Frustrated with the XBOX...

Jeez, I must have the worst fucking luck or something.

I just bought RalliSport Challenge 2 today and been playing it for a while. I got somewhat far and I got a disc reading error once or twice. Now I'm trying to play the game again and it just keeps fucking up over and over again. It fucked up so many times when I was playing career mode that it fucked up my profile and now I can't even access that. I tried cleaning the disc and that didn't work either, in fact it seemed to make it worse and now I can't even enter races now. ALL I ASK FOR IS TO PLAY THROUGH ONE FUCKING RACE AND SAVE THE MOTHER FUCKING GAME. JESUS, I SWEAR TO GOD IF IT DOES THIS SHIT ANYMORE I'M GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE A MOTHER FUCKING AXE TO MY XBOX.

Yes, I do need to relieve my anger somehow.

how old is your xbox? it's common knowledge some of the early ones from 2001/2002 get fucked over time with DDREs, just get a new one, it's only 129.

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Originally Posted by DashK

how old is your xbox? it's common knowledge some of the early ones from 2001/2002 get fucked over time with DDREs, just get a new one, it's only 129.

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I'm letting it cool off right now, but I just got RalliSport Challenge 2 today and I've been having fun playing it online. I'm going to try it again in a second.

I finished one race and it fucked up again. Man, I wish there was some remedy for it right now like the PS2s had when it got fucked up.

Yeah I got 1 twice

once in Kakuto Chojin (as a BSOD)

and again when I first popped in Ninja Gaiden

But they have not repeated

Microsoft can fix it for you if it's a bum drive and you are still under warrantee

I had this problem with the Xbox I manly use..... with certain games.
I can put that same game in the other Xbox (not used as much) and It'll work fine.

I figure the mainly used Xbox is overheating so I put a small fan on one side of it blowing into it to cool it off.

I use one of those small power supply type fans hooked up to a 10V power supply.(Radio Shack)

It does the job..Ever since I did that the Xbox doesn't freeze up anymore etc..

Yikes, sounds like a PS2 horror story. I got one of the later model boxes (with JSRF/Sega GT pack-in), and I haven't had any probs.

Where are the recent XBOX manufactured (should tell you on the bottom)

I have an early first run XBOX made in of all places Hungry works just fine.

Where your XBOX was made actually does make a difference

XBOX is about as stable as Windows.

my xbox is from april 2002, never had one DDRE with the exception of a couple Halo systemlink games starting (a couple out of hundreds), and EVERYONE has had that prob with Halo at least once.

the problem is with these faulty drives lasers, it has nothing to do with the disc being dirty or anything, you just need a new system.

it all has to do with if you're unlucky getting lemons, my launch PSX from 1995 still doesn't skip a beat, and that system had a horrible reputation.

you can try calling MSFT and bullshitting your way to getting a replacement for free + shipping if you complain you bought it recently and it's an old defective unit, i know a couple people who did that.

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Originally Posted by Thereverend

I have an early first run XBOX made in of all places Hungry works just fine.

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so, you get it in a happy meal or something?

You can always try fixing it yourself if it's a drive/laser problem (not an over heat, though Chris1 has given a workaround for that above as well).

It seems to be a problem if you have the Thompson Drive.... I know my xbox has the T drive, so I don't know what to do if/when it dies.

try erasing your ralisport data then starting a new one.

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Originally Posted by 5thlion5thlion

try erasing your ralisport data then starting a new one.

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Thanks, I'll try that and update a little later to see what happens.

If there's one lesson I've learned out of buying consoles recently is that I should wait until like 2-3 years later when they are cheaper and not going to break down on me. My PS2 from 2003 is an excellent system and has not had a single DRE.

My first xbox is the Sega GT/JSRF one, and it totally refuses to read CvS2, and has trouble with other games. Since that one is modded, I got a Halo xbox to use with live, so far so good, I hope it doesn't start doing the same crap.

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Originally Posted by SamuraiShodownSensei

XBOX is about as stable as Windows.

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Is that supposed to be funny?

If these were still the Windows 98 days, then saying something has windows stability would be a rather nasty insult. However, xp stability is really pretty decent, so SSS's comment really doesn't mean all that much.

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Originally Posted by DashK

it all has to do with if you're unlucky getting lemons, my launch PSX from 1995 still doesn't skip a beat, and that system had a horrible reputation.

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Meanwhile my old PSX just crapped out on me...Yesterday!! :mad:

Just by posting in this thread our X-Box's have been cursed.

Luckily the only problems I've had were solved by cleaning the crap off of some rental games.

From all Xboxs I sold at my store, I only had one that returned with problems.

It just couldn't read ANY disc. everything was ok except for the drive.

I got a message like that : "Please Insert a Xbox DVD media disc, the drive is either empty or the disc needs to be cleaned" <-something like that.

It was a 2002 model.

Sounds like you got a Thomson. My friend just last week bought 3 different XBoxes, first the dreaded Thompson, which doesn't work 98% of the time with any game manufactured after Simpsons Road Rage
Thomson

Then a Samsung, which supposedly works fine, but my friend just got a bunk used one I guess Samsung

And finally the Philips, hasn't fucked up once yet
Philips


Good luck with your problems, hope you your Box is still under warranty ;)

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Originally Posted by Shirt in a Can

Sounds like you got a Thomson. My friend just last week bought 3 different XBoxes, first the dreaded Thompson, which doesn't work 98% of the time with any game manufactured after Simpsons Road Rage
Thomson

Then a Samsung, which supposedly works fine, but my friend just got a bunk used one I guess Samsung

And finally the Philips, hasn't fucked up once yet
Philips


Good luck with your problems, hope you your Box is still under warranty ;)

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that's bullshit, the drive model has nothing to do with it, it was the laser itself, which is the same on all those drives, they only have different bios (some read DVD+Rs, some don't ect.) and door tray shapes. I have a launch tompson and never had a problem.

although i know someone with the samsung drive who had to buy a new one cause of DDREs. if you buy an xbox now you have NOTHING to worry about, unless it's new old stock from 2001-2002, those were the years they had probs with batches of systems. it's definetly not worse than the PS2 tho, that system still has lemons coming off the assembly line.

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Originally Posted by Shirt in a Can

Sounds like you got a Thomson. My friend just last week bought 3 different XBoxes, first the dreaded Thompson, which doesn't work 98% of the time with any game manufactured after Simpsons Road Rage
Thomson

Then a Samsung, which supposedly works fine, but my friend just got a bunk used one I guess Samsung

And finally the Philips, hasn't fucked up once yet
Philips


Good luck with your problems, hope you your Box is still under warranty ;)

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My fucked up xbox is a phillips. Actually so is the Halo one. So I'm hoping history doesn't repeat itself.

Solved the problem:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0...1.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Mine faced a couple of "Pls Insert Xbox Disc" shit over GTA 3 & Splinter Cell. But it was damn rare of it to happen.

But it messed up over SSX3.... can never get to play this damn game through in 1 seating... it either stop loading or simply hang before it loads..

But it aint software prob. it works well on others....

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Mine faced a couple of "Pls Insert Xbox Disc" shit over GTA 3 & Splinter Cell. But it was damn rare of it to happen.

But it messed up over SSX3.... can never get to play this damn game through in 1 seating... it either stop loading or simply hang before it loads..

But it aint software prob. it works well on others....

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When did you get your XBOX?

Year 2002 man. It was the second batch of imports into Singapore from the states then. Its made in Mexico.

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Originally Posted by TattooCow

Its made in Mexico.

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I didn't know they could juggle construction and making xboxes.

Damn multitaskers.

Later

shir0

God..... right glad I am that I didnt find any salsa and nachos in it eh!?

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Originally Posted by TattooCow

God..... right glad I am that I didnt find any salsa and nachos in it eh!?

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:spock: :emb:

sounds like a piece of shit manufactured brick of a console to me

how many gamecubes fuck up?

I'm just waiting for Verbatum to get in on this thread. That man is all about hating on the Xbox for disk read errors. He has some interesting theories as to why it happens so often too.


Criterionradiohead ;)

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Originally Posted by Criterionradiohead

I'm just waiting for Verbatum to get in on this thread. That man is all about hating on the Xbox for disk read errors. He has some interesting theories as to why it happens so often too.


Criterionradiohead ;)

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I'd like to hear some of these theories. Hurry up and post here Verbatum! :p

:spock: Hehehe, seriously, I know nuts about why the drive will breakdown and such. Would love some theories!!!

i just got a xbox today with morrowind , outlaw volleyball and tony hawks underground , tony hawk look awesome in 750p , the best thing ive seen in my life what other games are in high resolution ?

The XBOX has disk read errors due to the drives in the console. The first batch of drives were the Thompsons, these are the most notorious for fucking up on ANY new game. Second batch was Samsung, which has the fastest loading times but still has the errors often and the disc drive motor wears out so you will have to manually press on the drive to close it instead of simply pressing the button. The third and currect batch are Phillips, these are overall the most reliable but still have an error or two once every blue moon. Fuck Microsoft for selling faulty products.....then charging $100 to temporarily fix the problem....

In other words, unless you have a brand new phillips model, your Xbox can't play...umm....Xbox games.

http://members.aol.com/porygon000/thompson

http://members.aol.com/porygon000/samsung
^Samsung^

http://members.aol.com/porygon000/phillips

Just cross your fingers and pray that you own an Xbox instead of a Thompon!




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Thats so fucking lame, no wonder I boycotted shitty MS

I've bought my 'box about two years ago and so far I had zero read errors, resets or anything else. Don't know which drive version I have, tho.

Perhaps you ppl just don't know how to treat a piece of hardware?!

Or did your RoMzZ/boots kill yer 'bawks? Would be too funny, eh :tickled:

My original and the one that is modded is a Thompson and I have never had a problem with it . The second x box that I use for live is a phillips and so far so good. When a billy box acts up does the screen go blank or does it skip? Do they display an error message?

I had a jsrf/SEGAgt xbox, don't remember what model drive it had, but
I never had many dre on it. well, except for enclave, which I heard had
a lot of problems on other xboxes too, so I doubt that was neccessarily the
xboxes fault but more a bad run of enclaves.
amazing looking game though.

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My original and the one that is modded is a Thompson and I have never had a problem with it . The second x box that I use for live is a phillips and so far so good. When a billy box acts up does the screen go blank or does it skip? Do they display an error message?

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error message.

something along the lines of, this xbox disc is dirty or damaged. please remove the cd to continue.

*cough* Thompson *cough*

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Originally Posted by Takumaji

I've bought my 'box about two years ago and so far I had zero read errors, resets or anything else. Don't know which drive version I have, tho.

Perhaps you ppl just don't know how to treat a piece of hardware?!

Or did your RoMzZ/boots kill yer 'bawks? Would be too funny, eh :tickled:

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You're just one of the lucky few, I guess. But remember, I got mine in 2001. I've never modded it and treated it like gold. I mean I take extremely good care of all my consoles, this is the first gaming console to go out on me since the first Intellivision I got.

Mine is a Philips. 3rd Batch? But mine is 2yrs old man! 1st gen Mexican Xbox with 3rd gen philip's drive.... fucked up SSX3...

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Originally Posted by TattooCow

Mine is a Philips. 3rd Batch? But mine is 2yrs old man! 1st gen Mexican Xbox with 3rd gen philip's drive.... fucked up SSX3...

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You sure it's a Phillips and not a Thompson?? I mean, they do look a little similar. I could have sworn that Phillips drives only come in consoles that were made in China...

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Originally Posted by Lets Gekiga In

You're just one of the lucky few, I guess. But remember, I got mine in 2001. I've never modded it and treated it like gold. I mean I take extremely good care of all my consoles, this is the first gaming console to go out on me since the first Intellivision I got.

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Well, I don't exactly treat my box like gold, sometimes I don't play it for a week or two. I just avoid it to move CD/DVD-based consoles around too much, perhaps that's why mine still works because all ppl I know who reported problems with their boxes carried it to friends, etc.

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Originally Posted by Takumaji

Well, I don't exactly treat my box like gold, sometimes I don't play it for a week or two. I just avoid it to move CD/DVD-based consoles around too much, perhaps that's why mine still works because all ppl I know who reported problems with their boxes carried it to friends, etc.

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I didn't take my console to a single place other than where I lived. I think mine just ended up being a dud. :(

I had the same issue with RalliSport 2. I was about halfway through the game and I kept getting those errors. I put a new laser and if fixed everything. If you're comfortable doing that (and know how...), it will definitely fix the problem :)

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Originally Posted by doublef

I had the same issue with RalliSport 2. I was about halfway through the game and I kept getting those errors. I put a new laser and if fixed everything. If you're comfortable doing that (and know how...), it will definitely fix the problem :)

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I'm currently up and running again (see the previous page for my solution). Please join my RalliSport Challenge 2 league if at all possible.

GT: GaiDaigoji

Got a Samsung drive - never had any real probs.

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Originally Posted by Lets Gekiga In

Jeez, I must have the worst fucking luck or something.

I just bought RalliSport Challenge 2 today and been playing it for a while. I got somewhat far and I got a disc reading error once or twice. Now I'm trying to play the game again and it just keeps fucking up over and over again. It fucked up so many times when I was playing career mode that it fucked up my profile and now I can't even access that. I tried cleaning the disc and that didn't work either, in fact it seemed to make it worse and now I can't even enter races now. ALL I ASK FOR IS TO PLAY THROUGH ONE FUCKING RACE AND SAVE THE MOTHER FUCKING GAME. JESUS, I SWEAR TO GOD IF IT DOES THIS SHIT ANYMORE I'M GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE A MOTHER FUCKING AXE TO MY XBOX.

Yes, I do need to relieve my anger somehow.

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That happened to me in morrowind. In other games it would just hang. It was almost always because the box overheated. I would suggest turning your xbox off and making sure it gets some kind of cooling. I use a fan on mine, when playing morrowind.


*edit* I checked and I have a samsung drive. I bought this xbox in february 2004.