Beware of ebay seller salinpac

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jonny419 said:
the seller is a gayhole or i'm a gayhole? pleez spessifi.

this is a really easy situation. bullshit shipping prices? DON'T FUCKING BUY IT.

how hard is that? especially on neo carts, just come here and by it.

not a single person here has said "the seller is a good one, he's justified in doing this" ** so don't think people are out to get you. NOONE should buy from this dude, though it baffles me how someone actually did.

**except that segafan4lyfe dude who quickly changed his tune due to popular opinion. :lolz:


a ment the seller...... i got a little carried away ....hehe
 

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segafan4life = tampa, fl

billd420 = known swindler

salinpac = probably a marked scammer already

This thread is the scammer reunion 2008.
 

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wasabi said:
segafan4life = tampa, fl

billd420 = known swindler

salinpac = probably a marked scammer already

This thread is the scammer reunion 2008.

This made me...

:lolz:
 

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salinpac said:
First off there is no scam here because

1. The auctions never stated that there was going to be combined shipping, he assumed.
2. He agreed to pay $100 for 4 carts, that is why you are given a second chance to back out before you confirm your bid.
3. If you made $100 would you give $40 back to your buyer because he thought he could cut a deal after the fact.

I am not trying to rip anyone off, I am just stating the facts.

So since you AREN'T combining shipping, are you shipping all 4 carts separately? I see a chargeback coming your way.
 

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billd420 said:
Bibliophile- I did put a lot of thought into my post before I said anything. I don't feel that salinpac was in the wrong here, and thats where my stance stays.

If you walked into walmart, and they asked $100 for a table and chairs, would you honestly try and haggle them down to $80?

If you purchased a book off of amazon.com, and they wanted $20 for shipping, would you write to them asking for a more reasonable shipping rate?

How is it appropriate that after the terms were laid out very clearly within ebay that the buyer then asks for a different final price?

Yeah, maybe his $25 shipping is a little overboard. Yeah, its pretty dick-ish that he won't combine it, however its the principal that I'm discussing here. Entering into the bidding contract means you agree to the terms. You can't decide after you've won the auction that you dont' like the terms.

As far as I'm concerned, the buyer should either bite the bullet, and be more mindful next time around, or come to an agreement with the seller to not carry out the transaction.

For the record, my past has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion at hand. Just because some of you dont' like me doesn't me that my opinion is null and void. (I'm using "you" in general here, not just you Bibliophile)

-Bill

There is no cart (not CPS2, HNG64, MVS, AES, etc) that costs $25 to ship. But while $25 may be excessive to ship cart, that is not my point here at all.

I don't think Salinpac is wrong for charging $25 to ship one cart (even though it is excessive), because Hewitson knew that was the shipping cost for one cart when he bid. If he didn't like it, he should not have bid.

But the seller is being unreasonable by refusing to combine shipping: that is my point. True, he never stated that he would do so. True, it is always good practice to ask the seller if he combines shipping rather than assuming he does. But even after the fact, he is being an a**hole for not combining shipping. I have bought from many ebay sellers who never mention combining shipping but who do it anyway. It is being reasonable.

Your analogy regarding Amazon.com doesn't make sense. Assume they charge $6.95 to ship a book. If a buyer buys ten books, does Amazon charge $69.50 to ship all ten books? No, they put all the books in one package in ship them together at maybe $9.95, $10.95, something like that. If they insisted on charging $6.95 per books, it might work once. After that, they will drive everyone away and earn a reputation for being a lousy seller. That is what Salinpac is doing here: he is going to drive everyone on this site to not do business with him.

Even on ebay, he can will only be able to pull it off once per buyer before they decide not to do business with him again. Or he will get negative feedback or poor seller ratings, or both.

I don't really care, as I am not losing either way. But it shows that the seller is a lousy seller.

Hopefully, Hewitson will learn his lesson from this and not assume that ebay sellers will combine shipping. But if he feels that salinpac is a lousy seller for refusing to combine shipping, he has every right to complain. And that is what he is doing.

And just for the record, Bill, whether or not I like you has never really factored into my viewpoint above because it has not been relevant. My only reason for bringing up your past was because you seemed to discount what I was saying because "A) isn't a mod, B) hasn't been here for even a year and C) has less than 500 posts on these forums." But you sometimes say things that make me (and others) wonder if you consider ethics as a part of selling or not.
 

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Please, just stop it.

Seller charges what many people believe is excessive shipping. EBay is not going after him for it although it appears to be a violation of the rules. Maybe he hasn't been reported, maybe he has and EBay considers this reasonable. I don't know.

Seller does not indicate in description that he will combine fees. This is likely because seller interprets the $25 as part of the selling price to avoid EBay fees. His carts are $25 plus whatever bonus bidding level, shipped.

Buyer made an assumption that combined shipping would be something he could reason out. (I may have done the same thing, even, but I've become wary of EBay sellers.)

Seller said no for whatever reason he chooses.

Buyer has the option to pay or take unpaid item strikes. He has chosen.

Seller has had this method of selling exposed on NG where people can now choose to use his services or not.

That's it, that's everything, it's over.

How many pages of people arguing past each other are we going to have to endure?

Fact: Seller used EBay's rules to structure his auctions this way on purpose and can hold the buyer to the non-combined shipping if he wishes.
Fact: Buyer and many percieve this method of selling douchey and expected more of him, and is letting people know so they do not make the same assumption about him or other sellers.

You are not arguing by shouting these facts back and forth at each other. You are simply wasting your time, because no one is wrong. You're hung up on the word shipping meaning 'the cost of shipment'. It doesn't. It does in my auctions -- actual by weight calculated by EBay plus $1.45 for the packaging materials fund except with specialty items.

Information is there for those who wish to search for it, buyer has made a choice on how to handle it including informing everyone.

There's nothing more worth contributing to this thread except your opinion on whether or not it's moral to use stated shipping and handling fees for anything else besides shipping and handling, and no one cares.
 

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Xian Xi said:
So since you AREN'T combining shipping, are you shipping all 4 carts separately? I see a chargeback coming your way.

Didn't you have to do that with Bill Burger one time?

One thing Salinpac doesn't realize is that excessive shipping rate is actually a ground for a paypal dispute. If Hewitson wanted to be a jerk too, he could just pay the full amount that salinpac is asking, and then turn right around and file a paypal dispute.
 

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jonny419 said:
this is a really easy situation. bullshit shipping prices? DON'T FUCKING BUY IT.

The shipping charge was not specified until after the auction. "Specified" and "stated for one item" are two different statements. This distinction isn't worth fighting over - not because one person is right and another is wrong, but because ebay does have rules stated against this [low auction price + high shipping = less commission for ebay]... so you're right, "this is a really easy situation".
 

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I will say this: It's FUCKING ABSURD to charge 25 for shipping for one Neo cart. Give me a god damn break, that's insane. What pisses me off about this whole thing is I had a deal with the guy not very long ago... my charge for TWO PCBs? 5 bucks. FIVE BUCKS. I guess I should have charged him 50? And he had two different packages go out, and I lost money on it. If the seller wants to do the right thing, he'd pull his head out of his ass and charge the correct amount. The amount for shipping, as it were. After all, that IS what he's charging for.

But, again, people do this all the time. It's retarded, but it happens.
 

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salinpac said:
If you made $100 would you give $40 back to your buyer because he thought he could cut a deal after the fact.

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yea i wuld sins that is the right thing to do. and sin he offerd to pay $50 witch is more then enuff, i can only say ure a smuck... and I for one will never by enything frome you ever... and i realy hope nobody else here on this forum will nether..
 

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gmfbac said:
yea i wuld sins that is the right thing to do. and sin he offerd to pay $50 witch is more then enuff, i can only say ure a smuck... and I for one will never by enything frome you ever... and i realy hope nobody else here on this forum will nether..

Thread winner. Close and lock please.
 

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jonny419 said:
the seller is a gayhole or i'm a gayhole? pleez spessifi.

this is a really easy situation. bullshit shipping prices? DON'T FUCKING BUY IT.

how hard is that? especially on neo carts, just come here and buy it.

not a single person in this thread has said "the seller is a good one, he's justified in doing this" ** so don't think people are out to get you. NOONE should buy from this dude, though it baffles me how someone actually did.

**except that segafan4lyfe dude who quickly changed his tune due to popular opinion. :lolz:

I changed my mind because I ended up reading the whole thread and seeing I was wrong I admit that.

And to that Wasabi dude who the hell are you to call me a scammer?

Would you say that to a 6-2 Opressed Black man to his face! , who is disgruntled with his job?

I dare you.
 

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Segafan4life said:
I changed my mind because I ended up reading the whole thread and seeing I was wrong I admit that.

And to that Wasabi dude who the hell are you to call me a scammer?

Would you say that to a 6-2 Opressed Black man to his face! , who is disgruntled with his job?

I dare you.

what is this about a black man, a man is a man... or are you racist=skared of black people? :mr_t: i pitty da fool....
 

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Just an FYI, USPS has just introduced a bigger flat rate box for Priority mail.

12” x 12” x 5-1/2”

USPS.com said:
Can be used for Domestic Priority Mail ($12.95) and International Priority Mail ($29.95 to Canada and Mexico; $49.95 to all other countries, 20 lb weight limit applies)

So ya.
 

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gmfbac said:
what is this about a black man, a man is a man... or are you racist=skared of black people? :mr_t: i pitty da fool....

I was talking about myself. See my flag. It is where my ancestors came from. I am named after that country in Africa. Can you guess what it is called?
 

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gmfbac said:
what is this about a black man, a man is a man... or are you racist=skared of black people? :mr_t: i pitty da fool....

Coming from someone from Sweden? :spock: Just wow. That was probably racist. :lolz:
 

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Spike Spiegel said:
lol, welcome to the internet. I see you're new here. 90% of ebayers do this.

I've never seen someone on Ebay charge twice what actual shipping costs. 20% more, sure, all the time. Ebay has a strong policy against fee avoidance through shipping gouging and there is no reason anyone from this board should be trying to rip people off on shipping. End of story.
 

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wasabi said:
segafan4life = tampa, fl

billd420 = known swindler

salinpac = probably a marked scammer already

This thread is the scammer reunion 2008.

Exactly what I was getting at earlier in the thread, when Bill tried to convince me that I had no right to question the fact that he is doling out trader advice.

He's got questionable ethics AND selective memory. :lolz:
 

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Segafan4life said:
I was talking about myself. See my flag. It is where my ancestors came from. I am named after that country in Africa. Can you guess what it is called?

ok hi chad!
 

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i think this thread is getting out of track so for the ones who wants to continue ive sett upp a continuation thread in the war room...... you are all welcome:)
 

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gmfbac said:
i think this thread is getting out of track so for the ones who wants to continue ive sett upp a continuation thread in the war room...... you are all welcome:)

Lets move this to my Tossed Salad Man Thread
 

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bojay1997 said:
I've never seen someone on Ebay charge twice what actual shipping costs. 20% more, sure, all the time. Ebay has a strong policy against fee avoidance through shipping gouging and there is no reason anyone from this board should be trying to rip people off on shipping. End of story.

End of story because you say so? WTF. Should I go onto ebay right now and look up examples? It most likely won't take me more than a few minutes.

Look, the fact of the matter is, it's wrong. It's fucking wrong that this idiot did this, but he did. It's been done. Tons. I've seen it countless times, and it will always happen. End of story? You fucking wish.

EDIT:

I went to look up other assholes charging too much. Took me 31 seconds:

Look at this. This guy's charging FIFTY dollars to ship a CD and a memory card the size of DashK's dick.

http://cgi.ebay.com/NAMCO-ARCADE-SY...ryZ13718QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 
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