KoF 2000 US - the truth is out

RyoGeo:
It's nice to have verified what a lot of folks pieced together.

Perhaps a better question to ask is, are they legal. The answer to that is, yes. . . sort of, lol.

The first 50 carts are legal. Carts in addition to 50 are not. Simple as that. Therefore, any carts in circulation that are in addition to the initial 50 are, in legal terms, bootlegs as NGF did not have the right to publish more than 50.

The hard part is, how can you tell? Bottom line is, you can't. Probably most if not all people removed that shit sticker.

The idiot twins can't even help but F' up their own legit release by overstepping the boundries of their agreement with the former SNK. oh_no

In any case, hey, if you want one, they are out there. You can also claim some level of legitimacy as well, but I can assure you, one of those carts will most certainly never be a part of my collection. KoF is the only series I have decided to go completely Japanese due specifically to this mishandling.

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Well put, probably the best view to have over the whole sordid story

Tarma:
Whoever authorised the use of the NGF URL at SNK was acting on SNK behalf, and was obviously authorised to make such decisions by higher powers (well, you'd think anyway).

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Would help to know:
name of this person
any other proof about that,like documents or such

Otherwise,it's just a voice posted on a website.

FTL:

Tarma:
Whoever authorised the use of the NGF URL at SNK was acting on SNK behalf, and was obviously authorised to make such decisions by higher powers (well, you'd think anyway).

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Would help to know:
name of this person
any other proof about that,like documents or such

Otherwise,it's just a voice posted on a website.

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I guess only Vinh could answer that... or whoever his 'contact' is within Playmore.

The release is ruined anyway IF more than 50 copies are in circulation frown

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VanillaThunder:
*yawn*

I don't care.

If it has the NGF name on it, it's worth less in my eyes.

Funny... if Playmore can get *more* than 50 people to let them borrow their KOF2000 US carts, they can nail them on the agreement. Yeah, I know it won't happen.. but hey.. it would be kinda funny.

It's nice to see an informed opinion on the subject, but as far as I can see... If they brought them in to court about KOF 2k, (playmore that is) there's doubt to the authenticity. It may be legit, may not, but hey that's an interesting tid bit.

Ponder that point for a bit.

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*claps* I don't see what the big deal is myself. What's it been, three years? And people are still debating this crap? Folks who hate NGF won't bother with the cart. Folks who either tolerate or actually like NGF are going to be the only ones interested in attaining it. Let this played out episode of the eternal soap opera dry up and blow away like dead grass in the wind, we got other and better things to talk about. Why waste time beating this dead horse? Why not talk about something more upbeat, like Samurai Shodown V?

Tarma:
Whoever authorised the use of the NGF URL at SNK was acting on SNK behalf, and was obviously authorised to make such decisions by higher powers (well, you'd think anyway). Either way you look at it, SNK agreed (vicarious libility and wot not).

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Just like I posted at SNK-Capcom.com, and like Charlie mentioned, it matters who exactly placed the URL on the insert. If it was Dion going into Photoshop to alter it, which is probably what he did considering the octagonal discrepancies found on the cover of the manual and the insert, then it was not made by an SNK-Japan graphical designer and is thus not official in my eyes.

What I find interesting is that Dion never told me that the art work was printed in Japan. He has always maintained the artwork was printed in the US.

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Funny, considering that is the thing he maintained to me since that last week of December 2000 when he convinced me to buy the cart. He has always explicitly stated to me that the game came as is from Japan. He always denied that he printed the item locally. And even when I confronted him the last time a month or so ago, he STILL failed to admit where it was printed, instead mumbling that "Playmore has already authenticated this release in the courts".

If Playmore provided a public statement supporting the release of KoF 2000 US through NGF, would you recognise it as legitimate then? spock

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Legitimacy no longer matters. Although it is official, authorized and legitimate according to Vinh Trieu's source, the mere handling of this item by NGF, their altering of the insert on an unprecedented basis, and the non-standard printing of this release forever taints it and separates it from the remainder of the official SNK-Japan/Playmore produced titles. The rights were sold to NGF and they fucked it up, and anything fucked up by NGF is tainted shit worth only the gameplay you can get out of it, if that.

Sincerely,

Mikhail

Tarma:

kernow:
*cough* man obsessed, *cough*

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Not at all. I just don't like being called a liar. No one would believe me, and seeing as the release was through NGF I don't suppose i blame them. That article just confirms what I knew anyway.

*cough* spamming dead beat troll *cough*

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Who would call you a liar? Idiot, absolutely . . .

Enjoy your fake freaked KOF2K "US" shit, because to any true collector, it is and will always be just that: SHIT. By passing through NGF's hands and having their worthless URL on the insert and manual, it becomes TRASH. And just as I thought, they had plenty of extra inserts lying around, ready to convert more JPN KOF2K carts over to their tainted "US" ones . . . thus, there really is no true measure of the quantity "produced".

You'll always live up to your new catchphrase: NGFUK. Enjoy it . . . lol

After thinking a little more on it, I wonder why Trieu's expose didn't cover everything that Shawn mentioned (to us mods). I mean, Trieu touched on just about everything... but not everything.

I'm not at liberty to detail what Shawn said, so maybe Shawn wants to post his take finally. Maybe not. Probably not. You know Shawn. ... I sure don't.

EvilWasabi:
After thinking a little more on it, I wonder why Trieu's expose didn't cover everything that Shawn mentioned (to us mods). I mean, Trieu touched on just about everything... but not everything.

I'm not at liberty to detail what Shawn said, so maybe Shawn wants to post his take finally. Maybe not. Probably not. You know Shawn. ... I sure don't.

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I think that Shawn owes it to the community if he has something to add to this. Why wait now? Or is it a legal thing?

Shawn, can you legally tell us what you know, or is this a matter of not having a definative answer to the mess.

chimpmeister:
Who would call you a liar? Idiot, absolutely . . . :rolleyes

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Takes one to know one... <img src="http://www.lastgen.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/finger.gif" alt=" - " />

I think this thread is gonna die on the war room... whoa!

tickled

I feel hate coming from everywhere... wink This whole topic will change into a ferocious flamebait.

Nothing we wouldn't be expecting, afterall it's always like this when "KOF2000 US legimity" threads are posted.

They are naturally set for war.

Wonder when this shit about this game will finally end. Most probably never. smirk buttrock