NGF admits to DESTROYING Official SNK Inserts!!!

[EDITOR'S NOTE: More vile antics by the dasdardly duo known as NGF (is it any surprise that they were eventually sued by SNK?)]

Yes, it is news unfortunately, and does not deserve to be in N&R though. The 'so called fans' over at NGF admitted tonight on the DHP list that they are destroying the original SNK inserts when they replace them with their poorly printed, graffiti covered replacements that they claim 'fix' the errors SNK made.

Here is a snippet of what Chris Ray had to say:

<STRONG>I think we have explained the inserts over 100 times. Its all over every one of our pages, AND we clearly show a picture of the game. The fact is the public couldnt be more informed about why the screwed up inserts are garbage and we toss them. As a matter of fact, at the CGE our customers WATCHED us thow away the worthless messed up inserts and swap them out right on the spot. No problems. Everyone but NGF obsessed understand that its ridding the market of junk.

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Now we know what has happened to all of the original KOF2k inserts, the Metal Slug inserts for EVERY Slug with the ugly orange stripe, and many other SNK inserts.

How can these people call themselves fans? How can they even be ACKNOWLEDGED as fans now? Any respect for them, or their collection is now gone in my eyes. They are not the biggest fans. They are not collectors, or even gamers, they are just like speculators in the stock market! If they were fans, they would not take such actions. They are just in it for the ego boost, and the cash, nothing else.

This is just disgraceful. Let me tell you, when you just keep threading the lies, eventually the spool empties of thread, and you are stuck at the end, all credibility lost.

This is just utterly disgusting and PATHETIC. They are a menace to the hobby!

Why do we have people like NGF hurting the scene anyway. Why oh why. Can't they ruin Lynx games or something. I guess we wouldn't have someone to bitch at though. I am tired of hearing about their shit and what they do. I guess its a testament to the neo collectors on how strict we are about things but can we do something beyond not buying from them?

Chris Ray actually admits to disgarding authentic Neo Geo Inserts as if they were shrink wrap surrounding today's gaming CD's
Are you few supporters reading this?
What do you think about this 'small tymers'?
Anybody who continues to support ths behavior is part of the problem!
-BB

I shead a tear for those lost.....no seriously I actually cried a little. Not bawling, but my eyes watered. How someone couldclaim to love something so much, yet do so much to hurt it, is beyond me. It is like they have Munchausen Byproxy Syndrome, causing harm to their beloved to get attention, believeing it is the best.

Or maybe I just want to comfort myself by telling myself they are crazy, since that would justify in my mind what they are doing.
Since no sane person would want to do that, right?

I hope they are in a really bad auto accident. Straight up, I'm saying I hope they die.

Since you forwarded me this topic I will give my opinion on the subject.
Anyone who throws away clean nice REAL SNK inserts, needs to be shot.
Then they wonder why there forum got hacked to the ground.
If NGF had been legit from the begining imagine what could have been accomplished, but NO.
They must do everything in there power to fuck and annoy as many fans as possible.
I remember a time in chat where I met "MR Dion"
we started ANGF or ANTI NEO GEO FREAK at the time and I had actually tried to see if the guy had even a penny of intelligence, so we talked about craps etc. neo carts.
(I was new to this site, and ngf and other fucked up cons in general, at the time I was learning the dirt on these theif/con artists)

I was ACTUALLY nice to the shithead.
NO JOKE.
Then he insults the shit out of me and leaves chat like mr christ of the scene. At that time, I had learned a lesson about ngf or
no good fucks. (said I was a fat fuck from chicago, which is another lame attempt since I live in LA, and by no means am fat)

They had not a shred of professional following.
Shortly after I learned of all the schemes and lies, and a little story (credit to bonuskun on that)
What I personally hate is people who
bash ngf in public (tonk for example) then deal with them behind our backs.
DECEIVING us to fit in.
In the eyes of business men everywhere NGF is a fuckin joke.
I am proud enough to make the claim and be able to say I have never sent ngf a dime. not one cent.
I have not supported dion's cause, and others like chimp and ryogeo, deserve there respect as THEY stand true to there word.

As for the insert issue, its a typical dion and chris thing.
If not for the love triangle, (dont forget jorge)
there would not be much to laugh at.
I consider myself a SNK supporter, when I was a newbie I heard about ngf, I was under the impression they were just a business.
I am glad I have people on this site and many others who showed me the right direction, as I was new at the time.
(which is damn proof that talking there business down and showing them for the frads they are can steer the newer online sceners on where to go)
However there is much to look forward to.
KOF 2K1 is on its way, (god hope its worth the time)

As for NGF, in all unbiased honesty, they have no hope, look at that metal slug 3 attempt, its a typical way for them to gain attention through the publics eyes.
I am glad we have people that show things for what they truly are. (samhain and ill and DEVIL GUI, who showed this fraud up many times)
I am glad I have not had to put up with fake games.
I feel sorry for those that bought from ngf and got screwed.
HOWEVER I do not for the people who took the time to learn about them and still bought from them.
Like giving a rattle snake your money and in a 50/50 chance it does not bite your hand taking it...

Most of his business is at newbie targets.

The bottom line is this.
You either buy or you don't.
I made the right decision in my eyes and that was to never buy a thing from them.
I have dealt with many a good business, and even many people in the scene that were credible and very kind.
NGF is easily avoided these days, with people informing the newer members whats up with there crappy business.
Its all love for the games, we all do share a common interest, we love SNK and its games, its the truth.
NGF has proven they do not love SNK, they love to fill there pockets with money.
Thats all they care about.

So now they are admitting they trashed beautiful SNK original inserts.
there are suporters on this site that definately need to learn about this crap, so they can buy from credible sources and not shitgf.

Dion is a racist, he had said a comment towards a member which can be found in the warroom if you dig enough.
(the gums comment)
He had ripped shawn 4 times over.
He lied to cover his ass on many occasions.

What bothered me is the crap that people pull.
I remember when ngf started giving free shit away, Brylmoo had joined there forum (the same brylmoo with the fuck ngf logo)
and got a free flyer.
I was kinda miffed so I started a topic at NL's BBS at the time and wondered why people were selling out and shit, I was LIKE WTF?
Why are the same people who bash ngf now kissing ass????!!
Nick answered me saying he was asking that same question a long time back.

I took people's opinions into consideration as there are a hell of alot of people who were disgusted with them. When a entire forum is shitting on someones business ethic then YOU KNOW something is up.

Then there was the time that dion had stoled BB's box idea and stoled the pics as well, a major low blow. I had heard this from shawn who said "not fair to bear" I then started a topic saying "Big Bear got screwed"

then hell broke loose on them. They had fucked over a honest dealer and tried to defame him.

I think if you support ngf in any way you are a right fuckin moron, with half a brain.
I will continue to think that because I HATE the bullshit they pull.
Just don't sell out and be true to your game.
Once your sold, your ass is nailed for good.
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If your new to the scene and wondering if you should deal with them or not PLEASE DONT, they do not support SNK, they leech and ruin SNK's good name.
Many good sellers,
Kaiten Games,
the neo store (yes I have bought from here and the items are all real)
gamescity, your mvs place to be.(ask for danny 1-626-281-9882)
japan video games, which I think they still got KOF 2000 japanese versions! better call em!
there are probably many more good sellers.
Thats my opinion.

Also it will be great, soon enough ngf will be totally broke, when the day comes then we will be free of this ball and chain thats haunted a good scene for so long.

Thats a little of how I came to be on this site for what its worth, the ride has been good. when ngf is dead the ride will be great.
There are a plague to this community.
NGF was originally a japanese mag based on neo, they stoled the logo and everything and used it in the US where they cannot be touched!
<IMG SRC="smilies/mad.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/mad.gif" border="0"> !!!
There whole business was a rip off of other things, and in no way is original.
JOIN ME PEOPLE!

FUCK NGF!!!!! YOUR BUSINESS IS FINISHED AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
DION YOUR REP IS SO FUCKED EVEN GOD DENIES A PLACE FOR YOU IN HEAVEN!!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
JOIN ME PEOPLE!!!!!!!

KILL these BASTARDS !!! <IMG SRC="smilies/veryangry.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/veryangry.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/veryangry.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/veryangry.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/veryangry.gif" border="0">

FUCK Dion and Chris right in the goat ass. <IMG SRC="smilies/mad.gif" border="0">

I think NGF probably made this up just to anger people. <IMG SRC="smilies/annoyed.gif" border="0">

NGF likes attention, even the negative kind.

Exactly what i expected from NGfuck(NGF).they are hypocrites who leaves on attention.i really think SNK is angry with them and their actions. <IMG SRC="smilies/veryangry.gif" border="0">

Yawn... is this really surprising to anyone... It just seems funny that all the money spent on games here, you guys could have done away with these two a long time ago... *cough* <columbian hitmen> *cough* Oh well, yet another NGF story...

-Nick

WELL, AS IVE SAID BEFORE THEY ARE DISGUSTING...........IM PROUD TO SAY I HAVE NEVER "TRIED" THESE FOOL SERVICE FOR MYSELF, APART FROM THE ONE TIME d PLAYED A GUY CALLED mike zavala AND PULLED A SHIFTY........
BUT AT LEAST I DIDNT SUPPORT THESE ARSEHOLES KNOWINGLY (OR FOR VERY MUCH CASH EITHER)

ITS FUNNY THAT THEY ARE CORRECTING "MISTAKES" YET THEY THEMSELVES "ARE" MISTAKES.......
THEY SHOULD REPORT TO THEIR LOCAL HOSPITAL TO BE PUT DOWN......

DEVIL_GUI

*cough* <columbian hitmen> *cough*

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Now that does sound like a good idea. Let`s
start collecting the ca$h. <IMG SRC="smilies/drool.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/drool2.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/glee.gif" border="0">

As long as you have idiots willing to buy their freaked bullshit (like kinneth, hey are you reading this dude?), they'll be around, parasites infecting the community. I'm glad that Chris had the ball (singular) to finally admit this, it just pretty much seals the doom of these two clows . . . already they've had so many setbacks, this is just one more nail in their coffins. Fake KOF2K "English", stickers on carts and manuals, replacing authentic inserts with their fake squirrel-striped bullshit, ripping people off, etc. etc.

The writing is on the wall. The two clowns that make up "NGF" have nothing left but a few dumbass customers and kids to rip off. Once MS3 English hits, and now Sengoku 3 English also (just announced), I wonder what kind of lies they'll make up to cover their greasy butts? Doesn't matter, because 99.9% of the Neo fans already know about their scams, lies, and fake bullshit . . . they'll have to live off of the remaining .1%.

Sad thing is that, as others have pointed out, they COULD have been respected and looked up to in the community, but instead they are reviled and hated. I guess in every hobby you get scum like this, its unavoidable, but they're worse than most . . . <IMG SRC="smilies/mad.gif" border="0">

Originally posted by nruva:
<STRONG>*cough* <columbian hitmen> *cough* Oh well, yet another NGF story...

-Nick</STRONG>

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Columbian hitmen are overrated. They could not hit the broadside of a barn if they were INSIDE the barn. I would swear that they all attended the StormTrooper MarksManship Academy.

Nothing against anyone from Columbia, just against those wankers that the drug cartels hire.

BTW, as per the main Topic. Anyone singing the praises of NGF from this point forward, now that this travesty has come into the light, can expect extensive and thorough flaming. <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0">

*scratches nails on chalkboard*

Did that get your attention? I'll kill your Dion, your Chris. But I'll need help, money, some good men (and women), a harpoon and some carts. Who's with me?

What can I say? This is the same kind of shit Funcoland does, they accually throw away the boxes of the games, to save shelve space! Sometimes the booklet too, cause who in their right mind would want them??

More and more it keeps sounding like Chris Ray and Dion are accually insane, and they think their like some holy saviors of SNK, cause they need to "Cleanse" the world of the errored SNK inserts, so we can all have their corrected fake ones!

And for what? So the fcking colored stripe on the cart matches the others? Give me a break, this isn't pin striping on a fcking car here, if this isn't the last nail in their coffin that will make people never buy from them again, then admit anyone that still does to the same nuthouse NGF is gonna wind up in someday.

For anyone that wants to see the original message in its whole form (or can not believe Chris Ray would say such a thing):
http://lists.dhp.com/neogeo/2001/Sep/0096.html

All I have to say is that NGFs buddies STILL post here.

I think we all know who they are.

Everybody keep in mind that they support/buy from/pal around with NGF.

Food for thought...

[heavy scottish accent]Ae'll kidnap'em fer fifty, de-pro-gram 'em fer a hundred, an' kaill'em fer faive hundred![/heavy scottish accent]

(forgive my bad Scottish accent, my experience of hearing Scotsmen talk is pretty much limited to Sean Connery, Groundskeeper Willy, and old Star Trek episodes. So, as far as a genuine Scottish accent goes, "I canna' do it, captain. I dinna have the powerrrrrrrr!")

Originally posted by Wan-Fu:
<STRONG>I think NGF probably made this up just to anger people. <IMG SRC="smilies/annoyed.gif" border="0">

NGF likes attention, even the negative kind.</STRONG>

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Can you say 'DAMAGE CONTROL'?
The cats out of the bag,Chris has basically admitted that he and Dion SWAPPED every authentic US KOF 2K Insert in favor of a NGF insert. They swapped the authentic inserts because they were in there opinion 'ERRORED'?

WTF! Like I said before, I am the consumer! If I purchase a cart,sell me the original work and include the NGF insert on the side along with a note explaining that it's in your opinion you believe SNK's insert is 'ERRORED'. Give me the option whether to switch or not! Why in the FUCK do I need NGF to swap an insert for me or for that matter place randomly throughout my manual 'DESTRUCTIVE' stickers..I still can't believe that they would vandalize merchandise and attempt to sell it for astronomical prices..what even more scary,there are some who buy it and then what fucks me up even more is that these same NITWITS that purchase NGF crap peddle it on eBay and expect the 'REAL' community to accept it! The quality of alot of that stuff sold on eBay is horrible..Out of three transactions I made for carts I was only satisfied with one..not because of quality but because it was probably worth what I paid...
NGF is not trying to make anyone 'MAD' their GOAL is to ruin the chances of anyone attaining collections such as theres...while increasing prices of legitimate stuff!
Glad I'm not a collecter!
-BB

[ September 07, 2001: Message edited by: BIG BEAR ]

Originally posted by John:
<STRONG>[heavy scottish accent]Ae'll kidnap'em fer fifty, de-pro-gram 'em fer a hundred, an' kaill'em fer faive hundred![/heavy scottish accent]

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hahahahaha


pretty good


that was a nice one,man

Originally posted by John:
<STRONG>[heavy scottish accent]Ae'll kidnap'em fer fifty, de-pro-gram 'em fer a hundred, an' kaill'em fer faive hundred![/heavy scottish accent]

(forgive my bad Scottish accent, my experience of hearing Scotsmen talk is pretty much limited to Sean Connery, Groundskeeper Willy, and old Star Trek episodes. So, as far as a genuine Scottish accent goes, "I canna' do it, captain. I dinna have the powerrrrrrrr!")</STRONG>

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I got a criple in my index finger!!!!!
Grounds keeper willy is the shit.