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some of those screenshots make it look kinda like rival schools. Looks like fun, I'll have to give that one a go.
 

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I have an Atomiswave with the following:

Demolish Fist (Japanese)

The Knight of Valor 7 Spirits (Japanese)

Dolphin Blue (Japanese)

Guilty Gear Isuka (Japanese, PS2 verson is better)



About KOV 7 Spirits: GS is indeed a Chinese company.

Also, does anyone know the code to get the 7th Character? I know its done at the character select screen. You fight him later in the game, but hese not the real end boss. I think you must use him to see the "True" end boss, but I'm not sure.
 

Amano Jacu

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I just made some pics of KOV but either my camera is total crap or I don't know how to picture a screen. The game looks much better in reality than in these pics, specially on the TV.

This is on my TV:

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And these are in hi-res in my monitor:

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terry.330

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I have an Atomiswave with Dolphin Blue.

I must say I have gotten alot more play time out of DB than I expected.

Still want to pic up:

Neowave
KOV
GG 1.5
 

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thanks Amano

that is a huge difference. do the characters look as pixelated as that? that's a real shame...

would be cool if IGS brought some of their other games to the system
 

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Amano Jacu said:
I just made some pics of KOV but either my camera is total crap or I don't know how to picture a screen. The game looks much better in reality than in these pics, specially on the TV.

How do you connect a Atomiswave board to a TV? What cable do you use?
 

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Seijuro Hiko said:
How do you connect a Atomiswave board to a TV? What cable do you use?

I play mine on my tv via the same supergun I use on my MVS. Not really a cable, per se.
 

Amano Jacu

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Seijuro Hiko said:
How do you connect a Atomiswave board to a TV? What cable do you use?

As it's been said, to connect any arcade board to a TV you need a full device called a supergun. The Atomiswave can also be hooked to a VGA monitor with a regular VGA cable, but you will also need to power-up the board and wire controls and sound, so a supegun is still needed.
Check these threads for more info:
http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83242
http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91033

DR said:
that is a huge difference. do the characters look as pixelated as that? that's a real shame...

As I said the pics are not great, but in the TV the game looks very good. The sprites are 2D and have a zoom/scaling effect when coming close/far to the screen, but the pixelation is not that bad. However, in the monitor they look terribly pixelated, even the backgrounds look quite bad. This game is meant to be played in low-res.

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By the way, I just looked at my carts and found some very small letters that seem to show the region in the lower right corner. It doesn't make any difference because both games (and I assume all AW games) have both a region (Japan, America, Europe...) and language (English, Japanese) setting in the options screen. See them, there's JP (Japan) in the KoV and EN (English) in the DF cart:

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The current games I want to get the most are Dolphin Blue (I'd trade any of my games for it) and Neowave. Due to ports I'd only take GGX1.5, Isuka and Rumble Fish if I had a nice offer. And of course, the game I'm looking forward the most is NGBC, too bad I'm pretty sure it will cost around 2000$ on release, I'll have to wait a long time before being able to afford it, and possibly ports will already be out at that time. All the other upcoming games look good too, but I need more info about them before getting really interested.
 

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Does anyone know if AW carts use solid mask roms or are there EEPROMs in there as well?
 

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Freelancer said:
Does anyone know if AW carts use solid mask roms or are there EEPROMs in there as well?

I actually did some pics of the inside of the Demolish Fist cart, those appear to be custom Sammy mask roms. Both sides of the single board in the cart:

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Amano Jacu said:
As I said the pics are not great, but in the TV the game looks very good. The sprites are 2D and have a zoom/scaling effect when coming close/far to the screen, but the pixelation is not that bad. However, in the monitor they look terribly pixelated, even the backgrounds look quite bad. This game is meant to be played in low-res.


I know, its just that on the monitor it looks terrible and just wanted to know if that's the way it looks or if in montion its not as bad.

also, is the game long? and does it have alot of moves per character?
a problem I have with some beat 'em ups such as Mutaion Nation is that the characters fight the same way throughout the game - and if there's no weapons to pick up or no transformation in the character itself it gets dull very quickly. how does this game perform in this respect?
 

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DevilRedeemed said:
I know, its just that on the monitor it looks terrible and just wanted to know if that's the way it looks or if in montion its not as bad.

also, is the game long? and does it have alot of moves per character?
a problem I have with some beat 'em ups such as Mutaion Nation is that the characters fight the same way throughout the game - and if there's no weapons to pick up or no transformation in the character itself it gets dull very quickly. how does this game perform in this respect?

Yeah, the monitor really looks that terrible. TV is OK though.

The game is quite long, 8 stages, and in a lot of stages yo can choose which one to do from a list of 3. Anyway I didn't find a lot of moves per character (I hope Verbatum can correct me), you have a weak and a strong attack buttons, you can do different attacks comboing them, plus 2 special attacks pressing A+B or B+C (consumes a stock), and a berserk mode pressing A+C (unlimited special attacks while in this mode, needs to have the berserk bar full to activate it). There are 6 different characters and they are all quite different. I think that playing 2 players you can do a special combined attack but I haven't played 2 players yet.
 

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Amano Jacu said:
I actually did some pics of the inside of the Demolish Fist cart, those appear to be custom Sammy mask roms. Both sides of the single board in the cart:

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Most interesting.
Thanks for providing the pics!
Since these are rom-based carts, do you suspect that pirates and bootleg makers will eventually catch on and make AW boots? I hope the answer is no, but just curious if there's any sort of copy protection built into the carts or system.
 

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Hey Amano Jacu, thanks for the pics! I've always wondered about that game. If I may ask, where did you buy it (online store, auction, personal seller, etc). Oh yeah I've got an AW w/ GG 1.5.... can't wait for a metal slug and samurai spirits game tho! :buttrock:



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I also own an Atomiswave with Demolish Fist, got them both in a trade with a member here on these boards. Planning to get more games (and another mobo to keep as a spare) when their prices hit rock bottom like most MVS carts have.

@Amano Jacu: Thanks for the screenshots! :buttrock:
 

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Just bumping up this thread (teh +1).

But seriously, thanks for those pics Amano. Lots of good info in this thread for potential/future AW owners.

Keep up the good work.
 

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Amano Jacu said:
As it's been said, to connect any arcade board to a TV you need a full device called a supergun. The Atomiswave can also be hooked to a VGA monitor with a regular VGA cable, but you will also need to power-up the board and wire controls and sound, so a supegun is still needed.
Check these threads for more info:
http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83242
http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91033

Alright thank, but for that I can use a Arcade Sigma too, can I?
 

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Freelancer said:
Most interesting.
Thanks for providing the pics!
Since these are rom-based carts, do you suspect that pirates and bootleg makers will eventually catch on and make AW boots? I hope the answer is no, but just curious if there's any sort of copy protection built into the carts or system.

Well, the game data is supposed to be heavily encrypted, the biggest chip is the logic desencryptor. It's supposed not to be able to be bootlegged. Naomi is a much older system and as far as I know it hasn't been pirated.

SL said:
If I may ask, where did you buy it (online store, auction, personal seller, etc).

I traded it for some Naomi games to a member here. He got it from the (in)famous German on-line dealer arcaderick.

SH said:
Alright thank, but for that I can use a Arcade Sigma too, can I?

Yes, any JAMMA compatible supergun should work, as the AW is fully JAMMA.

Verbatum said:
No info on the 7th spirit eh?

I really have no idea, and there's really little info about this game in the internet. I pictured the fight you mentioned, that guy with the white beard and the arrows is in the PGM KoV game. He is not the last boss, there's more stuff after him. However when I fought the last boss I thought he was supposed to be the 7th star, not sure though.
 
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Greywolf said:
According to this thread on Shoryuken.com there must be at least one copy of this game floating around in the Western Hemisphere:

http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63711&highlight=force

Was it some kind of loke test? Maybe one of our members in London can tell us more?

probably a loke test

wouldn't be that suprising. not only is there a high competitive level of gaming in the realm of fighters (atleast there was 5 years ago), but if memory serves they used to do loke tests near to thast place mentioned in that thread. I used to always go there, by goodge street station I think. they always had great fighters there.

even better though was the old Namco place that wasin central London and had all the fighters there. it was a great place to go for the competition (especially since I had a couple of friends who where monsters playing the Alpha/KOF games).

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found this flyer (?) online
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don't know what it sais. could the game have had a very limited release? doubtful I know, but there are a number of games that have seldom been mentioned with regards to AW, namely the soccer game and Sushi Bar.
 
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anyone know where to look for a kit such as sushi bar? is contacting Sammy viable?
 

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DevilRedeemed said:
anyone know where to look for a kit such as sushi bar? is contacting Sammy viable?
If it's not @ coinop and you have looked everywhere else I would say contact Sammy.
 

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Sushi Bar is almost impossible to find anywhere :mad:

I can imagine how much a new kit from sammy costs :eek:
 
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