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    Well I guess this post is now completely off track now. I'll start another post when I get replies from all the people I've contacted about their neo piracy.
    http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=82025

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    [quote]Originally posted by gunrock46:
    <strong>On a side note. Any lawyer here know if threatening to beat somebody up or kill them over the web has any legal bearing in the real world?????</strong><hr></blockquote>

    I'm not a lawyer (yet), but I've done research in that area and it usually only works if the threatened person feels imminent harm -that is you actually think the other person is going to go out of their way to come and get you.

    This is measure off of the standard of what a Reasonably Prudent Person would think in the exact same situation.

    You could go for Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress, but that rarely works unless you have some kind of physical reaction (you start puking, loosing weight, insomnia -something that is long term and medically provable).

    These are a few of your options. It's tricky to get it done, but it has been done before. In fact, I believe Biomotor has had someone thrown in the slammer before based on email evidence (or was it a phone call?). In that situation, it boiled down to an imminent physical threat.

    Does that help?

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    [quote]Originally posted by Bobak:
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    In fact, I believe Biomotor has had someone thrown in the slammer before based on email evidence (or was it a phone call?). In that situation, it boiled down to an imminent physical threat.

    Does that help?

    [ November 11, 2002: Message edited by: Bobak ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

    I'd love to hear Biomotor's story on what happened. Wanna share Bio???
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    [quote]Originally posted by rugal2000:
    What is it with NGF , unless you make threats about how they are the antichrist, all of a sudden you get accused of "making excuses" for them.<hr></blockquote>

    People who have been around the Neo scene for a long time (like me) know better. We have seen the guys behind NGF do all sorts of nasty, shifty, questionable, and shady things to people for no reason whatsoever. People like us, and the more recent veterans that have been screwed by them over the last one or two years are doing nothing more than warning newbies about their bad practices in hopes that we can eliminate the riff raff.

    If someone with any level of credibility in this scene was to actually support NGF, then some people would start to sing a different tune. Instead, you get total strangers (or imaginary ones) pretending to be "satisfied customers". This doesn't help them in redeeming themselves over the years of fucking up.

    That's why people speak of NGF as the "anti-christ"... that's ALSO why people who blindly support him (or got lucky on one transaction) are usually flamed. For EVERYONE that deals with NGF will eventually get screwed. It happens everytime, and quite frankly I get sick and tired of hearing another story about it.

    [quote]If youre the wrestling fan U profess to be,<hr></blockquote>

    Well, like I said before... this was a LONG time ago. Back when WCW was still in business, when George "The Animal" Steele was chasing Elizabeth, when the WWE didn't "Get the F Out", when The Ultimate Warrior was still known as The Dingo Warrior back on WCCW, and when the Fleet Center was still the Boston Garden. A LONG time ago...

    [quote]youll understand I said Dion was the real life inspiration for Shawn michaels and Big daddy cool diesel,.....<hr></blockquote>

    Doubt it... even back when I watched professional wrestling every week, you still had people whose characters were "larger than life". Or did you forget about people like "Classie" Freddie Blassie, Ric Flair (before the WWF), or even Jesse "The Body" Ventura?

    If anything, Dion mirrors his lifestyle on others. Why else would he name his imaginary company after an already established Japanese Magazine after they folded, and adopt the term "big tymer" after a rap group named themselves the same thing?

    He's an imitator... not an innovator.

    [quote]Vinylboy.....my point was Dion really lives in Vegas,the photographs are really him,.....I only said that, cos some people have insinuated that Dion is really a pencil necked 35 year old geek living in Wisconsin with his parents,and that the "dion Dakis" "big Tymer" persona is a fake....So I cant make sense of your reply, as its got nothing to do with what i said in the 1st place!!!<hr></blockquote>

    I never assumed that... you can tell by the photos he does post that he does try to "live the life". However, coming from a person that have seen many people "fake the funk" many of times with photos and such, I know that Dion isn't "livin' la vida loca". Anyone can take a few pictures with friends in front of an expensive car or with two really cute girls with large breasts and pretend that they're hanging with them... or even take a photo with a star and pretend that he's their best friend. I'm IN the music business and see that stuff everyday! And those that try too hard to prove their own "greatness" usually don't have a life worth bragging about in the first place.

    There's a saying I was told a LONG time ago... "those that truly have, don't need to show it". Those who really ARE "living the life" want to be treated like a normal human being like anyone else... they don't try to force their "bling bling" in people's faces in an attempt to impress them. That's exactly what Dion tries to do with his pictures of cars, loose women, friends, etc...

    Never have I seen someone try so hard to prove how "great" he is. And if he really was that important, he wouldn't have to blitz us with all of this irrelevant BS.

    [quote]As for the Vegas jibe, It was a lighthearted comment ,buddy.I was simply stating Vegas isnt exactly the Bible belt is it???? Id say it positively has a higher quotient of sleazy individuals than most places.No offence meant!<hr></blockquote>

    No offense taken... but take it from me. New York can be just as seedy as Vegas.

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    Origionally posted by Vinylboy:
    "People who have been around the Neo scene for a long time (like me) know better. We have seen the guys behind NGF do all sorts of nasty, shifty, questionable, and shady things to people for no reason whatsoever. People like us, and the more recent veterans that have been screwed by them over the last one or two years are doing nothing more than warning newbies about their bad practices in hopes that we can eliminate the riff raff."

    Ive been here a long time too (member 82) and I was at Neo alec/Under the Moon a long time before then.

    what really pisses me off about all this NGF antichrist, veteran talk, is, why doesnt anyone say anything about someone far far worse....DREAMH20!!! Why isnt this guy ever mentioned???

    He ripped off my mates mario and buster of 1000's of dollars of stuff, and then to top it off, is abusive and mocking to them.!!!!He has consistently taken every step to avoid paying any of those guys or the 15 others he scammed. You cant telephone him,he has blocks put on, and he really is a completely vindictive and arrogant shithead.The guy got 17 negatives in 1 month on ebay....and is now using a fake ebay account to peddle more scams to unsuspecting members.

    newbies know that people like Shawn and Laurent are trustworthy sellers, people know about NGF, if you people want to "save the newbies from bad people " tell them about dreamh20 and his wife!!

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    [quote]Originally posted by rugal2000:
    <strong>Origionally posted by Vinylboy:
    "People who have been around the Neo scene for a long time (like me) know better. We have seen the guys behind NGF do all sorts of nasty, shifty, questionable, and shady things to people for no reason whatsoever. People like us, and the more recent veterans that have been screwed by them over the last one or two years are doing nothing more than warning newbies about their bad practices in hopes that we can eliminate the riff raff."

    Ive been here a long time too (member 82) and I was at Neo alec/Under the Moon a long time before then.

    what really suprises me about all this NGF antichrist, veteran talk, is, why doesnt anyone say anything about someone far far worse....DREAMH20!!! Why isnt this guy ever mentioned???

    He ripped off my mates mario and buster of 1000's of dollars of stuff, and then to top it off, is abusive and mocking to them.!!!!He has consistently taken every step to avoid paying any of those guys or the 15 others he scammed. You cant telephone him,he has blocks put on, and he really is a completely vindictive and arrogant shithead.The guy got 17 negatives in 1 month on ebay....and is now using a fake ebay account to peddle more scams to unsuspecting members.

    NGF is the past, newbies know that people like Big bear, Shawn and Laurent are trustworthy sellers, people know about NGF and all the stories, if you people want to "save the newbies from bad people " tell them about dreamh20 and his wife!!

    [ November 12, 2002: Message edited by: rugal2000 ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

    I'd love to have some info on the dream20 guy. Send me an email please.
    http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=82025

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    Hey gunrock,
    There was a huge thread about this by BUster Broon, Ill try and get a date but it shouldnt be too difficult to find, it was sometime in the last 2 months.

    Dreamh20 is better known as Tim Tews, a real sleazy piece of shit.

    He and his wife used to take the high ground on everything, but eventually the sham collapsed and the guy broke the record for most negs in a month at ebay!

    People still defend this guy saying he just had money problems, but that is utter bullshit.I know this guy up close and personal....and trust me he makes Dion look like a rank amateur!!

    Ill see what I can dig up and get back tommorow.

    BTW Vinyl boy I agree with everything U said, and I wasnt trying to say U arent a wrestling fan

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    All Playmore are interested in is physical evidence

    If you want to go on some sort of crusade against NGF you are going to have to procure any piece of neo geo related items (carts, conversions, inserts etc.) and send them to Playmore.

    They're not interested in you telling them that NGF is breaking the law; they're only interested in you proving that they're breaking the law.

    Trust me.

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    [quote]Originally posted by rugal2000:
    <strong>Ive been here a long time too (member 82) and I was at Neo alec/Under the Moon a long time before then.

    what really suprises me about all this NGF antichrist, veteran talk, is, why doesnt anyone say anything about someone far far worse....DREAMH20!!! Why isnt this guy ever mentioned???

    He ripped off my mates mario and buster of 1000's of dollars of stuff, and then to top it off, is abusive and mocking to them.!!!!He has consistently taken every step to avoid paying any of those guys or the 15 others he scammed. You cant telephone him,he has blocks put on, and he really is a completely vindictive and arrogant shithead.The guy got 17 negatives in 1 month on ebay....and is now using a fake ebay account to peddle more scams to unsuspecting members.

    NGF is the past, newbies know that people like Big bear, Shawn and Laurent are trustworthy sellers, people know about NGF and all the stories, if you people want to "save the newbies from bad people " tell them about dreamh20 and his wife!!</strong><hr></blockquote>

    That's a good point... I vaguely remember this guy. Again, I never dealt with him personally, and if I recall most of his dealings were here on the NG.com forums instead of the DHP list. It took me a while (even after registering) for me to use the online forums more than the mailing list.

    I'm guessing the reason why people don't talk too much about dreamh20 is because he's not around as much as the other guys. He did his piece (a rather large one at that), and kinda disappeared from public view. At least I don't see him around... I know he doesn't post on DHP, and I don't know if he still has an account on this particular forum anymore. NGF, on the other hand, has done just as much damage to many more people (if not more), and they STILL linger about. Like adding insult to injury... daring you to do something more... like a virus that refuses to be cured.

    That's why you still see so much NGF bashing around here...

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    [quote]Originally posted by rugal2000:
    <strong> why doesnt anyone say anything about someone far far worse....DREAMH20!!! Why isnt this guy ever mentioned???
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    Oh, He's a sonuvabitch too, I know from personal experience (thankfully I wasn't scammed in the process).

    This thread happens to be about ways to legally bag the biggest scamming artists in the market.

    So please stay on target. Start a DreamH20 thread if you want, enough people do dislike him.

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    [quote]Originally posted by Ed:
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    hmm...

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    exuse me can you tell me WHO did that pic with the two cerebral palsy guys wearing NGF shirts, cause I find that VERY OFFENSIVE towards cerebral palsy people, to me that is no joke involving people with a condition like that

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    [quote]Originally posted by The Legendary LoneWolf:
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    or they can possibly have downs syndrome
    I am not an expert in the field of medical department, but that pic is still taking the piss
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    [quote]Originally posted by The Legendary LoneWolf:
    <strong>or they can possibly have downs syndrome
    I am not an expert in the field of medical department, but that pic is still taking the piss</strong><hr></blockquote>

    If it's any consolation, the people who do things like that are obviously pretty juvenile themselves. It's best to shrug and be glad they probably won't get a chance to pro-create until they wise up a bit.

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    [quote]Originally posted by The Legendary LoneWolf:
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    exuse me can you tell me WHO did that pic with the two cerebral palsy guys wearing NGF shirts, cause I find that VERY OFFENSIVE towards cerebral palsy people, to me that is no joke involving people with a condition like that

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    Um, might want to do a bit of research on your "afflictions". The guy on the right most likely has Downs Syndrome, not CP. <img src="graemlins/spock.gif" border="0" alt="[Spock]" />
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    [quote]Originally posted by Bobak:
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    I'm not a lawyer (yet), but I've done research in that area and it usually only works if the threatened person feels imminent harm -that is you actually think the other person is going to go out of their way to come and get you.

    This is measure off of the standard of what a Reasonably Prudent Person would think in the exact same situation.

    You could go for Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress, but that rarely works unless you have some kind of physical reaction (you start puking, loosing weight, insomnia -something that is long term and medically provable).

    These are a few of your options. It's tricky to get it done, but it has been done before. In fact, I believe Biomotor has had someone thrown in the slammer before based on email evidence (or was it a phone call?). In that situation, it boiled down to an imminent physical threat.

    Does that help?

    [ November 11, 2002: Message edited by: Bobak ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

    Actually they called from the airport to let me know they were coming, so I called the cops. It was either that or put a bullet in him when he showed up.

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    [quote]Originally posted by gunrock46:
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    I'd love to have some info on the dream20 guy. Send me an email please.</strong><hr></blockquote>

    just click on the link in my signature

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    [quote]Originally posted by chimpmeister:
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    Um, might want to do a bit of research on your "afflictions". The guy on the right most likely has Downs Syndrome, not CP. <img src="graemlins/spock.gif" border="0" alt="[Spock]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

    yeah thanks m8, before you try to jump on me look above 2 posts before yours, yeah above yours Bobak saw what I said after I wrote what you quoted about me, I corrected my mistake OK, I am bringing up a good issue and all you can add is my mistake, WHICH I corrected about 90 mins before you did. If you want to type something useful you should know what I wrote was a valid point. All you people who want to cuss Dion and Chris is your business, BUT to involve people who are innocent and have nothing to do with them is well out of f***in order. Who in the F**k do you people think you are using people who are disabled, less fortune than ourselves, mentally handicapped OR they can't or understand the level for which we use them for and they can't defend themselves as we able bodied peeps can if we were cussed is just LOWER than NGF, yes LOWER than DION DAKIS AND CHRIS RAY PUT TOGETHER. Bobak understood what I said, maybe cause he can read and others can't and I am getting critised cause I make a mistake that a NORMAL person would have understood OR who can READ( like Bobak) and not jump like a dog after a stick to stupidness. I think that is disgusting. if you peeps want to cuss Dion and Chris's operation use CONSTRUCTIVE points, not just using easy options or funny ones, I think it is sad I am pointing out the error of the 2 people used in a VERY BAD way and I am the only one saying the truth and the FIRST thing somebody says about my message is that I am not right, No its that I made a error in the condition and giving me the peoples eyebrow and telling me to do MORE research , well you should try and RESEARCH for some morales and values Which if he read under my origianl message, he would have saw I made up for my mistake. People like that should be put in a bag and whoever gets punched deserves it
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    Legendary wolf man U gotta understand, theres a lot of wankers on this board who make comments like that all the time and try and pass them selves off as nice guys.....there was one puke here called thirdkind who used to have a sig with a picture of disabled 100 metre runner winning a race with the headline..."I may run fast but im still a retard".....I commented on it, and the guy flamed me like anything. Just ignore it, people saying like that are playing with their lives, cos ive seen this happen, what goes around can come around...maybe one day that bastard will have a son with downs syndrone and then we'll see.

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    [quote]Originally posted by rugal2000:
    <strong>Legendary wolf man U gotta understand, theres a lot of wankers on this board who make comments like that all the time and try and pass them selves off as nice guys.....there was one puke here called thirdkind who used to have a sig with a picture of disabled 100 metre runner winning a race with the headline..."I may run fast but im still a retard".....I commented on it, and the guy flamed me like anything. Just ignore it, people saying like that are playing with their lives, cos ive seen this happen, what goes around can come around...maybe one day that bastard will have a son with downs syndrone and then we'll see.</strong><hr></blockquote>
    Yeah and you know who I will feel sorry for, the Kid who will have a tosser for a parent, but at least I have 3 peeps who understand where I am coming from ( third person didn't comment by writing)
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    [quote]Originally posted by BioMotor_Unitron:
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    Actually they called from the airport to let me know they were coming, so I called the cops. It was either that or put a bullet in him when he showed up.

    [ November 14, 2002: Message edited by: BioMotor_Unitron ]</strong><hr></blockquote>


    Tell me more BMU tell me more...
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    [quote]Originally posted by chimpmeister:
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    Um, might want to do a bit of research on your "afflictions". The guy on the right most likely has Downs Syndrome, not CP. <img src="graemlins/spock.gif" border="0" alt="[Spock]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

    Don't you have something better to do? Like humping your Xbox or jacking off to the pix in a Windows XP manual?

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    [quote]Originally posted by rugal2000:
    Are you that guy that started the petition to be unbanned???

    <img src="graemlins/spock.gif" border="0" alt="[Spock]" /> [/QB]<hr></blockquote>

    No but I was about to.

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