.

2) some members just don't want to use their "real" ID when posting coz they're afraid of trouble in the future

3) To Chriz_77, you really mess yourself...sigh...
 

GamersAbyss

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Originally posted by Lita_Rulez:
<strong>

Nothing to do with the post quoted over here, but I wanted to talk to you and didn't feel like finding another one of your posts...

have just been through the 20 some pages of the thread, and 4 things seem very very unsetling to me (and funily enough, they are all about Chris77) :

1. Overbiding one's self ?

I can see why you would overbid yourself for the last auction, caughing out the max amount you would pay for the item 10 seconds before the end of the auction, just to be sure that no one overbids you with 10 bucks...
I would not do it, but I can understand it.
But, if as he claims he did, he did it for this reason, why in the world would he evoerbid himself 2 days before, and only for 25 bucks ????

2. Flaming and cursing and SHOUTING ?

I actually LMAO loocking at the picture of the keyboard circling out the CAPS LOCK key... but why in the world is the man cursing and shouting instead of plain-saying that he was duped as well
as bahamut was ?

Then, although I think the guy's name spells Llama, I do have 2 things to say for his defence :

3. Asking KS to give the money back ?

The guy actually has done so on the forum... twice !
Only he did in german...
But why in gods' name did he do it in german ?
Doing so in english would probably have cooled down a lot of those flaming him...

4. The whole speach he did in german :

Well actually, he does not threaten you nor anyone.
He just spills his guts about the situation, and basically says that all who jumped him for noreason whatsoever are sory beeings, and that there will come a time when the righteous ones will be known for what they are, and the wrongdoers will pay for their acts; and he is allready smiling to himself, thinking of that day.

But then again, why is the post that actually sound sane and looks like he didn't do anything wrong in german ?

Sometimes, I realy don't understand people around here...
Do the words logic and inteligence mean anything anymore ?</strong><hr></blockquote>

I completely understand where you are coming from. If someone acusses you of something as serious as this situation is my first reaction would probably be anger too but for the good of my business reputation I would absolutly and possitivly state my case in the most professional manner possible.

ChriZ-77 may very well be completely innocent of shill bidding for KS but he has to take into consideration the facts. He was the second highest bidder, they are friends and if he really wanted this game knowing KS from personal deals in the past, why did he not just e-mail him and say hey I will give you so and so and such and such to cancel the auction and you can even save yourself some ebay fee's?

Thats what I would have done. Instead of clearing this up and simple just stating "KS should give him his money back, I bid because I wanted it to" he could have saved himself alot of finger pointing. Instead we got to hear about his Kick Boxing skills and his connections to Gang Warfare which I couldnt help but snicker about because I personally feel cowards run in packs :)

If you are going to play the wounded part play it like your wounded and not busted.
 

BRANDI

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Originally posted by BioMotor_Unitron:
<strong>Or perhaps both accounts belong to KS?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Now that seems clear enough...
The SNKadorer is the dirty account, while Kyokugen_disciple is the clean one...

A well orchestraded scam...
 

waku7

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2) some members just don't want to use their "real" ID when posting coz they're afraid of trouble in the future

pffff!!!
trouble in the future!
L O L.

pathetic.
"i don't want problem in the future if i defend ..."
what the fuck.
one touch of brave please.

If you cannot say loud that you think, you can go to hell...


if laurent had been hacked :)
KS must be very proud!
KS is a son of the devil.
hahaha

KS is so amazing.
HIS OLD firend tell that he didn't know he was so ANGRY.

stop the coke KS pleaaaasseee :)
 
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Hakkun

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Originally posted by Lita_Rulez:
<strong>Hello all

I am new on this board, as a matter of fact I have just completed my inscription form.

I did not intend to come here and say what I think about that scam, for most of what I have to say has been said left or right.

But here comes a piece of news every one should know :

I HAVE JUST SPOKEN TO BAHAMUT ON THE PHONE, HIS COMPUTER HAS BEEN HACKED AN HOUR OR SO AGO...

IF ANY OF YOU STILL HAD ANY DOUBTS ABOUT KS AND HIS "INTEGRITY" THINK AGAIN !!!</strong><hr></blockquote>

COME ON! Stop these bulls! Do you have any proof? If not, I repeat, stop the bulls!

KS can be guilty but too many person talked having no idea of what was going on... acting like a "positive" member of these forums...
 
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