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    [quote]Originally posted by Kyo 2000:
    <strong>NOTHING is going to happen and we ALL know it.</strong><hr></blockquote>

    Yeah. You (actually) wish.

    Looks like someone finally put you in your place! From: his head in his ass. Priceless! *bows to whoever thought that one up*

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    Hmm... maybe playmore WILL take a stand on their coypwrites. Has anyone read this(it's kinda long). Sounds pretty aggressive. What do you think:

    October 28, 2002
    PLAYMORE CORPORATION

    Actions against Aruze Corporation by PLAYMORE

    CORPORATION

    1.
    Action for damages (Complaint accepted by the Court as of February 28, 2002)


    Summary of Action
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    "Trademark and copyright infringement by Aruze's


    pachinko slot machine, "Crazy Racer R"

    PLAYMORE filed a trademark and copyright action for damages in Osaka District Court alleging that Aruze was infringing upon PLAYMORE's trademark and copyright (literary work) concerning "Crazy Racer" of PLAYMORE by using such trademark and copyright (literary work) for Aruze's pachinko slot machine, "Crazy Racer R", and continuing the sale of the same, without obtaining any license or permission from PLAYMORE.


    Damages claimed
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    120,000,000 Japanese Yen


    Note
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    PLAYMORE also filed a criminal action in the Tokyo

    Metropolitan Police Dept. alleging Aruze was infringing upon PLAYMORE's trademark. (Complaint accepted by the TMPD as of July 3, 2002)

    2.
    Action for Damages (Complaint accepted by the Court as of March 15, 2002)


    Summary of Action
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    "Copyright infringement by Aruze's pachinko slot


    machine, "Bakucho"

    PLAYMORE filed a copyright action for damages in Osaka District Court alleging that Aruze was infringing upon PLAYMORE's copyrights (literary woks) concerning "IRE- GUI" and "Bakucho" of PLAYMORE by using such copyrights (literary woks) for Aruze's pachinko slot machine, "Bakucho R", and continuing the sale of the same, without obtaining any license or permission from PLAYMORE.


    Damages claimed
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    2,400,000,000 Japanese Yen

    3.
    Action for damages and judicial injunction (Complaint accepted by the Court as of


    April 9, 2002)


    Summary of Action
    :
    "Copyright infringement by Aruze's software for

    PlayStation 2, for "Aruze Kingdom 6 (Crazy Racer)"

    PLAYMORE filed a copyright action for damages and injunctive relief to prevent the sale of "Aruze Kingdom 6" in Osaka District Court alleging that Aruze was knowingly infringing upon PLAYMORE's trademark and copyright (literary work) concerning "Crazy Racer" of PLAYMORE by using such trademark and copyright (literary work) for Aruze's software for PlayStation 2, "Aruze Kingdom 6", and continuing the sale of said software, without obtaining any license or permission from PLAYMORE.


    Damages claimed
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    989,940,000 Japanese Yen

    4.
    Action for damages and judicial injunction (Complaint accepted by the Court as of


    August 23, 2002)


    Summary of Action
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    "Copyright infringement by Aruze's software for

    PlayStation 2, "Aruze Kingdom 7 (Bakucho)"

    PLAYMORE filed a copyright action for damages and injunctive relief to prevent the sale of "Aruze Kingdom 7" in Osaka District Court alleging that Aruze and Nihon Amusement Broadcasting Co. were knowingly infringing upon PLAYMORE's copyright (literary work) concerning "IRE-GUI" and "Bakucho" of PLAYMORE by using such copyright (literary work) for its software for PlayStation 2, "Aruze Kingdom 7", and continuing the sale of said software, without obtaining any license or permission from PLAYMORE.
    It should be pointed out that Aruze totally disregarded the action for damages of the item 2 above and knowingly infringed again PLAYMORE's copyright in the same manner. Therefore, PLAYMORE has claimed damages to Aruze amounting to the total profit accrued to Aruze in this connection for the purpose of preventing the malicious act performed by Aruze. Aruze continued to make the unauthorized use of the software of "Bakucho" owned by PLAYMORE for its software for PlayStation 2 and market the same shamelessly through its affiliate company named Nihon Amusement Broadcasting Co.


    Damages claimed
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    314,500,000 Japanese Yen

    5.
    Action for damages (Complaint accepted by the Court as of October 28, 2002)


    Summary of Action
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    "Copyright infringement by Aruze's pachinko slot


    machine, "IRE-GUI"

    PLAYMORE filed a copyright action for damages in Osaka District Court alleging that Aruze was infringing upon PLAYMORE's copyright (literary work) concerning "IRE- GUI" owned by PLAYMORE by using such copyright (literary work) for its pachinko slot machine ,"IRE-GUI", and continuing the sale of the same, without obtaining any license or permission from PLAYMORE.
    It should also be pointed out that Aruze continued to sell its "IRE-GUI" showing the inscription "(c)SNK 2001" expressly, that was the main cause of action of the above item 2, during the course of said action. Furthermore, Aruze continued to use the well-known characters of PLAYMORE among fans of fighting games such as "Terry Bogard" and "Mai Shiranui" appeared in "Fatal Fury" series and "The King of Fighters" series as premium characters. It being so, the infringement of PLAYMORE's rights by Aruze was quite clear so that PLAYMORE claimed damages to Aruze amounting to the total profit accrued to Aruze in this connection for the purpose of preventing the malicious act performed by Aruze, together with the action of the above item4.


    Damages claimed
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    2,400,000,000 Japanese Yen

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    On the day of declaration of bankruptcy of SNK, PLAYMORE was assigned by the

    receiver all the intellectual properties rights of SNK. Aruze had also joined the bid for the intellectual properties rights of SNK, but PLAYMORE had become a successful bidder. Therefore, it is apparent that Aruze must have known that general assignment of SNK's intellectual properties rights including the above-mentioned trademark and copyrights was made to PLAYMORE. It is also clear that Aruze has obtained excessive profit by continuing infringement of PLAYMORE's rights. In this connection the aggregate of damages claimed under five actions as above amounts to 6,224,440,000 Japanese yen.

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    **Wonders what else did Playmore sue Aruze for** <img src="graemlins/spock.gif" border="0" alt="[Spock]" />
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    [quote]Originally posted by Megatron X:
    <strong>**Wonders what else did Playmore sue Aruze for** <img src="graemlins/spock.gif" border="0" alt="[Spock]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

    Your telling me... <img src="graemlins/ohno.gif" border="0" alt="[Oh No]" /> ...whoa....waht a list...
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    [quote]Originally posted by Vinnk:
    <strong>Hmm... maybe playmore WILL take a stand on their coypwrites. Has anyone read this(it's kinda long). Sounds pretty aggressive. What do you think:
    [cases omitted]</strong><hr></blockquote>

    I glanced over it, interesting. It's a pretty large b2b lawsuit. Still, if you could find an instant of smaller-time enforcement that would be even better.

    It might be harder since there are so many piraters overseas -I think they take small-time stuff a lot more serious in the US.

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    [quote]Originally posted by Vinnk:
    <strong>On the day of declaration of bankruptcy of SNK, PLAYMORE was assigned by the

    receiver all the intellectual properties rights of SNK. Aruze had also joined the bid for the intellectual properties rights of SNK, but PLAYMORE had become a successful bidder. Therefore, it is apparent that Aruze must have known that general assignment of SNK's intellectual properties rights including the above-mentioned trademark and copyrights was made to PLAYMORE. It is also clear that Aruze has obtained excessive profit by continuing infringement of PLAYMORE's rights. In this connection the aggregate of damages claimed under five actions as above amounts to 6,224,440,000 Japanese yen.</strong><hr></blockquote>

    Thanks for the detailed information. Playmore is basically suing Aruze for a sum equivilent to $51 million dollars.

    6,224,440,000 Yen = 50,935,651.66 USD

    Whoa!
    I definitely want to see where this goes next...
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    I certainly hope Playmore ends the lawsuit successfully and then starts to go after Neo Geo COUNTERFITTERS.
    http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=82025

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    For some reason i find it hard to beleive that they are selling official English copies on kizuna Encouter for $899.

    Fuck those two cock rocking fuck faces, i hope they get the faces broken open like they break open AES/MVS carts.

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    I the Asian Punisher will destroy those two and rid the world of these kind of people. Look Out Bitches cause your freak ass is going down! <img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" />
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    [quote]Originally posted by XSkater2099:
    <strong>For some reason i find it hard to beleive that they are selling official English copies on kizuna Encouter for $899.

    Fuck those two cock rocking fuck faces, i hope they get the faces broken open like they break open AES/MVS carts.</strong><hr></blockquote>

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    Wow, that's the frist time I posted something that got a response. Score!

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    hmm...

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    [quote]Originally posted by Vinnk:
    <strong>Here's an interesting perspective...

    I think that the duo are absolutely vital for the neo community. Wait, don't kill me! Hear me out.

    They are Evil. And that's perfect.

    What would Superman be without Lex Luthor or Batman without the Joker. Pretty boring.

    These goofs are the required foil for the serious gamers. And they do things in such an obvious and goofy way that I can't help but laugh.

    Added to that they are no real threat to us. We know very well not to but anything from them. If a newbie buys something from them and gets burnt it's a shame but they will buy from shawn next time, and all future times.

    They make fake carts, but in a way we can know they are fake, raising the value of real carts.

    They join us all together in our disgust of them. No matter how much we fight between ourselfs we all have that in common. United in the dislike of NGF.

    In the end we should thank them... then punch them in the fucking face for those goddamn stamps they put on everything!

    ..oh. Nevermind.

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    Neither actually, just a guy who thinks destroying carts/inserts/copywrite laws is horrible, but who Also thinks that they are the perfect villian for the Neo Scene. They are really like cartoon charactors. It's almost hard to belive that they are real. They are definatly the lowest of the low when it comes to their game selling practices, but as someone to get pissed off at rather than getting pissed off at each other they fit the bill. I'm too new to the Neo Scene to have ever been ripped off by them (I found ths site first) but I'm sure for those of you who got screwed they arn't as funny to you.

    Oh, for those interested I'm Vinnk. My location says Nagasaki, Japan because I was going to school there when I registered and I will be moving back there next year to teach English, so I never changed it. Been a neo fan only since about early 1999 when I bought my NGPC. Wanted to play the cart games but couldn't and still can't afford the system. Picked up a NGCD in Osaka and I have about 40 games for it. I own 4 AES carts, but no cart system. I was able to get the carts cheap in Japan and I figure I will eventually buy one. I discovered this site while looking for CD games. Only got the guts to post a few weeks ago (it's been a mixed bag, since I posted something already known). I'm probably one of Noe-Geos biggest advocates who dosn't actually own one. umm.. that's about it.

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    [quote]Originally posted by Vinnk:
    <strong>Neither actually, just a guy who thinks destroying carts/inserts/copywrite laws is horrible, but who Also thinks that they are the perfect villian for the Neo Scene. They are really like cartoon charactors. It's almost hard to belive that they are real. They are definatly the lowest of the low when it comes to their game selling practices, but as someone to get pissed off at rather than getting pissed off at each other they fit the bill. I'm too new to the Neo Scene to have ever been ripped off by them (I found ths site first) but I'm sure for those of you who got screwed they arn't as funny to you.

    Oh, for those interested I'm Vinnk. My location says Nagasaki, Japan because I was going to school there when I registered and I will be moving back there next year to teach English, so I never changed it. Been a neo fan only since about early 1999 when I bought my NGPC. Wanted to play the cart games but couldn't and still can't afford the system. Picked up a NGCD in Osaka and I have about 40 games for it. I own 4 AES carts, but no cart system. I was able to get the carts cheap in Japan and I figure I will eventually buy one. I discovered this site while looking for CD games. Only got the guts to post a few weeks ago (it's been a mixed bag, since I posted something already known). I'm probably one of Noe-Geos biggest advocates who dosn't actually own one. umm.. that's about it.</strong><hr></blockquote>

    Um, "welcome" (although it's kinda late for that)

    Let's try and keep this thread on topic.

    (that's in no way meant to just pick on Vinnk, there a number of posts that are deviating from what's been a particularly good thread)

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    [quote]Originally posted by Bobak:
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    Um, "welcome" (although it's kinda late for that)

    Let's try and keep this thread on topic.

    (that's in no way meant to just pick on Vinnk, there a number of posts that are deviating from what's been a particularly good thread)</strong><hr></blockquote>

    Props to that Bobak. Keep this thread spam and bullshit free. No need to post pics of 2 asian idiots here.

    Now, ironically I have 2 friends whos uncles are all copyright, trademark and patent attorneys. Sent some emails to them to see what they think. Damn that Dion and Chris get real freaky (even more than usual) when presented with OVERWHELMING facts about crimes they are commiting i.e.: mail fraud, credit card fraud, copyright, trademark and patent ingringement. Still in light of all this overwhelming evidence they do nothing but call me a "punk ass bitch" and "I have no proof". Has anyone else directly had bad business dealing from them? Email me and I'll collect the information I'm forwarding to proper people.

    For anyone else that cares I read on the USPS website that they'll investigate mail fraud and copyright violations. I know they like to go after cd, ebay, tape and dvd counterfitters so why not these guys. They have presented no proof. More info as I get it.
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    Here's the thing. i got that info right off playmores website. In English! Who other than us or someone doing something illeagle do you think will read and/or care about this. Could it be a subtle warning? I meant they even make the point about talking about their rights to use the charactors from previous SNK games. I can't think of another reason they'd post it. Maybe for investers to know how much money might be coming their way, still investors wouldn't need to go to playmores site to get that info. Seems deliciously intentional. Any thoughts?

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    [quote]Originally posted by Vinnk:
    <strong>Here's the thing. i got that info right off playmores website. In English! Who other than us or someone doing something illeagle do you think will read and/or care about this. Could it be a subtle warning? I meant they even make the point about talking about their rights to use the charactors from previous SNK games. I can't think of another reason they'd post it. Maybe for investers to know how much money might be coming their way, still investors wouldn't need to go to playmores site to get that info. Seems deliciously intentional. Any thoughts?
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    I think they may be aiming that information at any potential investors or news sources that want to know the company is (a) still vigorous, (b) potentially in for a large settlement.

    You're right, people could find that info elsewhere -but why not save them the problem of having to hunt it down?

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    [quote]Originally posted by Vinnk:
    <strong>Here's the thing. i got that info right off playmores website. In English! Who other than us or someone doing something illeagle do you think will read and/or care about this. Could it be a subtle warning? I meant they even make the point about talking about their rights to use the charactors from previous SNK games. I can't think of another reason they'd post it. Maybe for investers to know how much money might be coming their way, still investors wouldn't need to go to playmores site to get that info. Seems deliciously intentional. Any thoughts?
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    I think they may be aiming that information at any potential investors or news sources that want to know the company is (a) still vigorous, (b) potentially in for a large settlement.

    You're right, people could find that info elsewhere -but why not save them the problem of having to hunt it down?

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    Yeah its pretty obvious that dion and Chris are living out their WWE fantasies, and they see themselves as ,the outsiders, or New world order,degeneration X...name any Wrestling clique and it seems they have adopted a simaler attitude and style.

    With all the swaggering/posturing and Dions talk of rolex watches,the "big tymers" lifestyle, and black porsches, its just the kind of thing Shawn Michaels or the Million Dollar man Ted Dibiase used to say. Hell, didnt Dion used to call everyone "nickle and dime peons" at one time!??

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    I donno...ever since I've been hearing about these guys and what they do, all I know is from the start is that they always had this larger then life attitude... <img src="graemlins/ohno.gif" border="0" alt="[Oh No]" />
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    [quote]Originally posted by EMAGDNIM:
    <strong>I donno...ever since I've been hearing about these guys and what they do, all I know is from the start is that they always had this larger then life attitude... <img src="graemlins/ohno.gif" border="0" alt="[Oh No]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

    No worries. I'm sending emails to all sorts of people to try and get them and their illegal attitudes stopped.

    On a side note. Any lawyer here know if threatening to beat somebody up or kill them over the web has any legal bearing in the real world?????
    http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=82025

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    The truth is, I dont think its an act, maybe Dion and his pals are the real inspiration for people like Shawn Michaels, Big Daddy Cool Diesel, etc.

    I mean its not like he's a fake...y'know like some geek like Mr KOOL pretending to be something he's not on the internet....the guy lives in Vegas, I heard his wife was in playboy.

    How many "nice" people do you know out of Vegas???
    And if his wife really was a porn star...then thats just the kind of woman attracted to these types.

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    [quote]Originally posted by rugal2000:
    The truth is, I dont think its an act, maybe Dion and his pals are the real inspiration for people like Shawn Michaels, Big Daddy Cool Diesel, etc.<hr></blockquote>

    And these people are ALL playing a character. They don't act like this in REAL life. The WWE is not real life. Back when I was a kid who did go to live wrestling shows at the Boston Garden, I had a chance to meet these people in person and none of them lived exactly like their characters.

    [quote]I mean its not like he's a fake...y'know like some geek like Mr KOOL pretending to be something he's not on the internet....the guy lives in Vegas, I heard his wife was in playboy.<hr></blockquote>

    That has no bearing on whether or not someone is an asshole. Graphical location, nor the fact that you're married to a good looking woman are not means to think that you're better than everyone else.

    [quote]How many "nice" people do you know out of Vegas???<hr></blockquote>

    PLENTY... should I make a list?

    [quote]And if his wife really was a porn star...then thats just the kind of woman attracted to these types.<hr></blockquote>

    Again... that's no excuse for someone to be an asshole. End of story. Stop trying to make excuses for him (which, BTW, I KNOW is reading this as I type this).

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    Vinylboy youve completely missed the point!!

    What is it with NGF , unless you make threats about how they are the antichrist, all of a sudden you get accused of "making excuses" for them.

    BTW I said

    "I dont think its an act, maybe Dion and his pals are the real inspiration for people like Shawn Michaels, Big Daddy Cool Diesel, etc."

    If youre the wrestling fan U profess to be, youll understand I said Dion was the real life inspiration for Shawn michaels and Big daddy cool diesel,.....Shawn michaels and BDK diesel are registered WWE characters not real people.....so I wasnt calling the guys who play them Shawn Podunk and Kevin Nash, badpeople, so What are you on about???? The UK had the worlds 1st "behind the scenes " wrestling magazine back in the early 90's long b4 the usa had an equivalent. I know for example the struggle Steve Austin had getting into the wresling business in the late 80s, I know his USWA days when he existed on potatoes and Tuna and used to sleep in his car between driving to shows.He actually used to bake the potatoes in his car engine cos he had nothin

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    Origionally posted by Rugal 2000: I mean its not like he's a fake...y'know like some geek like Mr KOOL pretending to be something he's not on the internet....the guy lives in Vegas, I heard his wife was in playboy.
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    Replied by Vinylboy:
    That has no bearing on whether or not someone is an asshole. Graphical location, nor the fact that you're married to a good looking woman are not means to think that you're better than everyone else.


    Vinylboy.....my point was Dion really lives in Vegas,the photographs are really him,.....I only said that, cos some people have insinuated that Dion is really a pencil necked 35 year old geek living in Wisconsin with his parents,and that the "dion Dakis" "big Tymer" persona is a fake....So I cant make sense of your reply, as its got nothing to do with what i said in the 1st place!!!

    As for the Vegas jibe, It was a lighthearted comment ,buddy.I was simply stating Vegas isnt exactly the Bible belt is it???? Id say it positively has a higher quotient of sleazy individuals than most places.No offence meant!

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