The majority of ChrisR's post was either a rehash of earlier arguments or completely hole-ridden argumentation. However, I will get a kick out of blasting holes through this stuff:
chrisr said:
If a highly acclaimed international law firm didnt want to go to trial against 2 people with no legal experience, that says it all right there?
"Highly Acclaimed"... Okay, hate to burst your bubble (or SNK-P's, for that matter), but that law firm they used is not very impressive. With that said, they're competent since they got themselves a golden noose.
What does that mean?
Well, I'll flesh it out some more for our readers, assuming most haven't gone to trial on something like this, here's info on basic legal economics:
- Dion and Chris are two relatively small time crooks (see NGF Bible)
- Lawsuits cost a lot of money, but the real lion's share of costs are when it actually goes to trial (this case did not).
- When you reach a certain point in the Pre-Trial phase, the firm tells the client how much they think going to trial will cost, versus what they could (even in the best case scenario) get from their opponents.
- Now it doesn't take a genius to figure out that ChrisR/Dion/NGF isn't really worth that much in relative terms to SNK-P. So spending the money of actually going to trial would probably be more than anything they'd win. Funny, I know, but that's how this crazy legal system works.
- What do you do if you're faced with this kind of economic decision? Well, lets step into the shoes of SNK-P: Your attorneys tell you. "Hey, we can get these two (who are representing themselves and know no better) to sign a permanent injunction that will let us simply drag them to court in violation of an injunction if they ever sell infringing items again." (if you haven't guessed, if you violate an injunction like the one that NGF signed, it skips a lot of the expensive steps and streamlines the whole process).
- SNK-P get's NGF to sign the injunction. What does that mean? Well, NGF can sell its normal, uninfringed items (and I'm not doubting they have some, other popular sellers have bought their stock), but the next time they
ever get the inkling to do a "corrected" insert or a converted game that never existed (in a particular format)... WHAM: down comes the hammer. Thus, that is how SNK-P has a leash on NGF.
chrisr said:
Again, the case is dismissed. We could have easily run this case out for the next year and gone to trial, but to what end?
To what end? that's exactly what SNK-P said: We have two people hardle worth the court costs we'd expend to nail, so we'll just get them to sign a piece of legally binding paper that will keep them in line.
chrisr said:
We would have been vindicated and still had the rights....
See, ChrisR is playing with two matters here:
(1) He does have the rights to sell the uninfringed games he and Dion possess, that's a given. That's the fact he keeps pointing to when he says "rights".
(2) He does not have the rights to sell infringing games, that's what NGF is notorious for, that is why they were dragged into court. Those are the games
not on the permission list in the injunction.
He constantly points to number one, but that right was never called into question: He's playing the old bait-n-switch
chrisr said:
Big deal. With the way it was worked, we were still vindicated, AND moved the rights back to Playmore. It all adds up to a bitter pill for you, and another opportunity to use the obvious - NGF-PRA.
Again, his term "vindicated" refers to the obvious right I noted above as (1). Remember, (2) above is what this was all about. The NGF Bible was created as a record of their former antics for posterity.
The case is dismissed, the Permanent Injunction is all they wanted. You believe what you want, but they now have your number if you and Dion ever go back to your Community publicized antics.
chrisr said:
Its your own fault. If everyone would have beleived from day 1 about our rights, you could have saved Playmore MUCH money.
On a side note, why not ask Joe how much stock I have left last time he was at my house? I have none.
Ask a certain website owner promoting SNK and Capcom how much stock Dion has left? none.
All irrelevant:
What other sellers/resellers do is up to other sellers. What stock you have is irrelevant to the issues of the case. If you decide to buy and sell more games, untouched, you can. If you go back to the old "Corrected inserts" and "Ultra rare" games... well that's another story.
chrisr said:
Well, duh: You lost.
chrisr said:
Back in the hey day, as anyone involved in the times that are alluded to in the NGF Bible will note, you guys were all about the competition. But now your nothing, just like your product.
I have nothing to sell, so of course I have no product. The NGF Bible wasn't even created by me: it was created by the hordes of others you two scammed. It's a pain for you two, I know, but since you have no more stock, this should all be moot for you two (unless you really think your pride is in any way being vindicated here).
If you have no stock, why do you keep coming back? To help us batter your already non-existent reputation even more? This thread is actually going to be a reference point for whoever else comes asking about you two. They can see exactly how easy it is to pick apart your argument in favor of the truth: you both have a history of bad dealing and counterfeit products.
chrisr said:
NGF isnt trying to sell neo geo games. We have already sold more games than any retailer in the history of the neo geo. Game over. The stock is gone, what is left but the new titles? Others can carry the torch that NGF lit years ago, with our blessing. Maybe one day the circle of life will complete and Playmore will go bankrupt and we will liquidate them?
Thanks,
ChrisR
Okay readers, that statement is classic NGF: Say something wholly unsubstantiated and hysterical. That's how they used top operate: They talk down to everyone with some mental complext that they are worth a damn. Well, as everyone here can now see, they're not. No one is (save for maybe E. Kawasaki himself for supporting the NG for so long).
This last paragraph really ices the cake on the personae of the NGF duo: Lots of talk, infringing items that got them in court, now just talk.
The Neo Community won.