SNK deserves some more credit!

Akihabara · Jun 25, 2005

I am sometimes irritated when I read through all these topics and posts.
SNK would be dead, everything they make now sucks anyway and they haven't made a decent game since Samurai Spirits II.
For all those 'so called' fans, why do you even bother coming here anyway?
Being critical is one thing, but if everything sucks anyway, go play on your Xbox or something.

SNK is far from dead, actually I think they should be praised for still bringing 2D games. A new Samurai Spirits for Atomiswave, Neo Geo Battle Coliseum which I played and is great, a new Metal Slug, a new 2d KOF, isn't this what we always asked for? Maybe because I live in Japan and SNK is still alive and kicking in the arcade, I may have a slightly different opinion then you guys in Europe and the US, but come on you should support those guys at SNK at little bit more for bringing us the stuff we have loved for the past 15 years.

RAINBOW PONY · Jun 25, 2005

Okay, thanks for the thoughts. :spock:

Mark of the Wolves · Jun 25, 2005

Akihabara said:
Maybe because I live in Japan and SNK is still alive and kicking in the arcade, I may have a slightly different opinion then you guys in Europe and the US, but come on you should support those guys at SNK at little bit more for bringing us the stuff we have loved for the past 15 years.

This and the fact that you can seemingly overlook the fact that some of these release suck because they are 2D. I want to see them keep making games as much as the next guy, but if they keep making these half assed games I'm just going to give up. I want another Garou: Mark of the Wolves real bad, but I don't think SNK Playmore would do the game justice. A part of me is happy because of that.

I love what they are doing with the King of Fighters, but I'm not sure about everything else.

willywalken · Jun 25, 2005

where can i find some screen shots of the new metal slug 6 anyway?

Dr. Jigglin · Jun 26, 2005

sure SNKP needs praise and all but they havent really made any games that make you go OMFG BBQ, know what im saying?

sure im looking forward to sequels of the Neo classics like SS and KOF but we need something new....and i dont think SNKP is going to deliver what we want for quite some time.

qube · Jun 26, 2005

lachlan said:
sure SNKP needs praise and all but they havent really made any games that make you go OMFG BBQ, know what im saying?

Developed by Eolith...but, KOF 2k2. I actually enjoy most of the SNKP releases. They're not the greatest games ever made (2k2 is the exception), but they are still a great deal of fun to play.

Q-

roker · Jun 26, 2005

I thought KOF 2003 was the best of the lot so far. They really seemed to start hitting the finer touches again (minus the fact about the tiers, the game is actually quite decent).

but they need to stop raping the source material and rebuild some of these games, instead of transfering the sprites and superimposing them on 3D backgrounds

neo>all · Jun 26, 2005

roker said:
but they need to stop raping the source material and rebuild some of these games, instead of transfering the sprites and superimposing them on 3D backgrounds

Agreed. A part of me wants them to redraw the sprites but another part of me is affraid that they won't do the originals justice.

roker · Jun 26, 2005

neo>all said:
Agreed. A part of me wants them to redraw the sprites but another part of me is affraid that they won't do the originals justice.

I'm sure it won't be that bad

they can just hire the old artists to do the concept art, and then bring it alive

I think it's the time and work factor that deters them

I bet they work in smaller groups now at SNKp

were8kosh · Jun 26, 2005

from what i remember didnt the owner of snk make playmore then buy snk back?

Dr. Jigglin · Jun 26, 2005

it doesnt matter if the CEO bought it back and made Playmore, allot of the programmers left so the games went downhill.

roker · Jun 26, 2005

were8kosh said:
from what i remember didnt the owner of snk make playmore then buy snk back?

most of the old programmers left

most notable were the programmers that made LB/LB2/MOTW

neo>all · Jun 26, 2005

lachlan said:
it doesnt matter if the CEO bought it back and made Playmore, allot of the programmers left so the games went downhill.

kinda makes me wonder what the games would have been like if that hadn't happened.

roker · Jun 26, 2005

neo>all said:
kinda makes me wonder what the games would have been like if that hadn't happened.

lack of progression

I can't wait for NGBC

hopefully it'll renew some faith

Takumaji · Jun 26, 2005

Well...

SNKP deserves less shit talk, that's for sure, and more ppl who actually play the games first before jumping to conclusions and judge them on a per-game basis.

However, I don't subscribe to this "they should be praised for still bringing 2D games" line of thinking. From the perspective of a game buyer/gamer/consumer, it's dangerous to forgive and forget flaws that otherwise would have led to a total failure of a game, because companies sooner or later take notice and tend to abuse this 'state of survival' by churning out utter crap that only meets the one and only required goal of being 2D.

RBjakeSpecial · Jun 26, 2005

Akihabara said:
For all those 'so called' fans, why do you even bother coming here anyway?

AMEN!!! Yes. Why do people bash Matrimelee, KOF2k3, and SSVzero before even playing them?? These are usually the same people that post a million "gameplay over grahixx!!!OMG" threads.

Sure SNKP is NOT SNK when they were at their peak, but SNKP is getting better and better and they do understand the gameplay elements that make fighters good.

The gameplay elements of KOF2k2, Matrimelee and SSVspecial are incredible. They have deep gameplay and passable graphics. There is a lot of negativetly surrounding these titles by neo-geo.com members that-"I don't even own a neogeo" OMG LOL.... fuck you!

KOF XI and SStenka are great titles (based off of what I've played at the loc tests) and people just need to be a little more optimistic. Give them a chance. If you don't like the gameplay that's fine, but I'm sick of people judging these games before they even play them.

We would all love SNK to be back in it's glory days. My favorite year is 95... Real Bout/Kof95= PURE GAMING BLISS. But we're getting back into quality with these new tittles.

Hmkay · Jun 26, 2005

RBjakeSpecial said:
AMEN!!! Yes. Why do people bash Matrimelee, KOF2k3, and SSVzero before even playing them??

Yeah...
Am I the only one who thought about kernow while reading this ? I'm sure this concerns other people as well, but I'm not really up to date about the whiners here...

roker · Jun 26, 2005

Hmkay said:
Yeah...
Am I the only one who thought about kernow while reading this ? I'm sure this concerns other people as well, but I'm not really up to date about the whiners here...

You're always going to have whiners, for the rest of us, we can enjoy these games and forget about the complainers.

Personally I can't wait to play KOF XI, NGBC, and SS:Tenka. I don't think it's so much the lack of 2D gaming (because that does have a part in it), but rather I thought their last few efforts were actually pretty good and I'm sure with more time they'll just get better and better.

kernow · Jun 26, 2005

Hmkay said:
Yeah...
Am I the only one who thought about kernow while reading this ? I'm sure this concerns other people as well, but I'm not really up to date about the whiners here...

Give me MOTW or ss2 over any of these new titles.

tsukaesugi · Jun 26, 2005

were8kosh said:
from what i remember didnt the owner of snk make playmore then buy snk back?

The change from "Playmore" to "SNK Playmore" was in name only.

Before the original SNK went under, they were bought out by a giant pachinko company named "Aruze". Aruze's mishandling was what finally helped bankrupt SNK. (There are one or two Aruze pachinko / slot games for the Neo Geo Pocket).

At one point Aruze would have owned the intellectual property rights to the characters, Kawasaki (the SNK/ Playmore / SNKP President) must have bought these back before starting up SNKP.

There was also a lawsuit soon after Playmore reformed- Aruze was still using the old SNK characters (on pachinko machines I guess), and so Playmore sued.

Abster · Jun 26, 2005

SS5 Special was great, but that's the only quality game they came out with. SS6 looks to have great gameplay but it's presentation as a matsuri festival is terrible, just a feeble excuse for them to cut out the blood.

Dr. Jigglin · Jun 26, 2005

i cant wait to play KOFXI and SStenka and NGBC
hopefully they will be good

SNK deserves some more credit!

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