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    Quote Originally Posted by KaNyErO
    @ large : i think having roms without the real board is ilegal too.
    Yes it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by KaNyErO
    I think snk allows the usage of its material for fan made games (for example mugen).
    No they don't. Playmore e.g. stopped the development of Neo Pong some time ago.
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    Since the games converted are quite old and dont have support, and there are not profits with them i think there will be not problems at all
    I believe they like to make profit out of old games, too. Maybe later on in some kind of collection like Midway Arcade Treasures. Atm they sell MS3 for Xbox and PS2.

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    Thanks Jeff for the info could prove useful :P

    Sound is something i badly lack on MVS... i can play a "sound" that already exists in puzzledp, puzzled or crossed sword but that s it

    Well, i have a hard time enough with gameplay to bother thinking about sound right now anyway ^^

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    Hello

    i copy some game in a CDRW and i try it in a CDZ and a CD1, so anyone run in a real hardware

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    Quote Originally Posted by Large
    Yes it is.
    No it's not. Changes were made to the DMCA a year
    ago with a sub-section that stated if a game/software product
    was to use specific hardware and providing said product and
    hardware were not readily available in the marketplace that
    one could own the roms for preservation purposes.

    If you're talking gamecube, xbox or ps2 you can bet your
    ass it's jailtime. If you're talking NG then we are talking
    about a now officially non-supported format which is
    and has been dead in the marketplace for years
    and either through emulation or AES/MVS it does require
    the specific hardware or emulated version thereof to play.

    Feel free to search the net, this is common knowledge
    now to most IP attourneys and game developers.
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    please try this games:

    gururin *
    neo mr do *
    andro dunnos *
    king of the monsters
    panic bomber
    puzzle de pon
    legend of succes joe
    janshin

    maybe newer ones has any kind of protection :S

    * those games were converted by cdoty and his conversions seems to work, so maybe mine should too.

    for those who made coasters, have you verified your cd runs in any emulator?

    i think that maybe the way the cd is burn could affect the compatibility (mode1 or mode 2, with or without CDA tracks...)..... or maybe just a bug in abs.txt bib.txt and cpy.txt .... PSSSSS DONT TOUCH IPL.TXT

    edit: those txt were verified against zintrick so they should be ok
    Last edited by KaNyErO; 02-22-2005 at 05:08 PM.

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    I'd be so happy if Money Idol Exchanger could be converted to Neo CD !

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    Hello KaNyErO

    so i try the CD with a PC émulator (NeoGeoCD), and he not run, so it's probably my copy, i will try to modificat him

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    Since a CD conversion of some existing carts won't add better music (since there are taken from the cartdrige) and will add loading times, I don't see the point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert
    Since a CD conversion of some existing carts won't add better music (since there are taken from the cartdrige) and will add loading times, I don't see the point.
    Well, the point can be that some people own a NGCD but don't own a cart system, so this a way to play in real hardware games they were not allowed to before. This is the only reason I can see, because playing them in an PC emulator is totally pointless, better just use the regular roms. I also heard some people may want this to be able to use the Dreamcast NGCD emulator as there's no rom emulator for it, but that is, in my opinion, kinda lame (that's what the xbox rom emu is for )

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    I see your point Amano and it makes sense.

    Playing conversions (I wrote emu in the first place but I corrected it since I don't want to pollute this thread with an useless conversion/emulation argument) on a real hardware sounds better than playing emu on a PC/Xbox.
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    i will try those games on my cdz when i buy some new cds.... ( da un poco palo sorry ^^U )


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    Quote Originally Posted by OlderGames
    No it's not. Changes were made to the DMCA a year
    ago with a sub-section that stated if a game/software product
    was to use specific hardware and providing said product and
    hardware were not readily available in the marketplace that
    one could own the roms for preservation purposes.

    If you're talking gamecube, xbox or ps2 you can bet your
    ass it's jailtime. If you're talking NG then we are talking
    about a now officially non-supported format which is
    and has been dead in the marketplace for years
    and either through emulation or AES/MVS it does require
    the specific hardware or emulated version thereof to play.

    Feel free to search the net, this is common knowledge
    now to most IP attourneys and game developers.
    Bootlegs from Neo Geo games are legal? I still doubt this.

    Cheers
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    i try to copy cd again and again but nothings run with an emulator too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert
    Playing conversions (...) on a real hardware sounds better than playing emu on a PC/Xbox.
    PC and X-Box are fake hardware ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Large
    Bootlegs from Neo Geo games are legal? I still doubt this.

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    Did I say that? I said ROM's. Selling bootlegs is illegal because you
    are taking a profit, giving them away "which nobody would do" is
    legally grey. Making a derivative of an existing copyrighted product
    is also illegal less of course you are able to use more or equal to
    at least 50% original work. Making CD-based derivatives of
    Chip-Based games is legally grey since converting between such
    formats could be argued as a ported derivative of an original
    copyrighted work and therefore be original in itself as a standalone
    port of said copyrighted work.

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    This project is friggin cool..

    BTW, no chance at all for porting Metal Slug 3 to Neo CD?

    (If amount of room is a problem, could you make it a 2 cd game?)


    Also, Id LOVE to see the following ported from MVS to Neo CD:

    - Shock Troopers

    - Shock Troopers 2

    - Metal Slug 3

    - Metal Slug X

    - Blazing Star




    Oh yeah and will the Neo CD emulator on Dreamcast play Burned Neo CD games? (either in its current version (9.3) or eventually?)

    Because while getting say, Blazing Star, on Neo CD is darn cool, playing it on a Dreamcast (with virtually NO load times at all) is even COOLER

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hmkay
    PC and X-Box are fake hardware ?
    Yes

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    Just wanted to report that i burned Zupapa and tryed it on my neogeo CD. THe thing just loads for a while, and then the screen goes back to the neo CD sign that loads up when you start the machine (it loops)

    so i guess zupapa doesnt work on a real neo cd


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    ms3... HAHAA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kumavnmitsurugi
    Just wanted to report that i burned Zupapa and tryed it on my neogeo CD. THe thing just loads for a while, and then the screen goes back to the neo CD sign that loads up when you start the machine (it loops)

    so i guess zupapa doesnt work on a real neo cd
    the Neo Geo Cd begin to loading or she don't know the CD ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhowerter
    Oh yeah and will the Neo CD emulator on Dreamcast play Burned Neo CD games? (either in its current version (9.3) or eventually?)
    Yes, it plays the real games or burned ones.
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    Can someone make all neo CD 's play on x-box as I am sick of playing all my neo CD's on my neo CD as I can't keep bothering 2 play them all.
    My friend said he's got one that has all AES games BUT I HATE the AES music, so can one make all neo CD s play on x-box and still have ALL the music and make it save like that and even play music like in the beginning ?

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    icon17.gif REMOVAL REQUEST!

    i'm the author of neonopanepon, 2500 and systemcheck - i never released a cd-version and i don't like this hacked fake-releases.

    please remove this ASAP!

    blastar...
    Last edited by blastar; 02-27-2005 at 12:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blastar
    i'm the author of neonopanepon, 2500 and systemcheck - i never released a cd-version and i don't like this hacked fake-releases.

    please remove this ASAP!

    blastar...

    Ok all your works have been deleted, sorry for the inconveniences, there wont be more hacked games from your works.

    for those making coasters: try to verify if your games run in emulators, and try to burn the older games not just those newer games.
    Last edited by KaNyErO; 02-27-2005 at 02:24 PM.

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