GREEN ENVY Consolized 2-Slot MVS w/Component Video (NeoBitz)

Blue Steel · Oct 31, 2004

I want to have sex with it.

Kpj · Oct 31, 2004

D-Lite said:
Whatcha think?

Constructive criticism:

• The red select button up front kills the sleekness of the unit's front edge; lose it.
• Soldering wires to the actual JAMMA pins is a no-no; may affect the unit's ability to be hooked up in a cabinet for dual functionality, not to mention looks a little messy. (already mentioned)
• The wire running along the backside of the shell (on the inside of the rear cartridge slot) again, takes the "polish" off of the machine.

Otherwise, nice work D.

Dean · Nov 1, 2004

Kenny Boy said:
Constructive criticism:

• The red select button up front kills the sleekness of the unit's front edge; lose it.

I know what you mean, but I wanted it where it made sense, on the front

Kenny Boy said:
• Soldering wires to the actual JAMMA pins is a no-no; may affect the unit's ability to be hooked up in a cabinet for dual functionality, not to mention looks a little messy. (already mentioned)

Well, they're soldered to the back end so it still works with a JAMMA harness, but yeah, next one will be soldered back to other components like Scott said.
But who in their right mind buys a consolized unit and then puts it in a cab :spock:

?

Kenny Boy said:
• The wire running along the backside of the shell (on the inside of the rear cartridge slot) again, takes the "polish" off of the machine.

Can't be seen by most angles, but yeah, it's not the best location. Guess I can't charge $700 for it then

Kenny Boy said:
Otherwise, nice work D.

Thanks man.

The Chief · Nov 1, 2004

Very nice work Dean, I like it a lot.

JHendrix · Nov 1, 2004

I too would like to know how much one of these things would sell for, since I'm building one now.

I have no idea though. Like it was said we don't have a lot of "open" prices on what these things sell for. I figured I'd just put mine on eBay and see what it fetches.

I also don't know if it's worth it to put the component out stuff on there. It's expensive and time consuming. And like D-Lite said, if one of these things can sell for $700 w/o component on there, selling one with it would put the price out there. It is not a cheap addition. Jeff's board isn't that cheap (it's a very fair price, do NOT get the wrong impression), and if you were to do it yourself the time it'd take to make the board would be so great that you'd have to charge up for it anyway (hence why Jeff's price is very competitive).

Kpj · Nov 1, 2004

D-Lite said:
Who in their right mind buys a consolized unit and then puts it in a cab ?

Many people want the ability to do so. Do not assume this scenario that consolized MVS units will never be inside a cabinent.

D-Lite said:
Can't be seen by most angles, but yeah, it's not the best location. Guess I can't charge $700 for it then

My "crazy" pricing is a total misconception. The one that sold ebay on ebay for $699 included 2 games, a joystick and the upgraded Uni-Bios. You people seem to forget that I bundle extra stuff with my units at times.

Your welcome

Chicago Cheeseburgler Crew · Nov 1, 2004

Good job on the paint . Most of these painted consolized look like my ass since the paint always looks wavy like it was painted with Ace hardware brand spray paint. Did you wet sand it? Looks nice. As for the soldering it looks like my ass but thats been stated more than once (I like to state the obvious).

Dean · Nov 1, 2004

Kenny Boy said:
D-Lite said:

Who in their right mind buys a consolized unit and then puts it in a cab ?

Click to expand...

Many people want the ability to do so. Do not assume this scenario that consolized MVS units will never be inside a cabinent.

*Many* people? And I do keep that functionality intact here.

Kenny Boy said:
D-Lite said:

Can't be seen by most angles, but yeah, it's not the best location. Guess I can't charge $700 for it then

Click to expand...

My "crazy" pricing is a total misconception. The one that sold ebay on ebay for $699 included 2 games, a joystick and the upgraded Uni-Bios. You people seem to forget that I bundle extra stuff with my units at times.

I wasn't saying your reserve was $699 on that. But I'm really curious how much people are charging as I asked way up there in the posts. I charge $400 shipped for a consolized 1FZ with Unibios 2.0 and joystick and the JROK. I'm thinking that $500 is a good price on the 2-slot even with component video on board. I know they used to sell around $500 with a JROK and the regular bios back in the day, so maybe a bit more on this. How about sharing your pricing at least?

Kenny Boy said:
Your welcome

Huh?
Kenny, one thing I'd like to say here, is that despite your claims to be willing to share info you've gotten less and less willing. You used to be willing like a year ago when I asked for simple part numbers, but the last couple times I asked (before I made even one unit), you gave me the "well, you can get it from Mouser, but I can't remember the part number". That's like trying to find a needle in the haystack. And now you won't even show a pic of the component mod you do. A picture for christ's sake. The business end has gotten to you. This is a community.

Folks, here's a price breakdown on what goes into a 2-slot:
$175 2-slot (at a high price)
$30 Jameco PSU and cable
$115 NeoBitz board
$5 3 hex RCA mounts
$5 Component mounts
$4 S-Video mount
$25 Unibios 2.0
$4 DPDT power switch
$3 5-pin DIN for power
$1 momentary push button for game switch
$5 good paint

$362 total
$20 shipping

$392 total
Labor is about 4-5 hours depending on ..... lots

I'd say that $550 shipped for a fully modded 2-slot is well worth it for the modder and considering the time, equipment, and risk, also well-worth it for the buyer.

Dean · Nov 1, 2004

FatGuy said:
Good job on the paint . Most of these painted consolized look like my ass since the paint always looks wavy like it was painted with Ace hardware brand spray paint. Did you wet sand it? Looks nice. As for the soldering it looks like my ass but thats been stated more than once (I like to state the obvious).

I sanded the unit and then primed it. Used a Krylon Satin Hunter Green paint. The difference is I did about 10 coats on the cover so it would be uniform. I'm looking into getting a body shop to do the painting in the future, but whatever.

I'm most happy with the sexy baseplate

Chicago Cheeseburgler Crew · Nov 1, 2004

D-Lite said:
Folks, here's a price breakdown on what goes into a 2-slot:
$175 2-slot (at a high price)
$30 Jameco PSU and cable
$115 NeoBitz board
$5 3 hex RCA mounts
$5 Component mounts
$4 S-Video mount
$25 Unibios 2.0
$4 DPDT power switch
$3 5-pin DIN for power
$1 momentary push button for game switch
$5 good paint

$362 total
$20 shipping

$392 total
Labor is about 4-5 hours depending on ..... lots

I'd say that $550 shipped for a fully modded 2-slot is well worth it for the modder and considering the time, equipment, and risk, also well-worth it for the buyer.

you forgot LEDs = 149.99 for an ebay price of 699.99
don't short change yourself D

Kpj · Nov 1, 2004

D-Lite said:
Kenny, one thing I'd like to say here, is that despite your claims to be willing to share info you've gotten less and less willing. You used to be willing like a year ago when I asked for simple part numbers, but the last couple times I asked (before I made even one unit), you gave me the "well, you can get it from Mouser, but I can't remember the part number". That's like trying to find a needle in the haystack. And now you won't even show a pic of the component mod you do. A picture for christ's sake. The business end has gotten to you. This is a community.

I've always been, & continue to be, open with sharing info. I help out as much as I can. Concerning Mouser, I was serious. That website (along with digikey) is a mess. I had to call them on the phone in order to locate the correct parts. Since they were ordered offline, I did not get a receipt in my email box, which renders me helpless. If I remember correctly, I sent you part #s for Parts Express, since I was able to locate them online.

The business end has gotten to me? I don't think so. I've been selling converted AES systems for over 3 years now & other video game paraphenilia for over ten. My practices haven't changed.

I have not shown a picture, you are correct. I will do so once the board is in it's final stage (production).

Kpj

Dean · Nov 1, 2004

Kenny Boy said:
I've always been, & continue to be, open with sharing info. I help out as much as I can. Concerning Mouser, I was serious. That website (along with digikey) is a mess. I had to call them on the phone in order to locate the correct parts. Since they were ordered offline, I did not get a receipt in my email box, which renders me helpless. If I remember correctly, I sent you part #s for Parts Express, since I was able to locate them online.

Come on, you mean you ordered it once and don't plan to make it easier next time by writing down the number?

And I believe I did say you used to share info which was like a year ago when I asked for the first Parts Express numbers. But since then I asked what the number on the red/white hex pair was and you didn't respond to that.

Now that being said, I can understand the reluctance to share info on hard to track down parts. But as omnedon can tell you, I do still share what I have in general.

JHendrix · Nov 1, 2004

D-Lite said:
*Many* people? And I do keep that functionality intact here.

I wasn't saying your reserve was $699 on that. But I'm really curious how much people are charging as I asked way up there in the posts. I charge $400 shipped for a consolized 1FZ with Unibios 2.0 and joystick and the JROK. I'm thinking that $500 is a good price on the 2-slot even with component video on board. I know they used to sell around $500 with a JROK and the regular bios back in the day, so maybe a bit more on this. How about sharing your pricing at least?

Huh?
Kenny, one thing I'd like to say here, is that despite your claims to be willing to share info you've gotten less and less willing. You used to be willing like a year ago when I asked for simple part numbers, but the last couple times I asked (before I made even one unit), you gave me the "well, you can get it from Mouser, but I can't remember the part number". That's like trying to find a needle in the haystack. And now you won't even show a pic of the component mod you do. A picture for christ's sake. The business end has gotten to you. This is a community.

Folks, here's a price breakdown on what goes into a 2-slot:
$175 2-slot (at a high price)
$30 Jameco PSU and cable
$115 NeoBitz board
$5 3 hex RCA mounts
$5 Component mounts
$4 S-Video mount
$25 Unibios 2.0
$4 DPDT power switch
$3 5-pin DIN for power
$1 momentary push button for game switch
$5 good paint

$362 total
$20 shipping

$392 total
Labor is about 4-5 hours depending on ..... lots

I'd say that $550 shipped for a fully modded 2-slot is well worth it for the modder and considering the time, equipment, and risk, also well-worth it for the buyer.

Not a bad breakdown, mine is similar.

Question, where did you order the composite/stereo hex mounts from? I haven't found a real nice place that offers connectors that have nice easy mounts on em.

Also who are you ordering your UniBios from? Raz or do you know someone reputable in the states who can burn the EEPROM and ship it cheaper?

And is Jeff's board for public sale yet? I went to Neobitz.com and it looks like it's still pre-order only.

Oh yeah, do you guys normally throw a controller and/or memory card in with it too? Doesn't look like that factored into your price breakdown. Figure a decent old style stick can go for like $50 and a memory card for $30 and the final price is up in the $600+ range and probably higher for a component board.

Sorry for asking so many questions, but I'm really trying to get things planned down price wise before I order all my parts. I want to make sure that I don't over or under charge.

Kpj · Nov 1, 2004

D-Lite said:
Come on, you mean you ordered it once and don't plan to make it easier next time by writing down the number?

Yes. I get stuff on a daily basis & sometimes I do misplace receipts, boxes, etc... This is probabale.

D-Lite said:
And I believe I did say you used to share info which was like a year ago when I asked for the first Parts Express numbers. But since then I asked what the number on the red/white hex pair was and you didn't respond to that.

I am sorry I didn't give you the #s. I thought I had. My bad.....

D-Lite said:
Now that being said, I can understand the reluctance to share info on hard to track down parts. But as omnedon can tell you, I do still share what I have in general.

I am not reluctant on sharing my info. Most of it is already well-known.

kernow · Nov 1, 2004

nice acrylic floor O_O

Dean · Nov 1, 2004

JHendrix said:
Not a bad breakdown, mine is similar.

Question, where did you order the composite/stereo hex mounts from? I haven't found a real nice place that offers connectors that have nice easy mounts on em.

Parts Express # 091-1204 $2.95 for pair
Parts Express # 091-1203 $1.49 for yellow

JHendrix said:
Also who are you ordering your UniBios from? Raz or do you know someone reputable in the states who can burn the EEPROM and ship it cheaper?

From Raz. Unless you can burn your own, Raz frowns on buying from someone else.

JHendrix said:
And is Jeff's board for public sale yet? I went to Neobitz.com and it looks like it's still pre-order only.

Yes. e-mail him (better than PM)

JHendrix said:
Oh yeah, do you guys normally throw a controller and/or memory card in with it too? Doesn't look like that factored into your price breakdown. Figure a decent old style stick can go for like $50 and a memory card for $30 and the final price is up in the $600+ range and probably higher for a component board.

Add like $40 for a controller. So about $590 shipped for the component 2-slot set-up. (the $550 was for the component version)

JHendrix said:
Sorry for asking so many questions, but I'm really trying to get things planned down price wise before I order all my parts. I want to make sure that I don't over or under charge.

That takes some effort to get a good price down.

Dean · Nov 1, 2004

kernow said:
nice acrylic floor O_O

Thanks man. I thought that would be a nice touch.
Ray Young at !Arcade! installed those on the Shadow4 system, but they were only 1/8" and the corners and edges were sharp. This is 1/4" acrylic.

JHendrix · Nov 1, 2004

D-Lite said:
Add like $40 for a controller. So about $590 shipped for the component 2-slot set-up. (the $550 was for the component version)

I would love to know how you got your hands on a controller for that much. The ones in Japan can be had for lower prices but you still have to cover shipping costs, which normally bring it to at least $50. Not questioning your price of $40, but I've had trouble finding one for that amount.

Oh yeah do you include cables too or do you leave that up to the buyer?

That takes some effort to get a good price down.

Yar it does. I'd like to say thanks for all the help, it really is much appreciated. It's funny I'm asking all these questions on modded boards and yet none of them are technical. Almost sad actually. Again, thanks for all the help.

Robert Wallace · Nov 1, 2004

GREEN ENvY!

D- clean out your PM box! :envy:

Shawn Carr2o · Nov 1, 2004

I have a metalic Purple Consolized 2-Slot MVS unit
that i traded Kennyboy for. He had to sell some of
the stuff i traded him to pay for the 2-Slot MVS unit. :cool:

Plus he painted it too. :cool:

I have to get the uni-bios 2.0 soon.

Aes Games

King of Fighters 2001
Metal Slug 3
Metal Slug 4 ( Japanese version )
Sengoku 3

All in 'mint perfect condition' :cool:

Nice! job on your units. :cool:

Dean · Nov 1, 2004

JHendrix said:
I would love to know how you got your hands on a controller for that much. The ones in Japan can be had for lower prices but you still have to cover shipping costs, which normally bring it to at least $50. Not questioning your price of $40, but I've had trouble finding one for that amount.

You keep your eyes open and you can find them :eye:

Not frequently, but you can. Usually I leave the controllers out unless it's a new user since controllers are a personal thing as far as style.

JHendrix said:
Oh yeah do you include cables too or do you leave that up to the buyer?

I can include cables, but that too is best left up to the buyer. You can spend $10 for crappy cables or easily $80 for a nice set of Monster cables or better.

JHendrix said:
Yar it does. I'd like to say thanks for all the help, it really is much appreciated. It's funny I'm asking all these questions on modded boards and yet none of them are technical. Almost sad actually. Again, thanks for all the help.

Funny thing is it's usually not the technical stuff that people can't figure out. It's the putting together type questions. Still the number one question is how do you make nice DB-15 ports?

Dean · Nov 1, 2004

Shawn Carr2o said:
I have a metalic Purple Consolized 2-Slot MVS unit
that i traded Kennyboy for. He had to sell some of
the stuff i traded him to pay for the 2-Slot MVS unit.
Plus he painted it too. I have to get the uni-bios 2.0 soon.

Aes Games

King of Fighters 2001
Metal Slug 3
Metal Slug 4 ( Japanese version )
Sengoku 3

All in 'mint perfect condition'

Nice! job on your units.

You traded those 4 games for the consolized board????? Holy crap. I woulda thrown in the Unibios at that point! Is that the trade you're talking about?

Shawn Carr2o · Nov 1, 2004

Yup!

I only have a unibios 1.1 version though. :cool:

Well the system has bubble wrap marks
on the top, But it is no big deal to me as long as it works
which is does really good with no problems at all.
:cool:

Freeplay is cool. :cool:

Dean · Nov 1, 2004

Shawn Carr2o said:
Yup! I only have a unibios 1.1 version though.
Well the system has bubble wrap marks
on the top, But it is no big deal to me as long as it works
which is does really good with no problems at all.
Freeplay is cool.

Well, as long as you enjoy it! Metallic purple? Sounds pretty slick. Was this with component video too?

Shawn Carr2o · Nov 1, 2004

I think i do. :confused:

I'll find out though.

The reason why i got it painted metalic purple is
to match my power wheelchair. hehe :eek_2:

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