"AES"

chainsawyak · Jan 6, 2001

Hey there people. I've been thinking about it, and the term "AES" really bugs me... Why do people use it? Where did it come from? Did SNK officially coin that term? As far as I can tell it's a stupid buzz word NGF concocted, and for some reason it stuck. Something else that bugs me is that it's only used to refer to home cartridges. AES stands for "Advanced Entertainment System", correct? As far as I can tell Neo Geo CD games are probably more advanced than their ROM-cart counterparts due to the fact that they are on CDs, and they are just as much entertainment last I checked... So shouldn't I be able to say "I have this nice shiny Last Blade 2 AES CD"? I dunno, something about the term "AES" just seems kinda silly... Wouldn't it be a lot easier to just say "home cart", "MVS" or "CD" respectively? Does anybody else agree with me about that? It seems (if it was a term invented by NGF)that as much as people, myself included, want to forget about NGF as people and as a business they would stop using that term and call them by their real names. Who agrees with me? Anybody?

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peterr928 · Jan 6, 2001

look on the front of the AES system box and it says ADVANCED ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM...hmmmmm there we go

chimpmeister · Jan 6, 2001

I agree, it seems like NGF pushed the "AES" term, and I don't like it much either.

I much prefer home cart, MVS cart, and CD as terms for the respective media.

The Neo Geo's sub-name is "Advanced Entertainment System" (and don't forget the "Pro Gear Spec" phrase they used on the box, and in games as well). But that's no reason to call the games "AES" cartridges. I'd sooner use "home carts" myself . . .

peterr928 · Jan 6, 2001

ohhhh home carts are good
:rolleyes

Silent_Scope · Jan 6, 2001

None-Converted Cart is a better term

DigiPunk · Jan 6, 2001

Agreed. "AES" seems kinda hokey to me. If that, why not "PGS" for Pro Gear Spec?? I prefer home cart also..

NeoSneth · Jan 6, 2001

Pro Gear Spec PGS
kinda catchy

twalden · Jan 7, 2001

The NGF site was the first place I saw "AES" used. I've been into the neo scene for years and never heard it used until about a year ago. Unconverted max 330 mega pro gear spec cartridge recepticle should be the new name.

Caris Nautilus · Jan 7, 2001

NGF were the first people that really used AES alot. I think the term is quite gay myself.

I just say MVS, Home Cart and CD.

The "Advanced Entertainment System" was never meant to be the term for the home cart games, It was just a tag line for people to buy it, So AES is kinda weird to use.

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rstreck · Jan 7, 2001

I agree, it's a Dion invented term and should no longer be used. Personally I have never used the term "AES" to describe anything. I think it's stupid.

Ryan

Dreamh2o · Jan 7, 2001

Someones post a few months back explained that AES is not the correct term, the reason people have used AES is that it appears on the Motherboard for the "Advanced Entertainment System" and MVS on the MVS arcade board... on the inside of the cartridges for home use however I belive it says AEC, Advance Entertainment Cartridge? Someone else pointed this out a few weeks ago.. I may be incorrect, but there is a correct SNK offical name for the cartridges for home use, and its not AES.

Neo Bomber Man · Jan 7, 2001

From all that I know, the term "AES" is years old, from "Advanced Entertainment System" that appears on the box, as other have said. Dion began using it non-stop last year, and it stuck somehow. The funny thing is, he claims to have invented the term, and then called people stupid for not using it...

I myself think it sounds retarded. Home/ROM/(insert nationality)/<nothing at all> cart(ridge) is perfectly fine for me. People know what I mean and so do I, no silly acronyms here.

PrOzErG · Jan 7, 2001

I agree to "AES" i dont like the term at all.

Big Bruno · Jan 7, 2001

Well I think I went into this once before but

"AES" is on the CD system, the MVS system and the NEO home system. SNK's true acroynm for the systems are as follows

NGH For neo geo homecarts
NGCD for neo geo cd's and
NGM for neo geo MVS

You can look on the spines or back of your carts, cds and on the older mvs carts. this is how the are refered to and where the NGH numbers came from.

I usally say homecarts, sometimes I slip AES but personaly now I will use NGH

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kyoisthekof · Jan 7, 2001

Hehehehe how picky we are!

Dreamh2o · Jan 8, 2001

Im in the tropical fish hobby and I buy products from a company called AQUATIC ECO SYSTEMS, better known as AES so whenever somone says AES I think fish not Neo Geo.

BioMotor_Unitron · Jan 8, 2001

Several of the home carts I have say AEP- followed by a number on the inserts. Is there a word that starts with "P" that could be used to describe a cartridge? Or is the "P" for "Paper," to describe the insert? Advanced Entertainment Paper?

-BioMotor_Unitron

Big Bruno · Jan 8, 2001

europe carts I believe have NEO-AEP on them and the NGH number underneath. I really do not know what it stands for I can only assume it is some region code. maybe the P is for PAL since the neo europe versions are PAL standard instead of NTSC.

And really I didn't mean to sound picky on my last post just Giving out the information I know. People can call carts whatever they want I was just offering what SNK used.

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BioMotor_Unitron · Jan 8, 2001

I do not have any Euro home carts, just American and Japanese. I can list what titles had the AEP if you like, I am curious about it as well.

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Big Bruno · Jan 8, 2001

I just remember my Puzzled cart has it and it is a euro cart,

ok how about this

Neo "advanced Entertainment Product"

sound good

Big Bruno · Jan 8, 2001

now that I think about it that does sound about right. only my old carts have the Neo AEP on them I can not visuallize my new neo carts with it. I am at work now so I can not check.

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Neo Fan · Jan 8, 2001

Originally posted by Big Bruno:
SNK's true acroynm for the systems are as follows

NGH For neo geo homecarts
NGCD for neo geo cd's and
NGM for neo geo MVS

[This message has been edited by Big Bruno (edited January 07, 2001).]

Then why do all games have NGH numbers, even MVS only and CD only?

Anthony

BioMotor_Unitron · Jan 8, 2001

That sounds about right, Big_Bruno. I think it is the older home carts that have AEP on them. I will make a list and post it here sometime in the next twenty-four hours.

"Advanced Entertainment Product." I like the sound of that.

-BioMotor_Unitron

Big Bruno · Jan 8, 2001

Originally posted by Neo Fan:

Then why do all games have NGH numbers, even MVS only and CD only?

Anthony

actually you can probably blame me for that one.

when I started a list back in 94-95 I listed everything by NGH numbers just becuase that is what I saw on the homecart. I latter discovered that this really is not accurate for all games but the NGH still exist.

if you really think about it the corresponding CD is not really the same game.

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