Do You Hate or Like Raving

I personally hate ravers. The music is stupid and if you ever went to a rave everyone is dancing like a fucking moron. I cant stand the fucking gay music, almost makes my ears bleed. Also the people there do some fucked up stuff like do drugs to fit in the crowd. Fuckin dumb faggots. People just break into pere pressure for no fucking good reason. Oh, and man dont get me started with the girls. Fuck I saw a girl at a rave who goes to my school and she tried to talk to me and she was dressed like a fucking hoe. She also reeked of alcohol and she was 15 years old. I told her to go fuck her dad and she started laughing like a lunatic and started giving me a slutty look. Fuck I swear to god, these fucking kids now a day's need a good fucking hit in the face or get a disease and fucking die. I hate raves and I hate all ravers. My friend died because some fucking bitch gave him a x pill and he died. He never did it before and just one pill, he died. If you do drugs because someone pushed it on you, your a fucking pussy. I never break in cause Im not a fucking coward. If someone says hey want to boge Ill just say "No thanks." thats it. Some people start sweating bullets and say "uh...uh...uh...sure?" Fucking good for nothing fuckers.

Ravers suck because no matter what kind of music is on and even if they have no glow sticks they will still dance that way. even in the streets far away from clubs they do it. at street fairs, in their cars, anywhere.

just make them stop forever and i will be happy.

I rave about neo geo games. I like doing it.

I hate people who rave about x-box, ps2, and nintendo games.

I have a general distaste for dance clubs.

I asked some of my friends if they would help me if I chose to go to another rave with bats and go in the center of the room and knock those motherfuckers out. One of my friends actually said "Yeah, if your up for it lets do it." I knew it was possible because my friend who is a DJ saw some guy flip because they didnt play his song so he picked up a chair and started beating the fuck out of those stupid ravers and know bouncers stopped him. Ever see that Mistubishi Eclipse commercial with that stupid girl in the car doing that wavy shit with her hands? Thats how motherfuckin ass hoe bitches dance. Dumbass motherfuckers need to die.

Glow sticks?? Man I am only 26 and I feel old already! My (our) generation has had some things that when looking back looked pretty silly but glow sticks? WTF is up with dancing around glowing looking like a complete DORK!!?

The reason you hate ravers seems to be pretty personal Assasin. You lost a friend and that is tragic. However, you can't stop them. They may be fags but they are on a drug that makes them mentaly invincable. They don't give a damn what people think, let alone if they die or not. E is one of the most potent and dangerous drugs out there so if you really HATE them then you'll make it your personal responsiblity to rid the world of illegal and legal drugs. Think you can do that? You can say what you like but keep in mind that people enjoy killing themselves using that stuff. Even the Neo Geo community enjoys sitting down for hours playing games instead of living real life. I don't think doing that is good for your health. Let people do what they want until they die. Just leave me out of it. And that's my two cents.

That raver girl in the Mitsubishi comercial is the most disgusting thing on TV these days.

Carlson

I have been involved in raiding a few rather large scale X labs,
But have never actually been to a rave.
I think the fad is starting to go away ?

Well heres how I feel....

I used to live in Europe back in the day. I was living there during the early 90's back when raves weren't super huge and they were like a secret underground thing in barns in the country and abandoned warehouses and it was more about the music and less about the drugs. I got hooked on artists like the Prodigy and Goldie and i really got hooked on Jungle/Drum&Bass music, and I loved the whole vibe and everything cuz it was so different from anything else.

In 1995 I moved back to America and about 2 years later Dance music came to America in a watered down mainstream form and with the new name of "Electronica" and man was I furious. All these ravers were weary these dumb ass necklaces and glowstick and shit started to bring my music down. It affected the scene, the sound and quality of the music and the artists. Plenty of no skilled artists started coming to the forefront making monotonous repetative records and other veteran artists started to put out lazy crap for a quick buck cuz they knew the new and old fans would buy it. Then the scene started to get full of drugs and really started going downhill.

Basically i blame ravers for taking away the once fun scene that was in the early and mid 90's away from me. It was fun and all about the music and the music was quality sounding and not some crap made in 5 minutes. Nowadays its more about the "good drugs" and majority of the time ravers are so high when you ask them who played the usual response is "dude i don't remember cuz i was so fucked up".

They've destroyed the once beautiful culture of Dance music(now called electronica in the west and what a shitty name that is). The Jungle/Drum&Bass music is about the only scene that still kept it real with the refusal of using drugs like Meth and X(but still smoke weed). Truthfully Jungle Fans take it a bit too far cuz we've(yeah i'm a junglist) been known to jump ravers and beat the shit out of them for fucking up the scene cuz the trance, techno and house music scene is fucked now and nothing can be done about it.

I hate ravers and will continue to hate those od'ing bastards who fucked up my once beautiful scene.

fuckers.


p.s. the scene back in the day was so cool and it was nothing like it is now with all the gay ass glow sticks and super huge pants and fucked up necklaces. Its all fucked up now. If you wanted to see how it was back in the old days then look at the Prodigy music video "No Good(Start the Dance)". Oldskool forever.

[ June 16, 2002: Message edited by: SPINMASTER X ]</p>

If you ever hear the responses from people who rave or/and do drugs, their answer is always:

"DUDE! Get a fucking grip and lighten up. Life's short, enjoy it. Do what's fun and raving and doing drugs is fun. So do it. Life's short you bitch. So don't ask."

Whatever. :rolleyes:

[quote] Originally posted by Steve:

"DUDE! Get a fucking grip and lighten up. Life's short, enjoy it. Do what's fun and raving and doing drugs is fun. So do it. Life's short you bitch. So don't ask."<hr></blockquote>

I just did it cause I felt like it.

Well, hold on a minute here. Ravers is a bullshit word same as "Techno". Those words are been used by ppl that do not know shit. 60 Second Assassin sry to hear about you'r friend but he did take the pill by his own will. That's how it usually goes. Drugs are everywhere nowdays. You can't even emagine how much drugs exict in Hip Hop clubs. And that Ravers are gay is propably the most retarded thing I have ever heard. What a bullshit. There are many stiles of technological music. I'm into tech/house and Detroit my self. And I agree, there are too many kids out there who just want to be something and start experimenting with drugs and dress weirdly. But it's theyr desision. Some of them really love the music and culture. For me the music IS the drug and I can tell you that I, my self do not take drugs at all. Alcohol only. I have tryd many kinds of drugs and I feel that they make me just stupid. I want to be on edge, stay sharp when hearing or playing music. Just cause you do not like technological music you can't start talking shit about us who do. I get offended. And to hear it from you 60 sec assa, you are a Japanise, makes me very supprised. You could formulate your words differently. Don't spam insults on a music culture...

/Robi Uppin

[quote]Originally posted by Nesagwa:
<strong>Ravers suck because no matter what kind of music is on and even if they have no glow sticks they will still dance that way. even in the streets far away from clubs they do it. at street fairs, in their cars, anywhere.

just make them stop forever and i will be happy.</strong><hr></blockquote>

your avatar and sig are both of a raver...

I hate Ravers big time the way they Dance, Dress,
the Music they play, etc , ect
But To be honest Back in 1995 I Dated a Raver Girl even though I hated Ravers.

I agree Robi15. Don't badmouth the music or culture, its just the kids who bring it down.

[quote]Originally posted by candycab:
<strong>I have been involved in raiding a few rather large scale X labs,
But have never actually been to a rave.
I think the fad is starting to go away ?</strong><hr></blockquote>

No far from it. Techno is what will replace rap on MTV which means it will have legions of mindless fans for its duration there.

Oh and its good to see SlipKunt getting back to his normal self. Heres to SlipKunt hater of all gays and ravers.
-joseph

[quote] Even the Neo Geo community enjoys sitting down for hours playing games instead of living real life. I don't think doing that is good for your health. <hr></blockquote>

You're right. Living real life isn't good for your health sometimes.

You have to deal with:

1.) Other people
2.) Other people's perspectives
3.) Money
4.) Jobs
5.) Republicians
6.) Yourself
7.) Your perspectives
<img src="graemlins/loco.gif" border="0" alt="[Loco]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" /> :D

[quote]If you do drugs because someone pushed it on you, your a fucking pussy.<hr></blockquote>

Wrong. If you do drugs, period, you're a "pussy."

In fact, if you do anything because some1 pushed it on you, you're a "pussy."

Duck King is not a raver! He's a phat ass breakdancer!

Bao is a raver....with his dayglo orange jumpsuit and all.
-joseph

[quote]Originally posted by Robi15:
<strong>Well, hold on a minute here. Ravers is a bullshit word same as "Techno". Those words are been used by ppl that do not know shit. 60 Second Assassin sry to hear about you'r friend but he did take the pill by his own will. That's how it usually goes. Drugs are everywhere nowdays. You can't even emagine how much drugs exict in Hip Hop clubs. And that Ravers are gay is propably the most retarded thing I have ever heard. What a bullshit. There are many stiles of technological music. I'm into tech/house and Detroit my self. And I agree, there are too many kids out there who just want to be something and start experimenting with drugs and dress weirdly. But it's theyr desision. Some of them really love the music and culture. For me the music IS the drug and I can tell you that I, my self do not take drugs at all. Alcohol only. I have tryd many kinds of drugs and I feel that they make me just stupid. I want to be on edge, stay sharp when hearing or playing music. Just cause you do not like technological music you can't start talking shit about us who do. I get offended. And to hear it from you 60 sec assa, you are a Japanise, makes me very supprised. You could formulate your words differently. Don't spam insults on a music culture...

/Robi Uppin</strong><hr></blockquote>

I'm with you man! Don't hate the music, hate the bastards who made it the way it is now. And hey don't you hate it when people call all the various Dance music "techno"? That just pisses me off!

p.s. I see you like Detroit Techno too. If it isn't a problem could you recommend me some detroit techno cuz i'm not very familiar with it aside from artsits like Juan Atkins and Derrick May. I'm a junglist thats why and mostly concentrate only on Jungle/Drum&Bass and about 2-3 years ago i started to get into detroit but never could find anybody to help me out. thanx.

I AM FROM DERTOIT

[quote]Originally posted by joseph:
<strong>Bao is a raver....with his dayglo orange jumpsuit and all.
-joseph</strong><hr></blockquote>

Bao must die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I AM FROM DERTOIT

electro- Direct Beat records
if you dont own records on this label you dont know SHIT about electro

techno- Richie Hawtin/Plastikman
ok no description needed

Metroplex records
good label isnt this Juan Atkin's label?
one phrase- "Time Space Transmat"
this record is more than classic

Kevin Saunderson has some good tracks/mixes out there

This compilation i got called "Detroit- Beyond the third wave" is really good
its got Ectomorph, K-Hand, Will Webb (db records) and more semi unknown detroit talent

Jeff Mills is the man!
The bells track is a classic on the Kat Moda EP
i think every techno dj spins this one

JUNGLISTS REPRASENT!!!
Badbwoy sound! Now for the rewind!!!
Nothing like a good Virus track or some Bad Co. to fuck up a sound system!

As far as ravers go, I'm okay with the clothes, and drum and bass is cool, but ravers themselves are almost always idiots.

Stupid shit indeed, music sucks too. :(

[quote]Originally posted by SPINMASTER X:
<strong>

I'm with you man! Don't hate the music, hate the bastards who made it the way it is now. And hey don't you hate it when people call all the various Dance music "techno"? That just pisses me off!

p.s. I see you like Detroit Techno too. If it isn't a problem could you recommend me some detroit techno cuz i'm not very familiar with it aside from artsits like Juan Atkins and Derrick May. I'm a junglist thats why and mostly concentrate only on Jungle/Drum&Bass and about 2-3 years ago i started to get into detroit but never could find anybody to help me out. thanx.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Also for sluttygirls


Ok, here is some some Detroit styled artists:
Aril Brikha
JB3 aka Joey Beltram
Cari Lekebusch
Terrence Dixon
Steve Stoll
Christian Smith & John Selway
Richi Hawtin aka Fuse aka From Within aka Plastikman is a legend. :)
Mario J

Ok these artists are all VERY good and theyr work would be my personal selection if I would select music while DJ'ing. Any questions about theyr best tracks or something else,PM me anytime! Music is art, Music is life.

I read most of the post and looks pretty balanced. Someone said I shouldnt blame the music, just blame those fuckers who brought drugs and fucked it up for everyone. I agree with that but shit, go to a rave and everyone is a fucking fruitcake. There either high and intoxicated. Another thing is there younger than the legal age. Those stupid punk bastards. Oh, and the person who said hes surprised Im japanese and hate raving, whats there to be surprised about. Yeah, theres a lot of Japs who rave but there fucking gay. You know in Japan at most of the raves the young girls get raped? Fucking dumb drugged up motherfuckers. Joseph if you still think that I hate homosexuals then ask Yukuridanshi. Were pretty good friends so I dont mind if he is gay or not, hes still a kool guy. I still have a grudge against flaming gays but I wont go out and find a gay person and say "Your a fag, I hate you." All of that is in the past. Funny you remind me of a girl, always holding grudges forever. Fuck ravers

[ June 16, 2002: Message edited by: 60 Second Assassin ]</p>

[quote]Originally posted by 60 Second Assassin:
<strong>I read most of the post and looks pretty balanced. Someone said I shouldnt blame the music, just blame those fuckers who brought drugs and fucked it up for everyone. I agree with that but shit, go to a rave and everyone is a fucking fruitcake. There either high and intoxicated. Another thing is there younger than the legal age. Those stupid punk bastards. Oh, and the person who said hes surprised Im japanese and hate raving, whats there to be surprised about. Yeah, theres a lot of Japs who rave but there fucking gay. You know in Japan at most of the raves the young girls get raped? Fucking dumb drugged up motherfuckers. Joseph if you still think that I hate homosexuals then ask Yukuridanshi. Were pretty good friends so I dont mind if he is gay or not, hes still a kool guy. I still have a grudge against flaming gays but I wont go out and find a gay person and say "Your a fag, I hate you." All of that is in the past. Funny you remind me of a girl, always holding grudges forever. Fuck ravers

[ June 16, 2002: Message edited by: 60 Second Assassin ]</strong><hr></blockquote>


What I was supprised about is that how you could jump in to a conclusion and say that EVERY one are stoned at raves. You are plain wrong dude. And to say that we all are motf'n gays and stoned is supprising to hear from a Japanese. I respect Japanese cause I know they know matters. Abviously I'm wrong. I get offended and if you still are gonna talk shit about a music stile and it's culture we are gonna go into a stupid flaming war.

[ June 16, 2002: Message edited by: Robi15 ]</p>

What do you mean by culture? Anyways I live in BC and drugs are absolutely easy to get. If you go to a rave in Vancouver drugs are handed out. This is fucking gay, I dont give a fuck if the ravers drop dead and die because they did it to themselves. I just don't want them to push it on little kids who still got a lot of growing up to do. I dont want those kids to become fuckin junkies on hastings or some other fucked up street. The way you talk it seems that your community is a lot more cleaner. Come here and go to a rave. You'll see exactly what I mean. Its fucking disgusting and it makes me wanna puke. Let me ask you something, have you ever seen a 12 year old girl strip at a rave drinking and acting like a complete fucking idiot?

[ June 16, 2002: Message edited by: 60 Second Assassin ]</p>

ravers are morons they take so much X that they melt their brains. and just trip out to bad music i hope that a day comes when they all realize that they've thrown away their lifes. and kill themselves off. ravers are morons who in my opinion just screw up everything they get to. like techno or some other kid's life, and they feel nothing towards it.

[quote]Originally posted by 60 Second Assassin:
<strong>What do you mean by culture? Anyways I live in BC and drugs are absolutely easy to get. If you go to a rave in Vancouver drugs are handed out. This is fucking gay, I dont give a fuck if the ravers drop dead and die because they did it to themselves. I just don't want them to push it on little kids who still got a lot of growing up to do. I dont want those kids to become fuckin junkies on hastings or some other fucked up street. The way you talk it seems that your community is a lot more cleaner. Come here and go to a rave. You'll see exactly what I mean. Its fucking disgusting and it makes me wanna puke. Let me ask you something, have you ever seen a 12 year old girl strip at a rave drinking and acting like a complete fucking idiot?

[ June 16, 2002: Message edited by: 60 Second Assassin ]</strong><hr></blockquote>


What you describe sounds very weird. And you state that ravers are gay again, even if they are 12 years old. I have been in Montreal in some events and they lookd very good. What you again describe seems to be something else than a rave/dance event. A kindergarden party gone bad.

I've been thinking and realized that raves arn't about music at all, it's all about sex. Just like that movie Kids. Talk about life imitating art.

[quote]
You're right. Living real life isn't good for your health sometimes.

You have to deal with:

1.) Other people
2.) Other people's perspectives
3.) Money
4.) Jobs
5.) Republicians
6.) Yourself
7.) Your perspectives

<hr></blockquote>

Sounds like a real hassle.

[quote]Originally posted by Robi15:
<strong>There are many stiles of technological music. I'm into tech/house and Detroit my self.</strong><hr></blockquote>

IIIH! Man is that cool, there aren't many of you're kind left nowadays :D

I really loved "real techno" in the old days with "the Advent" being the best techno-producers. Those were the days when trance tunes were good (Pete Namlook for those who remember) and when Docklands was just a rumour... I kinda moved on to house/breakbeat/ambient but I can still enjoy a good techno tune....

And yes, I agree with you whole-heartedly. It was kinda stupid off 60sec. ass. to pounce on the whole "culture" but I think he means the US.version of ravers. Man is that branch of the culture REALLY retarded, so in short I agree with SpinMaster X. And yo, spin. You are cool, I think I like you. Give me some love :D

// Bhm

Sluttygirls and Robi15, thank you guys so much for helping me out, i can't tell you how much I appreciate it. I just love that sound of detroit!!

Bhm you wan't some lovin from me eh? I thought you still despised me cuz of the Fanboy Bounty hunter that I am? Oh well, lets forgive and forget.

*makes sweet love to Bhm*


hehehe.

Hey Bhm, i heard you mentioned "The Advent". Have you ever played the Ghost in the Shell game from PSX? I swear it has some of the best detroit techno and other techno i've ever heard. From German Artists like Westbam and Japanese artists like Takkyu Ishino and Detroit peeps like Derrick May and of course The Advent and many more. If you haven't played the game then you should or DL the MP3's or get the soundtrack or sumthin. I recommend this to any fan of Techno and Electro.

p.s. Robi i'll be sure to hit you up

God damn,

What is this place now? A fuckin' church youth group?

Church youth groups = baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

Lets just do some LSD, listen to some Iron Butterfly, and stare at a ping pong ball for seven hours instead of this silly raving business.

This is like one big happy ravers' circle-jerk... :D

Thanx a bunch for the tip spin, I'll be shure to check that out...

Oh, and for the record, I wasn't all that serious with that hate crap, I thought I'd find myself an arch-enemy but you were no fun anyway :D

Anyway, personally I think doing drugs sux but some "ravers" say that it's the drug in conjunction with the music that melts their butter... I disagree but it's their choice and I don't care as long as they don't fuck with me.

I personally grew tired of the trance-"scene" when it started to go commercialized, I still listen to the same trance-tunes that I did 6 years ago which is quite sad, there are very few new trance-tunes that can compare themselves with the olden stuff. I haven't kept à jour with the techno-scene though so I can't comment on that. My new fave-genre is house which is commercialized but the thing is that the commercialized house-tunes tend to be almost as good and sometimes even better than the underground ones. Highly recommended

// Bhm

[quote]Originally posted by Bhm:
<strong>I personally grew tired of the trance-"scene" when it started to go commercialized, I still listen to the same trance-tunes that I did 6 years ago which is quite sad, there are very few new trance-tunes that can compare themselves with the olden stuff. I haven't kept à jour with the techno-scene though so I can't comment on that. My new fave-genre is house which is commercialized but the thing is that the commercialized house-tunes tend to be almost as good and sometimes even better than the underground ones. Highly recommended

// Bhm</strong><hr></blockquote>

Hahaha so i'm not the only one that listens to ancient tracks! I still vibe with old ass jungle tracks cuz i can't get into all this new monotonous evil repetitive Techstep jungle music of now. Is started to look into Detroit for something fresh and also like you I've gotten into the house genre cuz i love the catchy beats and funky basslines.

I never thought i'd say this but when it comes to dance music i'm an "Elitist Bastard". I'm always making fun of fanboys who are elitist bastards and i'm one myself.

Nah... psychedelic and goa trance is the way to go!
I`ve been spinning the aforementioned music genres for about five years now, and me and some friends have organized small parties, usually outdoors.
Great artists include:
Juno Reactor
Kox Box
Hallucinogen
Texas Faggott
..and lots more

BTW bhm, I don`t know which sort of "trance" you said had commercialized badly, cause atleast with goa\psy I haven`t (at least in Finland :D ) noticed such "hardening of the arteries"

Great that this thread, which started as the usual teenagers hormone-inbalance -fuelled rant, could be transformed into a sensible discussion.

I also wonder the strange concept of "raves" in the U.S which was at least in this thread often used to describe everything related to electronic music \ dancing events.

[quote]Originally posted by Bhm:
<strong>
I personally grew tired of the trance-"scene" when it started to go commercialized, I still listen to the same trance-tunes that I did 6 years ago which is quite sad, there are very few new trance-tunes that can compare themselves with the olden stuff. I haven't kept à jour with the techno-scene though so I can't comment on that. My new fave-genre is house which is commercialized but the thing is that the commercialized house-tunes tend to be almost as good and sometimes even better than the underground ones. Highly recommended

// Bhm</strong><hr></blockquote>

Since when has trance gone commercialized? It is stilla for the most part a niche market in most of the world (excluding England) and will probably stay that way because mindless MTV slaves dont have the attention span to listen to a song that lasts over 2.5 minutes. Much less one that has the same beat throughout the whole song.
-joseph

[quote]Originally posted by 60 Second Assassin:
<strong>What do you mean by culture? Anyways I live in BC and drugs are absolutely easy to get. If you go to a rave in Vancouver drugs are handed out. This is fucking gay, I dont give a fuck if the ravers drop dead and die because they did it to themselves. I just don't want them to push it on little kids who still got a lot of growing up to do. I dont want those kids to become fuckin junkies on hastings or some other fucked up street. The way you talk it seems that your community is a lot more cleaner. Come here and go to a rave. You'll see exactly what I mean. Its fucking disgusting and it makes me wanna puke. Let me ask you something, have you ever seen a 12 year old girl strip at a rave drinking and acting like a complete fucking idiot?

[ June 16, 2002: Message edited by: 60 Second Assassin ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

You didnt answer his question at all. For Christ's sake, not all ravers are stoned and not all gays want to get in your pants. Why wont you just shut the fuck up and go see a therapist or something?
-joseph

[quote] What do you mean by culture? Anyways I live in BC and drugs are absolutely easy to get. If you go to a rave in Vancouver drugs are handed out. This is fucking gay, I dont give a fuck if the ravers drop dead and die because they did it to themselves. I just don't want them to push it on little kids who still got a lot of growing up to do. I dont want those kids to become fuckin junkies on hastings or some other fucked up street. The way you talk it seems that your community is a lot more cleaner. Come here and go to a rave. You'll see exactly what I mean. Its fucking disgusting and it makes me wanna puke. Let me ask you something, have you ever seen a 12 year old girl strip at a rave drinking and acting like a complete fucking idiot? <hr></blockquote>

You are acting like a member of the kkk or some other racist fuck. You are blaming a whole group of people for the actions of a few people within their group. One time I got robbed by a black guy but you dont see me going around hating the entire black race. I dont rave, I dont do drugs Hell I dont even like techno music. I think raving is stupid but I dont hate ravers.

What I really think is stupid though is blaming a whole group of people for the actions of a few.

[quote]Originally posted by ThePunisher:
<strong>

You are acting like a member of the kkk or some other racist fuck. You are blaming a whole group of people for the actions of a few people within their group. One time I got robbed by a black guy but you dont see me going around hating the entire black race. I dont rave, I dont do drugs Hell I dont even like techno music. I think raving is stupid but I dont hate ravers.

What I really think is stupid though is blaming a whole group of people for the actions of a few.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Thats how he always acts. Check out the homophobia thread in the war room. He says all the same shit except even more violently if you can beleive it. Hes a fucktard.
-joseph

I actually went to a few raves and I really don't get it. Some I know think they (raves) are god's gift to humans, but I don't see it. To each his own.

Trance has become very very commercialized. Its on radios and commercials and everybody and their mother knows about it. They have all these watered down repetative trance CD's that are advertised on TV that sound like they were mass produced in a sweatshop in a 3rd world country or something and not by an artist who really sat down and put his/her heart and soul into it. In 1996-97 coporate america brought it to mainstream american audiences, watered it down, mass produced it and called it all "electronica". The moniker "Electronica" can go straight to hell. Its all about Dance music.

BIG UP ALL JUNGLISTS MASSIVE, COME NOW MY SELEKTA!!!!!!

JUNGLIST FOR LIFE!!!!

oh yeah and its not the actions of a few, its the actions of millions. If only you'd see the number of people who die from OD'ing at a rave it would sicken you.

[quote]Originally posted by joseph:
<strong>

Thats how he always acts. Check out the homophobia thread in the war room. He says all the same shit except even more violently if you can beleive it. Hes a fucktard.
-joseph</strong><hr></blockquote>

Joseph your such a fuckin loser. I totally bet your gay, why else would you hold a grudge for so long you stupid dork. Fuck off now you stupid fag. Your such a girl for holding such a pansy grudge you fucking loser. Go pick flowers and eat jizz. Fucking dork.

Do they teach you english up in canada or are you just mentally disabled? It has to be one or the other because there has got to be some explanation for why your grammar syntax and volcabulary are so fucking bad.

As for this "holding a grudge" thing, I beleived you when you said you were a changed man, but then you say you want to go to a rave and beat the ravers with baseball bats. That just proves that you are the same idiot you always were with the same abject hatred you always had. So do us all a favor and stop talking.

Bringing clarity to a confused world
-joseph

p.s. I am firm in my sexual orientation and your accusations of homosexuality neither sadden me nor do they make me question it.

If you don't like what I say then don't bother to reply in my topics, its that easy you dickweed. Also I find nothing wrong with the way I write as well as other Canadians you stupid pansy. So next time you got a problem with what I say or how I feel deal with it. Bitching about it and flaming like a dork is not going to change shit.

[quote]Originally posted by 60 Second Assassin:
<strong>If you don't like what I say then don't bother to reply in my topics, its that easy you dickweed. Also I find nothing wrong with the way I write as well as other Canadians you stupid pansy. So next time you got a problem with what I say or how I feel deal with it. Bitching about it and flaming like a dork is not going to change shit.</strong><hr></blockquote>

And suddenly it all makes sense. I dont have to counter-flame. I have nothing to prove. You never answer my questions or the points in my argument. You constantly call me puerile names. I dont have to contribute for you to make an ass of yourself. hahaha its so simple.

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-joseph