English MS3 release

Bottom line is, the boxes were shipped from Osaka to Memphis. Period. Unless there is a conspiracy of X-Files proportions in sending empty boxes across the Pacific to mask a production run completed in the states, then all the proof necessary is visibe via shipping number that was provided to all of us.

And, by the way, ANY retailer that decided to buy this English release OR the Sengoku 3 English release had the option to have the items DROP SHIPPED TO THEIR OWN PLACE OF BUSINESS. This means that the boxes go DIRECTLY from Osaka to the buyer (be they NCS, VGD or whomever) with NO OPPORTUNITY FOR TOMFOOLERY.

Unless Apple has a duplicate manufacturing plant IN OSAKA, then this whole diatribe on who actually produced these items is MOOT. The games came from Osaka, Japan. They came from Osaka, Japan with the paperwork you see on the site. That's it.

This thread is still going?
C'mon guys Rodney said it best.
CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG??!?!

Nobody has lost credibility in this thread.
(except me, because I am purposely flushing mine for kicks)

Originally posted by Lord Wolfgang Krauser:
<STRONG>This thread is still going?
C'mon guys Rodney said it best.
CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG??!?!
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It really amazes me that we have to have these long stupid threads because of people who refuse to acknoledge facts and only wish to only sources for neo news.

Originally posted by Lord Wolfgang Krauser:
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Nobody has lost credibility in this thread.
(except me, because I am purposely flushing mine for kicks)</STRONG>

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Nobody? What about DSD? Lord Ill has kinda admitted he might be wrong, and I give him credit for that, but their whole approach casts them in bad light.

Before you speak your side, make sure you can back it up... none of them have been able to do this.

Originally posted by RyoGeo:
<STRONG>Bottom line is, the boxes were shipped from Osaka to Memphis.</STRONG>

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Wouldnt that be from Osaka to New York and then Memphis?

Originally posted by outsider:
<STRONG>Nobody? What about DSD? Lord Ill has kinda admitted he might be wrong, and I give him credit for that, but their whole approach casts them in bad light.

Before you speak your side, make sure you can back it up... none of them have been able to do this.</STRONG>

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Fuck facts, why make points that don't count for shit in reality.
All thats missing from this scene are stage props and love scenes.

"Before you speak your side, make sure you can back it up... none of them have been able to do this."

I have every right to speak my side whether I have facts or not, luckily this board is not communist.

"Nobody? What about DSD? Lord Ill has kinda admitted he might be wrong, and I give him credit for that, but their whole approach casts them in bad light."

Do you realize how corny this shit is?
Its video games, we talk about Garou, KOF whatever, if anything this has become a philosophical debate and is no longer about gaming.

I am just poking some fun at this endless thread, which amazingly people are taking extremely serious.
I don't have facts, I do not have pictures of Carts with people severed fingers still atached to the cases, I am very sorry.
If its any consulation, I will pretend I do then brag about it, so you can play off something. Sound good?

No offence to anyone, but people take things to far out of context.
Why can't we look forward to SNK stuff instead of fighting about it endlessly?
If anything is killing SNK, its the neo scenes endless paranoia. This is obviously where the money is...

Did I ever say I truly spoke myself?
Why back up things I have yet to state in the first place <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">

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when it all comes out,which it will too,i am goin to laugh in the face of each of those who ridiculed me ,and i laugh hard...lil boys and girls...

pathetic

Hey:

Something I keep seeing DSD say:

"why would SNK rerelease a game that sold poorly in the first run?"

BECAUSE THEY ARE SNK. This is the same company that continued to support a system that was basically dead in the water from the day it was released, that released a subpar CD system in a U.S. market when they KNEW no one would buy it or care. SNK has always had a very niche market, and today they probably have a bigger U.S. audience than they have ever had, so a small MS3 rerelease on AES makes sense because its exactly the type of thing SNK always does: financially stupid and and ignorant of "market trends", but they love the Neo gamers.

-SakurabaStyle

Originally posted by Lord Wolfgang Krauser:
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I have every right to speak my side whether I have facts or not, luckily this board is not communist.
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Whose telling you not speak your mind? You always do. I'm not even talking about YOU. What was being said by DSD is that basically we are all fools for believing Shawn and that we're buying some kind of forged, 2nd class good. All I'm saying is to BACK UP what you are saying. Read what I wrote damnit.

Originally posted by Lord Wolfgang Krauser:
[QB]


Do you realize how corny this shit is?
Its video games, we talk about Garou, KOF whatever, if anything this has become a philosophical debate and is no longer about gaming.
[QB]

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No shit its fucking corny. All I fucking care about is playing the game, but then again, I dont like coming here and having to read the same type of crap because of some kind of a vendetta against Shawn or whatever it is that his problem is. Do you see me starting this kind of topics? No. I'm only replying because I think that was is being said is wrong and must be set straight. You should be one to talk considering all the "neo soap opera" topics you like to post.

Originally posted by Lord Wolfgang Krauser:
[QB]
Why can't we look forward to SNK stuff instead of fighting about it endlessly?
If anything is killing SNK, its the neo scenes endless paranoia. This is obviously where the money is...

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Thats what I and many others on the board ARE trying to do. The one who seems to have a problem with is DSD. The point of posting is reading AND understanding what you read before you post.

Lets shift this arguement to this thread:

It changes the arguement some now that a 3rd party has the actual cart-in-question (me! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> ) http://www.neo-geo.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=10&t=002381

Originally posted by Lord Illicious:
<STRONG>Wouldnt that be from Osaka to New York and then Memphis?</STRONG>

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Nope, from Osaka directly to Memphis.

Originally the 42 cases were to be shipped VIA Fedex from SNK of Japan, but FedEx was not able to handle the shipment in a timely manner (it would have been out last week) because of the events that occured, so SNK offered to send them VIA UPS which got them here faster.

So, they left SNK's warehouse in Osaka, landed in Alaska to go thru customs, and then went directly to Memphis.

But, anyway, all of that is a mute point because:

SNK of Japan made the cartridges.
SNK of Japan created and printed the artwork.
SNK of Japan shipped all of the items directly to Memphis.
Apple confirms it as being the truth.

What place does Apple have in this? They are concentrated on the Arcade market with the Neo Print machines, and selling MVS carts. Their biggest interest is support of the Neo Geo, and their partner SNK. English MS3 is from SNK, hence, Apple being a partner with SNK will assist in the promotion of the titles since they are located in the same territory as Neo-Geo.Com. Promotion for this will mean more sales to SNK, more business potential to Apple, and future English titles from at Neo-Geo.Com! Capitalism at work!

If anyone wants to further argue this point, and claim 'Apple made these' or come up with some other conspiracy theories, I suggest you goto:
http://www.ngfusa.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi

You will just be wasting space here (this is not directed at anyone specifically). This site specializes in that kind of thing from what I am told of the posts there right now. (I'm told they are even quoting what we post, lurking here, pretty pathetic).

"Whose telling you not speak your mind? You always do. I'm not even talking about YOU. What was being said by DSD is that basically we are all fools for believing Shawn and that we're buying some kind of forged, 2nd class good. All I'm saying is to BACK UP what you are saying. Read what I wrote damnit."

I never said anyone was telling me that.
I am glad you think I always speak my mind, however this is NOT true.
On some occasions I do not speak my mind.
Sometimes I just say "fuck it" I have the choice to read and not read you cannot force me to do a thing. Control freak? I think so.

I NEVER SAID ANYTHING THAT NEEDED BACKING, reread this if the font is not large enough.
Also if your not talking about me, do not quote my typing as it is directed towards me and of course, I will act accordingly. However I am not going to demand you do things I am just suggesting it. SUGGESTING IT.
Your eyes take you where you want to go. Not mine.

"What was being said by DSD is that basically we are all fools for believing Shawn and that we're buying some kind of forged, 2nd class good"

However if you had true faith in Shawns actions then you would not have even fathomed that idea <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

"No shit its fucking corny. All I fucking care about is playing the game, but then again, I dont like coming here and having to read the same type of crap because of some kind of a vendetta against Shawn or whatever it is that his problem is. Do you see me starting this kind of topics? No. I'm only replying because I think that was is being said is wrong and must be set straight. You should be one to talk considering all the "neo soap opera" topics you like to post."

If you do not like coming here to read things that are bad, then simply do not click or read any further into the topic as you know it has bad intentions from the very first page. (this thread for example).
I do not see you starting these kinds of topics, I do however see you contributing undeeded hatred in this thread though.
As for facts? Fuck facts, you know why?
I don't need them, I say what I say not a single thing in this world is 100% proven fact, not even your awareness.
If its real its real, the mirror effect if its fake.
Only time will tell. /end SUGGESTION
This topic should have been moved to the warroom from square 1. I have no proof of either therefore it does not concern me, the comments I make are somtimes meant to be purposely off subject.

"No. I'm only replying because I think that was is being said is wrong and must be set straight"

So you personally think your one response will end this, especially after so many others tried before you pages back?
Not a chance, war is going down, one man cannot end a field.
<IMG SRC="smilies/spock.gif" border="0">

"Thats what I and many others on the board ARE trying to do. The one who seems to have a problem with is DSD. The point of posting is reading AND understanding what you read before you post"

I know DSD a bit myself, and I do not think he would pull something like this unless he had a reason to, he is not dumb by any means.
If he thinks something is up then he will bring it public.
Shawn is a good seller, I have bought from him and I know this first hand.
I am not saying the game is fake, I am not saying its real, I am on the side lines.
I am not going to truly get involved as this topic has nothing to do with me, poking a bit of fun can lighten some people up a bit, yet another yelling icon, will not help at all.

About thee comment...I fully understand this topic, I am saddened you see me as someone who cannot even read a topic. Or maybe humor is not in your blood.
I also see you bashing me when I was obviously joking with that statement.

Originally posted by Mouse_Master:
<STRONG>Nope, from Osaka directly to Memphis.

Originally the 42 cases were to be shipped VIA Fedex from SNK of Japan, but FedEx was not able to handle the shipment in a timely manner (it would have been out last week) because of the events that occured, so SNK offered to send them VIA UPS which got them here faster.

So, they left SNK's warehouse in Osaka, landed in Alaska to go thru customs, and then went directly to Memphis.

But, anyway, all of that is a mute point because:

SNK of Japan made the cartridges.
SNK of Japan created and printed the artwork.
SNK of Japan shipped all of the items directly to Memphis.
Apple confirms it as being the truth.

What place does Apple have in this? They are concentrated on the Arcade market with the Neo Print machines, and selling MVS carts. Their biggest interest is support of the Neo Geo, and their partner SNK. English MS3 is from SNK, hence, Apple being a partner with SNK will assist in the promotion of the titles since they are located in the same territory as Neo-Geo.Com. Promotion for this will mean more sales to SNK, more business potential to Apple, and future English titles from at Neo-Geo.Com! Capitalism at work!

If anyone wants to further argue this point, and claim 'Apple made these' or come up with some other conspiracy theories, I suggest you goto:
http://www.ngfusa.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi

You will just be wasting space here (this is not directed at anyone specifically). This site specializes in that kind of thing from what I am told of the posts there right now. (I'm told they are even quoting what we post, lurking here, pretty pathetic).</STRONG>

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If you would like to hear the convo between Apple Photo Systems and i?
They said it went from SNK of Japan to Apple and then to Neo-Geo.com.

Im tired of these fuckin hoes bashing me acting like i have been badmouthin members of neo-geo.com when in fact i have been nice and understanding taking many insult from you many assholes.
Fuck this i aint being nice no more cus respect is a 2 way fuckin street
I suggest you go here http://www.weightwatchers.com/ and wipe the nut out ya eyes and ears.

I regret having stuck my nose in this to be honest with you, because its always the same runaround. The comments I made were all not directed towards you, but some of the ones you made I thought were directed to me. Anyway, it dosent matter. We have much more important things to worry about than a silly MS3 cart and which people think what.

I personally withdraw myself from this senseless argument and will go enjoy what I believe to be a geniune SNK made product.

Originally posted by Lord Illicious:
<STRONG>If you would like to hear the convo between Apple Photo Systems and i?
They said it went from SNK of Japan to Apple and then to Neo-Geo.com.

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And UPS says:

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Status: Delivered
Delivered on: Sep 18, 2001 9:54 A.M.
Delivered to: MEMPHIS, TN, US

Tracking Number: W712 7763 969
Service Type: WORLDWIDE SERVICES

PACKAGE PROGRESS
Date Time Location Activity
Sep 18, 2001 9:54 A.M. MEMPHIS-WALNUT GROVE, TN, US DELIVERY
6:48 A.M. MEMPHIS HUB, TN, US DESTINATION SCAN
6:46 A.M. MEMPHIS HUB, TN, US ARRIVAL SCAN
6:24 A.M. MEMPHIS, TN, US DEPARTURE SCAN
5:59 A.M. OAKHAVEN HUB, TN, US LOCATION SCAN
4:29 A.M. GRADE LANE HUB, KY, US LOCATION SCAN
Sep 17, 2001 3:16 P.M. ANCHORAGE HUB, AK, US IMPORT SCAN
2:19 P.M. ANCHORAGE HUB, AK, US LOCATION SCAN
1:57 P.M. JP - ARIAKE CENTER, JP UPS INTERNAL ACTIVITY CODE
1:55 P.M. JP - ARIAKE CENTER, JP UPS INTERNAL ACTIVITY CODE
9:16 A.M. ANCHORAGE HUB, AK, US MORE CUSTOMS INFORMATION REQUIRED;RELEASED BY CUSTOMS. NOW IN-TRANSIT
9:16 A.M. ANCHORAGE HUB, AK, US MORE CUSTOMS INFORMATION REQUIRED;RELEASED BY CUSTOMS. NOW IN-TRANSIT
Sep 14, 2001 9:20 P.M. JP - OSAKA, JP ORIGIN SCAN
7:17 P.M. ANCHORAGE HUB, AK, US WAREHOUSE SCAN
3:37 P.M. ANCHORAGE HUB, AK, US IMPORT SCAN
10:16 A.M. ANCHORAGE HUB, AK, US MORE CUSTOMS INFORMATION REQUIRED
10:16 A.M. ANCHORAGE HUB, AK, US MORE CUSTOMS INFORMATION REQUIRED
9:16 A.M. ANCHORAGE HUB, AK, US MORE CUSTOMS INFORMATION REQUIRED

Tracking results provided by UPS: Sep 20, 2001 3:27 P.M. Eastern Time (USA)

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There are the facts right there, plain as day. Please, where can we hear the conversation with Apple?

<STRONG>Im tired of these fuckin hoes bashing me acting like i have been badmouthin members of neo-geo.com when in fact i have been nice and understanding taking many insult from you many assholes.
Fuck this i aint being nice no more cus respect is a 2 way fuckin street
I suggest you go here http://www.weightwatchers.com/ and wipe the nut out ya eyes and ears.</STRONG>

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Your problem is you were posting LIES! You claimed you made calls you did not make (And yes, you did say you called after contact info was provided). You claimed you had solid proof that turned into a mysterious source, that has still not been named. The facts have been presented, and now at least 1 person has his copy in hand and voiced his opinion.

No one started name calling, which you have once again done. You got respect, but obviously you do not need it now. And, why should you deserve it in the first place after this:
http://www.neo-geo.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=7&t=002069

Were you not the same person who went crying to Shawn because some pictures of you were posted in the War Room? Why do I know this? Because I did the clean up. But, I guess it is fine for you to make your jokes, but if they are against you, well, you must go and cry. So, tell me, why do you deserve this so called respect after the above example of the filth you spout? How have you earned it? Pathetic....

Many times people offered to look at the solid proof that was claimed to exist, but never materialized.

How can you claim to be fans of the Neo Geo when now all you are trying to do is harm it?

oh do we have a treat for all you retards....ahahaaaa confirming everything thats been said by us....... <IMG SRC="smilies/veryangry.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/tickled.gif" border="0">

That's cool, DSD. I think everyone would be interested in seeing any additional information. We all just want to stay informed.

Originally posted by DRUNKEN SHAOLIN DEVIL:
<STRONG>oh do we have a treat for all you retards....ahahaaaa confirming everything thats been said by us....... <IMG SRC="smilies/veryangry.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/tickled.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

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What is it, claims that I drove down to Anchorage, broke into UPS's warehouse, and put freaked carts in the boxes? <IMG SRC="smilies/eek2.gif" border="0">

Your problem is you were posting LIES! You claimed you made calls you did not make (And yes, you did say you called after contact info was provided). You claimed you had solid proof that turned into a mysterious source, that has still not been named. The facts have been presented, and now at least 1 person has his copy in hand and voiced his opinion.

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Your problem is that your too fuckin dumb to show yourself in public with a nut tail behind. I have proof that Apple Photo Systems did in FACT get the MS3 carts from Japan AND ALSO converted them to english FOR neo-geo.com. I have the recorded conversation - would you like to hear?

No one started name calling, which you have once again done. You got respect, but obviously you do not need it now. And, why should you deserve it in the first place after this: http://www.neo-geo.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=7&t=002069

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That thread wasnt mine and wheres is the insult of name calling? You took it that when it was for fun and its your fault you put your pic up of yourself.

I came calmly questioning the authenticity of MS3 not insulting no one and you and some others started throwing me insults and flames that wasnt for fun.

Were you not the same person who went crying to Shawn because some pictures of you were posted in the War Room? Why do I know this? Because I did the clean up. But, I guess it is fine for you to make your jokes, but if they are against you, well, you must go and cry. So, tell me, why do you deserve this so called respect after the above example of the filth you spout? How have you earned it? Pathetic....

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Crying to Shawn? No my picture was up with a 9mm which could get me in trouble dickhead but i took care of that asshole myself like i always do.

Many times people offered to look at the solid proof that was claimed to exist, but never materialized.

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Well now that your nut is on the other foot you and everyone said what they said and now i have proof of the real shit of whats going down.

How can you claim to be fans of the Neo Geo when now all you are trying to do is harm it?

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Da hell you think ive been doing? A true fan cares and what the truth out but many cant handle the fucking truth.
Have a nice nut

Originally posted by DRUNKEN SHAOLIN DEVIL:
<STRONG>oh do we have a treat for all you retards....ahahaaaa confirming everything thats been said by us....... <IMG SRC="smilies/veryangry.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/tickled.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

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Hey great and while you're at it, why not tell us what dumbass has been feeding you all this garbage? Might improve your nonexistent credibility here . . . <IMG SRC="smilies/loco.gif" border="0">

ahhhhhagaaaaaaaaaaaa listen to that you dumb ASS..

home cartridge conversions for consumer sold through apple to neogeo.com QUOTED!!!

NOOOWWWWW KISS MY ASSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!! <IMG SRC="smilies/makeface.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/makeface.gif" border="0">

Originally posted by DRUNKEN SHAOLIN DEVIL:
<STRONG>ahhhhhagaaaaaaaaaaaa listen to that you dumb ASS..

home cartridge conversions for consumer sold through apple to neogeo.com QUOTED!!!

NOOOWWWWW KISS MY ASSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!! <IMG SRC="smilies/makeface.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/makeface.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

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Uh, I think you're confused cause I can't understand wtf you're saying . . . as usual. <IMG SRC="smilies/ohno.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/ohno.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/ohno.gif" border="0">

Originally posted by DRUNKEN SHAOLIN DEVIL:
<STRONG>ahhhhhagaaaaaaaaaaaa listen to that you dumb ASS..

home cartridge conversions for consumer sold through apple to neogeo.com QUOTED!!!

NOOOWWWWW KISS MY ASSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!! <IMG SRC="smilies/makeface.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/makeface.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

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The tooth fairly really exists. There is proof and everything! Um, I do not have a source on that, though. <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">

I can't figure out why we are still adding to this thread since 99.9% of us on the board know for fact that MS3 is an authentic SNK release.

Originally posted by BioMotor_Unitron:
<STRONG>The tooth fairly really exists. There is proof and everything! Um, I do not have a source on that, though. <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

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HAHAHAHAHA, Biomotor you crack me up!! <IMG SRC="smilies/loco.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/loco.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/loco.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/loco.gif" border="0">

All right,

I just called Apple Photo Systems myself (888.607.2444 ) talked to the receptionist and then talked to Bob Douglas, sales rep., himself. He said "We don't deal with the Home system"
he also said "As far as I know, no company in America deals with the home system." He had no idea about the home system at all -they've never dealt with it.

Now... What does that tell us? Does it defend this bullshit being spouted by DSD? Nope, sorry. It defends the truth:

Shawn independently negotiated and financed this directly with SNK, who sent him the games directly.

Sorry, after actually talking to this guy -I reconfirmed what I've already known: The truth.