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    icon18.gif Mod MVS 1 FZ to Stereo? How to

    apparantly its possible to mod your MVS 1 FZ slot to Stereo sound...:
    http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showth...ght=mvs+stereo

    Anyone who knows how? I could see 2 connections at the volume controll at 1 of the pics but... dont know how to do? anyone who can help me out?

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    Sure it's possible to get stereo from the MV-1FZ as the op amp C844G still outputs separate audio channels. I did this to my MV-1B.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MKL
    Sure it's possible to get stereo from the MV-1FZ as the op amp C844G still outputs separate audio channels. I did this to my MV-1B.
    ok... could you explain a little more? Is it the same on 1B as on 1FZ??

    Any guide for this? i have searched the forum and found alot of talk about stereo mod...but no explanation or guide...=/
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    no one who can help me out? =(
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    Give me a couple days and I can send you a picture...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMKurtz
    Give me a couple days and I can send you a picture...

    Jeff

    is it hard? (too hard)
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    I am also interested in seeing how this is done, I was under the impression that the YM2610 outputed single channel data to the DAC. Thought I saw logic for mono or stereo options on the processor.

    Are we saying the YM3016 DAC outputs stereo even on a mono board (or some versions), then the analog L & R is combined for mono to the output stage ??

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    I will double check my work as I've only consolized one MV-1FZ in the past and I may have made some assumptions on the audio circuit that may hold true on the AES, but not on the MV-1FZ -vs- other MVS boards... The 1FZ that I consolized and sold is on the way back to me because of some graphic glitches (rough shipping?). Once it is here, I will examine the audio circuit closer.

    In either case, the YM3016 DAC (according to the pinout) has two channel output.

    I also have the schematic of the 1FZ burried somewhere, which I will dig out -- it will tell me a lot more

    To be continued...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMKurtz

    I also have the schematic of the 1FZ burried somewhere, which I will dig out -- it will tell me a lot more

    To be continued...
    Wow, that would be realy helpfull, not only for this topic

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    Great! Im buying a 1FZ slot now, and wait for your instructions!
    this will be interesting =)
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    I'm of to Phoenix, AZ for the weekend so I won't be able to check this out until I get back on Tuesday.

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    But it is possible right? to add stereo that is? cuz i dont want to buy a mvs1fz now if it later turns out that its not doable.. =)

    Quote Originally Posted by JMKurtz
    I will double check my work as I've only consolized one MV-1FZ in the past and I may have made some assumptions on the audio circuit that may hold true on the AES, but not on the MV-1FZ -vs- other MVS boards... .
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    Quote Originally Posted by bytestorm
    But it is possible right? to add stereo that is? cuz i dont want to buy a mvs1fz now if it later turns out that its not doable.. =)
    Anything is possible, if you are in doubt buy a stereo board already

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttooddddyy
    Anything is possible, if you are in doubt buy a stereo board already
    i have searched ... but i cant get a hold of a stereo board at Reasonable price...=/
    besides.. tha mvs1fz is Much smaller =)))
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    Quote Originally Posted by bytestorm
    i have searched ... but i cant get a hold of a stereo board at Reasonable price...=/
    besides.. tha mvs1fz is Much smaller =)))
    Have faith, Im sure it is possible

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttooddddyy
    Have faith, Im sure it is possible
    sounds good... for my new MV1FZ is in the mail now! on the way to me!
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    Exactly...

    Quote Originally Posted by ttooddddyy
    Are we saying the YM3016 DAC outputs stereo even on a mono board (or some versions), then the analog L & R is combined for mono to the output stage ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMKurtz
    Exactly...
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    Were you able to locate the schem of the FZ

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    Well, I dug out those schematics and they are for the 1F, not the 1FZ... So, I looked at a 1FZ board a little last night and I'm pretty sure I know what needs to be done to get stereo out on this thing...

    It will be a very small mod -- basically removing a couple resistors where the audio is combined to "break" the merge. This will leave you with a place to tap stereo. But...

    The YM2610 also has an audio channel that is used for tones, such as credit entry and character select tones (really dependent upon the individual game I guess)... This is mixed with the left and right channel outputs from the YM3016 DAC via a couple caps and resistors.

    I should have this done tonight and can post pics for those that are interested.

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    I do want to recreate this schematic with Visio or something and make a PDF, but my copy of the schematic is a copy of a copy of a copy, etc. so some of the labels are very hard to read. I may have to locate a 1F board so that I have something to help while I recreate this document.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMKurtz
    I do want to recreate this schematic with Visio or something and make a PDF, but my copy of the schematic is a copy of a copy of a copy, etc. so some of the labels are very hard to read. I may have to locate a 1F board so that I have something to help while I recreate this document.

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    That sounds good! How bout the consolized board you sold? has it returned to you yet? Didnt it have stereo mod... or was it not working correctly? (the stereo mod)
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    Here's a little scheme with the last stages of the sound circuit of a MV-1B:

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...V1Bstereo2.jpg

    The MV-1FZ is practically the same. Basically the channels from the op amp and the YM2610 merge at some point and then go to volume pot-->amp-->jamma out. points marked A and B can be most conveniently taken from the points showed here:

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...MV1Bstereo.jpg

    while C is just pin 27 of the YM2610 sound generator, which on the MV-1B is located on the slot board.

    Just build a simple amp with generic purpose NPN transistors and have ABC through it and you'll have stereo sound at a decent output.

    MV-1FZ, MV-1A and MV-1B share the same sound circuit so what holds for one also holds for the others.

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    I have that 1FZ back for the moment and I am updating it for the buyer. The previous mod wasn't 100% as it was missing the audio channel from the YM2610. I totally overlooked it (D'oh!).

    Jeff

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    This is basically what I did -- I just happened to tap the stereo before the YM2016 audio merge...

    On closer inspection of the 1FZ, I saw that the audio from the YM2016 is merged after the left/right channels are summed, which is why I am removing a couple resistors to "break" that sum on the stereo channels so that I don't have to cut traces, then adding the YM2016 audio channel into the left and right channels independently.

    Thanks MKL, it's nice to know that the 1B and 1A share the same circuit -- I don't have them to look at.

    Jeff

    Quote Originally Posted by MKL
    Here's a little scheme with the last stages of the sound circuit of a MV-1B:

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...V1Bstereo2.jpg

    The MV-1FZ is practically the same. Basically the channels from the op amp and the YM2610 merge at some point and then go to volume pot-->amp-->jamma out. points marked A and B can be most conveniently taken from the points showed here:

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...MV1Bstereo.jpg

    while C is just pin 27 of the YM2610 sound generator, which on the MV-1B is located on the slot board.

    Just build a simple amp with generic purpose NPN transistors and have ABC through it and you'll have stereo sound at a decent output.

    MV-1FZ, MV-1A and MV-1B share the same sound circuit so what holds for one also holds for the others.
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