Just thought I'd let leepantalone know this, so he can stop
making shitty threads about a cat, and start making threads
about Prision Sex and Swamps.
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shir0
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Just thought I'd let leepantalone know this, so he can stop
making shitty threads about a cat, and start making threads
about Prision Sex and Swamps.
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shir0
Okay, way to compare two insanely different bands. Tool is great, but your point is nil. Primus is thrash-funk. Tool is psychedelic metal/who knows what the fuck they are classified as.
You are an asshole and Tool is still better than Primus.
Good, glad we cleared that up.
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No.
I win.
The answer is they're both freakin' awesome.
Also, Perfect Circle>>Tool
Shit. in. a. can.Quote:
SkullcrushX(shirt0inacan): there is now officially nothing more you can say---accept defeat
You still lose.
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They will be next week's "greatest band ever."Quote:
Originally Posted by D-Lite
I still like Undertow a little better than Mer De Noms.
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Rocket from the Crypt > Beethoven
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Boy that DID feel good, and here this whole time I avoided jumping on the bandwagon
Haha, it'll catch on soon :P
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P.S Tool > Rocket from the Crypt > Beethoven - You still lose shirt0.
Hey man, ever heard of Kyuss? In my opinion they have the greatest album of all time in "Welcome to Sky Valley." Tool is never reluctant to point out the fact that Kyuss is one of, if no THE, biggest inspiration they draw from. Not only that, Tool routinely covers Kyuss songs on tour as a means of tribute. Kyuss sounds drasctically different (more on the stoner-rock side [in fact, they invented the genre]) but one can definitely hear how Tool has borrowed some of their sound. I recommend that you sit down with Sky Valley or Blues for the Red Sun and really let it sink in. Don't expect it to sound like a Tool clone, and it may take a few listens before their genious sinks in, but it's their man. Just keep an open mind and listen.Quote:
Originally Posted by shir0
Primus kicks ass. Tool kicks ass. Maynard's the man. Claypool's the man.
Listen to Kyuss.
Hmm, will give it a listen - underground cd or mainstream?
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Tool??
They must be great as it seem no one bothered to launch them in the UK.
Probably too dumbed down for our expansive minds to deal with.
Kyuss seems to have a much larger following today than they did when they were still together given that they are "the fathers of stoner rock" and some stoner rock has seeped into the mainstream - greatly watering down the genre and making much of it unlistenable. Back in the day when they were touring no one knew about them, but today bands like Tool seem to be paying their tributes. Kyuss never got any radio play and they never will. They didn't believe in songs made exclusively for the radio, they believed an album should flow from start to finish. For example, Sky Valley is broken up into "three chapters," each chapter contains three songs. Skipping a song on your cd player will jump to the next chapter, so it kind of forces you to listen to the album as a whole, or at least in very large pieces. It is hard to fathom, but if you're a fan of any sort of stoner rock I definitely recommend picking up "Welcome to Sky Valley." While I don't really consider Tool stoner rock almost all hardcore Tool fans appreciate and respect, if not love, Kyuss. I suggest you go pick up Welcome to Sky Valley. Before you put it in do not expect anything, just chill and listen to it from start to finish, and repeat if need be.Quote:
Originally Posted by shir0
It is a fucking masterpiece.
I'm going to have to check out Kyuss now after listening to samples. I'm always looking for new bands to swoon over. And that means I'm going to have to buy the album. Asshole, making me spend money.
By the way, anybody listen to
http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov...538817r541.jpg
edit: I KNOW nobody's heard of these guys, but I have to plug them
http://host55.ipowerweb.com/~ph8net/images/cdcover2.jpg
www.ph8.net
You love them
Edit: I seem to have found one of their cds.
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I agree that Tool>Primus.
Although thats not to say Primus doesn't kick ass, i saw them in concert awhile back and they rocked. I've yet to see tool in concert though.
It's fucking amazing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lagduf
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Heard of them? Most definitely. I was shocked and devastated when Lynn Strait died. I miss Dobbs too...Quote:
Originally Posted by Shirt in a Can
Dumbest thing I've ever read.Quote:
Originally Posted by D-Lite
Ever.
Very nice. My recommendation is to go with "Welcome to Sky Valley." I would suggest "Blues for the Red Sun" as a second option. "And the Circus Leaves Town" is a good album, but it's not up to par with the other two (although some seem to love it.) "Wretch," their first album, is a decent effort but far below the other three as they hadn't yet found their sound/style.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shirt in a Can
Enjoy.
I have heard of Snot, but only because half the band was in Amen... that and the Straight Up... a tribute to Snot album that came out a few years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shirt in a Can
Question...
Isn't there some kind of connection between Kyuss and Queens of the Stone Age, something like half of Kyuss went on to form QOTSA?
Oh yeah and even though TOOL and Primus are completely different styles of music Tool > Primus any day of the week. Don't get me wrong Primus is fucking awesome... I would just rather listen to TOOL. As a matter of fact, I'm going to see Primus next Tuesday when they come to town. Primus puts on an excelent live set... I can't wait. :D
Criterionradiohead ;)
You're serious?Quote:
Originally Posted by Buro Destruct
You been here long?
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Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins
Yeah, same here man. Actually I was plugging the band I had posted below, ph8. They're extremely good, you should check them out. I will check out Welcome to Sky Valley myself.
Hell yeah, when i saw Primus they played Sailing the Seas of Cheese in its entirety. Needless to say it was quite badass.
Ok i'm gonna give this TOOL band an honest chance, what do i REALLY want to look out for.
I just started giving a live album of theirs a listen (Salival??) which started with a 15 minute song called the third eye or something which was completely aimless. The 2nd track was better, but the third brought ulmtimate mundanity back . Do they completely revel in slow tempo bore rock, or is there an element of enjoyment to be had here??
Both are amazing bands. You can't really compare, seeing as how they're both of different genres, but whatever. I own everything Tool, but only own Primus' Brown Album. What would be a good second album to purchase?
Yes, a big connection (I may spell some names wrong in the sentences to follow, I'm no good with names).Quote:
Originally Posted by Criterionradiohead
Josh Homme was the guitarist of Kyuss as well as one of the founding members. He was as much responsible for Kyuss' sound as Kyuss singer John Garcia. Nick Oliveri and Alfredo Hernāndez played the bass and drums (respectively) at one point or another during Kyuss' short lifespan.
Josh Homme went on to form Queens of the Stone Age as their lead guitarist and frontman/lead vocalist, taking stoner rock mainstream (be it good or bad). Nick Oliveri and Alfredo Hernandez also joined forces with Josh Homme on Queens' self-titled first album, although they (Oliveri and Hernandez) are no longer in the band.
Personally, I am a big Queens of the Stone Age fan and have seen them in concert. I know many Kyuss fanatics who dislike Queens of the Stone Age. Liking Kyuss is by no means a guarantee that one will like Queens, and vice versa. I think their sounds, while sharing similarites, are very much different. I do indeed love them both though, Homme is simply the man.
I'm pretty sure that's how it happened but this is all from the top of my head so it wouldn't surprise me if I got some shit wrong...
You must own "Suck on This," Frizzle Fry," and "Sailing the Seas of Cheese." "Pork Soda" and "Tales from the Punchbowl" are very good albums. I didn't particularly care for "The Brown Album," "Rhinolplasty," or "Antipop."Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Wopat
Fuck that, they're ALL good. I reccomend Suck on this or Pork Soda as your next one though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins
You must own "Aenima" and "Stinkfist." "Opiate," their first album, while not as good as the two that proceed it, is definitely worthwhile. "Lateralus," their latest album has a completely different sound. Some hate it, some love it. I fall into the latter category. I enjoy it and find it very listenable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baseley09
I wouldn't start with the live stuff. Listen to AENIMA or Undertow first. Lots of great tracks on those. Lateralus is good, but methinks ranks 3rd, maybe even 4th behind their EP Opiate.
YOU LEFT OUT "Undertow" - jesus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins
Yeah, you need to listen to either Aenima, Undertow or Lateralus.
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Definitely get Suck on This, then Sailing the Seas of Cheese. Pork Soda then Frizzle Fry. All good stuff and all much better than the Brown Album.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Wopat
Very cool man. I had seen them a few times before (like at ozzfest and shit) but they had never done anything like this. We must be talking about the same tour I bet. I saw them this year, and that's when they performed Seas of Cheese in its entirety. Now that I think about it, it could have been November of '03... alas... the memory has gone up in smoke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lagduf
Also, the title of Kyuss' last release was Queens of the Stone Age... But that doesn't really matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins
I just found out... Primus is coming back and they're doing an encore set of Frizzle Fry to completion! MY FUCKIN' PRAYERS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED. Many a mushroom will be eaten, and many a joint smoked. This is going to be fucking awesome.
No man, that's not true. You're thinking of the album that has a blue cover and says Kyuss and Queens of the Stone Age on it - it's a split. At that point they were two separate bands. Very cool album though, you should pick it up. The only album I didn't mention is the unofficial album "Sons of Kyuss." It reminds me alot of Wretch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Wopat
I...missed...Primus...live? I can't believe this. I am going to fucking kill myself. Bye.
Why the hell do so many of you like Tool?! They are extremely overrated. I picked up AENIMA a few years ago and thought WTF is this shit. Half the CD is waste/noise. And the tracks that are actually songs drone on in excess of seven minutes. As far as lyrics... I've seen better. You wankers should go buy some Meshuggah CDs and try to decipher their songs. Such an insult that a band with as much talent as Meshuggah opened up for Tool on tour.
Seems everyone listens to Tool now like it's some underground shit. THERE IS MUCH BETTER METAL to listen to.
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Originally Posted by shir0
Hahaha, looks like I was thinking too much about Aenima. When I said Stinkfist I meant Undertow. Undertow is my favorite Tool album. Stinkfist is a single off of Aenima, the song that everyone seems to know. Good catch man.
To each his own I suppose.Quote:
Originally Posted by SamuraiShodownSensei
By the way: Meshuggah = A+ in my book. I found them pretty good.
Yes, Meshuggah is much better than Tool also.Quote:
Originally Posted by SamuraiShodownSensei
Look, it's a talking vagina.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shirt in a Can
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GWAN NOW, GIT!Quote:
Originally Posted by shir0
While I agree that Meshuggah is great, I also agree that you're a dick and youQuote:
Originally Posted by SamuraiShodownSensei
should try listening to Tool again.
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:crying:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shirt in a Can
Remember how I clicked that X when you tried to send me a song?
Yeah, I'm going to do that again.
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Must you belittle me in front of the children?Quote:
Originally Posted by shir0
I've been listening to that cd waaaaaay too much recently, especially Flood.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins
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I do think Tool is overrated, but their material is still good enought to go out and buy it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SamuraiShodownSensei
STOP. TALKING.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shirt in a Can
Jesus, This is exactly why we got divorced.
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