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Minimum:
CPU: 800MHZ? 1GHZ
Geforce 3 TI/ATI 9600 pro
RAM: 256 MT RAM
Standard:
CPU: 1,7GHZ? 2GHZ
Geforce 4 TI 4400/4600/ATI 9700/Pro
RAM: 512 MT RAM
Optimally:
CPU: 2,5GHZ? 2.8 GHZ
Geforce 5800FX/5900FX/ATI 9800Pro
RAM: 786? 1024MB-Ram
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Since it is speculative I would assume that the optimal would be 1.8ghz. Almost no one has a 2.5 ghz cpu.
<small>[ July 12, 2003, 08:46 AM: Message edited by: X ]</small>
No one has a 9700 pro as standard!!
All I have is a 9100. frown
I have a P4- 2.53 GHz w/ 512MB RAM and a Radeon 9700. I built this computer with Doom III in mind. When I bought my 9700, the 9800 wasn't available.
Looks like I picked a good time to build my new PC. buttrock
Seriously though, from what I've seen the video card is going to be by far the biggest concern, far more than building a whole new PC for this. I personally think that Half-Life 2 is going to be more taxing to a PC in all areas because of its new engine, but I could be wrong.
Of course I'm biased since I'm going to trade with Valve my first-born child for Half-Life 2. drool_2 drool_2 drool_2 drool_2
I guess I'll have to wait for Doom III and Half Life 2 on xbox. My little 1.4 p4 chip with a gforce 3 wont cut the mustard... crying
I'll just get the Xbox version. Whenever it comes out. frown
Im planning/hoping to buy a new PC this fall for Half Life 2. Im just not sure ill be able to afford it.
Doom 3 looks amazing graphically, but in gameplay Half Life 2 is going to own it for free. Doesn't look half bad either.
Thing I dont get about Doom 3 is why they have prettymuch refused to use textures. Poloygon everything is nice, but it doesn't really look any better than if they used alot of texutures. It just makes alot of people have to upgrade for no real reason.
I prefer no story and killing things to a story. Mindless action RULES!!Quote:
CraigPilecky:
Im planning/hoping to buy a new PC this fall for Half Life 2. Im just not sure ill be able to afford it.
Doom 3 looks amazing graphically, but in gameplay Half Life 2 is going to own it for free. Doesn't look half bad either.
Thing I dont get about Doom 3 is why they have prettymuch refused to use textures. Poloygon everything is nice, but it doesn't really look any better than if they used alot of texutures. It just makes alot of people have to upgrade for no real reason.
neeeeeed ram......
The hardware it'll take to run this game "optimally" probably isn't even on the market yet. That was the case with ID's last major release (Quake 3 Arena).
I will build a new PC with a 3.0C P4 and a 9800 Pro, just for Half-Life 2 and Doom 3, although I'm with Slerch: Doom 3 is gonna OWN HL2. :D
My PC now may be able to cut it, but I donno:
Athlon XP 1800
GeForce4 Ti 4200
512Mb RAM
Not too bad but I don't think it's enough to run those two monsters, well at least to run it the way I want to run it. :D
Has nobody bothered to notice these are labeled as "Speculative" requirements and not documented requirements from iD Software?
I would HOPE that these numbers come down a bit before the game goes gold, however it looks like I'd be able to run it just fine now.
Or... just wait and get it on the Xbox
IM STANDARD!!!!!
well im off by 200 on the geforce4 but its close enough.
buttrock
And my pc can barely run DOOM95forWindows!
An XBOX wink
No configuration required.
this is precisely why i prefer console games.
Not to mention that many (most?) hardcore PC-Gamers are pompus ass-nerds.
YES, MUCH nerdier than we are.
ahem...
that and the fact that the best japanese game houses develop primarily on consoles.
We've never met, but I like you already.Quote:
NeoGML:
this is precisely why i prefer console games.
Not to mention that many (most?) hardcore PC-Gamers are pompus ass-nerds.
YES, MUCH nerdier than we are.
I'm pretty much standard.
2.26
Gforce 4600
gig of ram
Agreed completely, upgrade about 6 months after these games are released to have a PC that doesn't just run it ok.Quote:
DolphinLord:
The hardware it'll take to run this game "optimally" probably isn't even on the market yet. That was the case with ID's last major release (Quake 3 Arena).
Heh Slerch, I built my computer with Doom III in mind also... Last year that is when I thought ID was about to release it. But nope... a year has passed and I still have the same puter, go figure. But I should be in good shape still.Quote:
slerch666:
I have a P4- 2.53 GHz w/ 512MB RAM and a Radeon 9700. I built this computer with Doom III in mind. When I bought my 9700, the 9800 wasn't available.
Jeeze the computer I had before had no hope in playing Doom III... it was a P3 600 with the old style 'camera shaped CPU'
Definately the most anticipated PC game of this year for me.
Doom III, meh.
Half-Life 2 buttrock
I got all the requirement but one, a Nvidia video card. I really need one so I can run Unreal Torunament 2003.
No offense, but you're on a message board dedicated to buying new $325 cartridges for a 13 year old videogame system.Quote:
NeoGML:
this is precisely why i prefer console games.
Not to mention that many (most?) hardcore PC-Gamers are pompus ass-nerds.
YES, MUCH nerdier than we are.
You won't find more pompus ass-nerds anywhere else. :p loco
heh, that's all it requires? I was expecting it to demand more. i had a fairly outdated system here and hated the low fps I was getting on games and finally decided to upgrade recently. I replaced my mobo, cpu, ram, vid card, and sound card.
i now got a DFI LanParty Pro875 mobo, P4 3GHz 800FSB cpu(w/ HT), 2GB corsair PC3200 DDR, FX 5900 Ultra (256MB) video card, and a Sound Blaster Audigy 2.
spent a ton of money on all that junk but i must say it's nice to finally be able to play PC games w/ everything turned up to max and still get a really nice fps. I just hope DOOM III and Half-Life 2 will run well with everything turned to max on my system.. spock
My PC is officialy obsolete
400mb 128 megs of ram...that was all I need to know to know it wont play lol
I'll agree with that to an extent. I knew one personally but stopped hanging out with him. I really got fed up with his "I'm a genius" attitude. He was cocky, lacked any form of creativity, ALWAYS had to be the center of attention, and was a bit low on common sense.Quote:
NeoGML:
this is precisely why i prefer console games.
Not to mention that many (most?) hardcore PC-Gamers are pompus ass-nerds.
YES, MUCH nerdier than we are.
I eagerly anticipate HL2, but have no intentions of buying DOOM3. I admit I put in more than my fair share of hours in the original Doom, but it didn't leave the impact on me like Half-Life did.
<small>[ July 13, 2003, 10:35 PM: Message edited by: Tidus Vash ]</small>
you know Tidus Vash and NeoGML, I personally feel the opposite. I've always loved PC games more then console games but I don't consider myself a 'genius'.. 'nerd'.. nor do I try to become anyone's center of attention w/ my PC.
as a matter of fact, when I first started checking out these Neo Geo forums here and saw all the 'drama' I was like "sweet mother of god.. what's wrong with these people!?".. but as with most things, i just go along with it.
Oh man... hehe, want a laugh... I am still on this old hand me down PC... PCs aren't really my thing. It is a P2 450 with 512MEG of RAM... hehe... maybe I can get it running as vector based loco
-Nick
yeah well, generalizations are never accurate :)
Either way... all of the hardcore PC gamers i've ever met have always had real attitudes, and they've always been real, soul-less dicks.
I guess i was pointing more at the attitude... They're still more dorky though.
You know it.
@Argentina '94: thanks. wink
I second that opinion .... I want a game not a tech demo !Quote:
Average Joe:
Doom III, meh.
Half-Life 2 buttrock
Valve has owned ID since Half Life surfaced and Quake III was a crayola colored joke compared to unreal tournament.
Fuck ID.....maybe they will have an origional thought go through their heads game wise ?
Of course they are fairly smart in continuing to make FPS games for the flock of sheep that think that is quality gaming oh_no
ID = tired ,dead and same old shit different year !
Much like EA and the Madden games
<small>[ July 14, 2003, 04:53 AM: Message edited by: candycab ]</small>
same here. I did a 2.4 Ghz pentium 4 (533FSB) and 1024 meg DDR ram.Quote:
slerch666:
I have a P4- 2.53 GHz w/ 512MB RAM and a Radeon 9700. I built this computer with Doom III in mind. When I bought my 9700, the 9800 wasn't available.
ATI all in wonder pro 9700 (also used for taking screen shots... WAHHOO). Looks like I'll need to upgrade a bit. The asus P4g8X deluxe board hands over 3.06 ghz, and up to 4 gig ram :D
ITS TIME FOR DOOM 3! I just hope its as good as the other games in the Doom series. Not just an overhyped.... not near as fun game.
†B†V†
Must kill candycab....must kill candycab....Quote:
candycab:
I second that opinion .... I want a game not a tech demo !Quote:
Average Joe:
Doom III, meh.
Half-Life 2 buttrock
Valve has owned ID since Half Life surfaced and Quake III was a crayola colored joke compared to unreal tournament.
Fuck ID.....maybe they will have an origional thought go through their heads game wise ?
Of course they are fairly smart in continuing to make FPS games for the flock of sheep that think that is quality gaming oh_no
ID = tired ,dead and same old shit different year !
Much like EA and the Madden games
I don't care if you have guns and are a trained cop, I got two words for you to spell out your Ultimate DOOM!
IDDQD IDKFA!
Ph33Ar M3!
Funny, but contrary to the experience's NeoGML has had with hardcore PC gamer's, mine has been the exact opposite. I, as well as a number of my friends, play games on the PC primarily and on consoles secondary and I don't think any of us would be considered "pompous" or "nerdy" anymore than anyone else. I am a member of a CS clan that is actually comprised of mature members who all get along well, and don't belittle others.
I think the difference is, with many of the guys who play PC games primarily is that they are into the strategy/sim type of genre's and can't find as much material on the consoles. Also the ability to customize is another draw for many. You can build your PC to reflect your needs, be they overkill, or as a budget gamer. I just finished mine a couple of weeks ago and it is similar to Freakit's in that it is ready for pretty much whatever:
Asus P4P800 motherboard, 3.0Ghz 800FSB P4(overclocked to 3.76Ghz), 1GB Kingston HyperX Ram, Tyan Tachyon G9700Pro (soon to be upgraded to a 9800Pro when Tyan releases their 256mb version), 200Gig Maxtor HD, Sony Burner, Sony DVD, Sony 3.5, Vantec Fan Controller, Lian Li dual Temp gauges, 500Watt Raidmax PS, custom case etc.
With Doom 3, Half-Life 2, Counterstrike Condition Zero, Age of Wonders: Shadow Magic and many others looming, it should be a great year for the PC. Either way, gaming is gaming and if you enjoy it then it doesn't matter the medium you play it on!
Thank you for being the voice of reason.Quote:
Idburnu:
Funny, but contrary to the experience's NeoGML has had with hardcore PC gamer's, mine has been the exact opposite. I, as well as a number of my friends, play games on the PC primarily and on consoles secondary and I don't think any of us would be considered "pompous" or "nerdy" anymore than anyone else. I am a member of a CS clan that is actually comprised of mature members who all get along well, and don't belittle others.
I think the difference is, with many of the guys who play PC games primarily is that they are into the strategy/sim type of genre's and can't find as much material on the consoles. Also the ability to customize is another draw for many. You can build your PC to reflect your needs, be they overkill, or as a budget gamer. I just finished mine a couple of weeks ago and it is similar to Freakit's in that it is ready for pretty much whatever:
Asus P4P800 motherboard, 3.0Ghz 800FSB P4(overclocked to 3.76Ghz), 1GB Kingston HyperX Ram, Tyan Tachyon G9700Pro (soon to be upgraded to a 9800Pro when Tyan releases their 256mb version), 200Gig Maxtor HD, Sony Burner, Sony DVD, Sony 3.5, Vantec Fan Controller, Lian Li dual Temp gauges, 500Watt Raidmax PS, custom case etc.
With Doom 3, Half-Life 2, Counterstrike Condition Zero, Age of Wonders: Shadow Magic and many others looming, it should be a great year for the PC. Either way, gaming is gaming and if you enjoy it then it doesn't matter the medium you play it on!
Nice rig you got there, although I really really wouldn't do that upgrade from a 9700Pro to the 9800Pro it's so not worth it, I mean even in the most demanding games unless you're at 1600x1200 you barely and I mean barely won't see any kind of improvement between the two.
You're better off getting the Next-Gen GPU that ATi (or nVidia) is going to offer instead of splurging on an expensive upgrade like that, especially if you've already got a 9700Pro. :D
BTW, I'm building a similar rig in the coming months (as HL2 approches), here's something fun to think about that I saw as pretty intriguing:
Setup 2 of those nice 36Gb 10,000RPM Serial ATA HD's from Western Digital in a RAID 0 config and then throw in your standard 7200RPM/8Mb Cache/XXGb ATA drive for mass storage.
I saw a similar system to that recently and the speed boost is quite nice when loading levels, almost half the time actually. :D
How can we play J? I will take ya on :DQuote:
JHendrix:
Must kill candycab....must kill candycab....Quote:
candycab:
I second that opinion .... I want a game not a tech demo !Quote:
Average Joe:
Doom III, meh.
Half-Life 2 buttrock
Valve has owned ID since Half Life surfaced and Quake III was a crayola colored joke compared to unreal tournament.
Fuck ID.....maybe they will have an origional thought go through their heads game wise ?
Of course they are fairly smart in continuing to make FPS games for the flock of sheep that think that is quality gaming oh_no
ID = tired ,dead and same old shit different year !
Much like EA and the Madden games
I don't care if you have guns and are a trained cop, I got two words for you to spell out your Ultimate DOOM!
IDDQD IDKFA!
Ph33Ar M3!
he he
†B†V†
Silly PC requirements...
/me - waits for the watered-down Xbox version
Good thoughts, JHendrix, and some good ideas on the HD setup. I had already bought the 7200rpm 8mb cache Maxtor 200GB drive before Western released their new 10000rpm serial drives and am glad to see that they are performing well. I will definitely consider getting a pair and using it for my "gaming storage" as you recommend.
I have thought about waiting on the 9800Pro and holding out for the next generation, and you make good sense in your call on it. My Tyan Tachyon 9700 can be overclocked anyway and has built in hardware monitoring to boot. Heck the way that Nvidia and ATI have been warring back and forth, I would not be suprised to see a new card from each in the next month, lol!
Agreed. I guarantee you id won't spend half the time on actual gameplay than they did with graphics.Quote:
Average Joe:
Doom III, meh.
Half-Life 2 buttrock
Look, I like Doom I and II as well as Quake 1-3, but all of them COMBINED aren't as good as Half-Life and all its mods. There's basically 2 reasons why I think Half-Life is better:
1) The developers actually try to use new gameplay elements instead of just simple 'run, shoot, run, run, shoot, shoot etc.'
2) Half-Life (along with 2 apparently) are/will be very mod-friendly. Some of my favorite PC games ever are HL mods (Team Fortress, CounterStrike).
I'll probably buy Doom 3 when it comes out, but I guarantee you it won't get as much play as Half-Life 2 in my house. :D
I don't know.. I got bored something fierce with counterstrike. I did like firarms... but I HATE HALFLIFES UPDATING SYSTEM. WHOEVER DESIGNED IT NEEDS TO BE FLOGGED!Quote:
Phoenix Down:
Agreed. I guarantee you id won't spend half the time on actual gameplay than they did with graphics.Quote:
Average Joe:
Doom III, meh.
Half-Life 2 buttrock
Look, I like Doom I and II as well as Quake 1-3, but all of them COMBINED aren't as good as Half-Life and all its mods. There's basically 2 reasons why I think Half-Life is better:
1) The developers actually try to use new gameplay elements instead of just simple 'run, shoot, run, run, shoot, shoot etc.'
2) Half-Life (along with 2 apparently) are/will be very mod-friendly. Some of my favorite PC games ever are HL mods (Team Fortress, CounterStrike).
I'll probably buy Doom 3 when it comes out, but I guarantee you it won't get as much play as Half-Life 2 in my house. :D
First you have to update the H/L executeable. Then you have to update ALL of your mods.... find them on the Internet... wait long lines to get them...
Action Quake 2 takes the cake IMO.
Followed by Delta Force Black Hawk Down. That owns EVERYONE for free.
†B†V†
Ok lets do this:Quote:
Phoenix Down:
Agreed. I guarantee you id won't spend half the time on actual gameplay than they did with graphics.Quote:
Average Joe:
Doom III, meh.
Half-Life 2 buttrock
Look, I like Doom I and II as well as Quake 1-3, but all of them COMBINED aren't as good as Half-Life and all its mods. There's basically 2 reasons why I think Half-Life is better:
1) The developers actually try to use new gameplay elements instead of just simple 'run, shoot, run, run, shoot, shoot etc.'
2) Half-Life (along with 2 apparently) are/will be very mod-friendly. Some of my favorite PC games ever are HL mods (Team Fortress, CounterStrike).
I'll probably buy Doom 3 when it comes out, but I guarantee you it won't get as much play as Half-Life 2 in my house. :D
1.) Quake 3 was THE mod game. Yeah yeah Half Life this, Counter Strike that, but if you look at all those mods they had so many revisions because of engine problems (Bunny Hopping anyone?) as well as glitches.
The engine was mod-friendly but when you started screwing with things it had like a domino effect on the code which caused other problems.
Quake 3 on the otherhand was built with Mod makers in mind, things were easy to implament and the un-intended concequences were minimal.
2.) Half Life was decent because it had a story, that was really it. As a shooter it was alright but the second half of the game was nothing but really shitty jumping puzzles. It was annoying as hell and it was the well written story that kept you going.
3.) Doom 3, if you've played the leaked Alpha is NOT going to be an iD run and gun/find the switch Doom game. It's not even being bred for multiplayer DM, the only Multiplayer in the game is going to be a 4-Player Co-Op.
Anyway the Alpha shows the game as a Resident Evil style FPS with a "piss your pants" scare effect. That and the monsters in there put Capcom to SHAME and I mean SHAME with the design. I mean you just won't SEE shit like that anywhere else, these creatures are so incredible not just in how they look, but in abilities as well.
That and there are lots of them, something you don't get in RE very much or in too many other games. It's going for the mood approach and will play on the survival aspect. It's ment to be more of an experience than the story driven HL2.
Also another thing with id, they're pretty damn smart to realize what they're good at, with a lot of their games being farmed out to the best in the buisness.
For RTCW they farmed out the Single Player to Raven while they worked on the multiplayer aspect of the game. The result was FAN-FUCKING-TASTIC! That goes for both Single and Multiplayer.
4.) Quake 1 was THE first 3D FPS, Wolf3D was THE first FPS, period. id invented the genre and each release they put out is like the pinnacle of what they're going to achieve game wise.
Quake 2 was the ultimate "Find the Switch" type game that really never got boring because it was so action packed. This is opposed to other games where things kinda sucked because of poor design. That and for its time Quake 2 was THE mod friendly game.
Half Life is really nothing more than a really fancy mod of Quake 2.
Quake 3 was the best Multiplayer FPS out there. It was made for DM junkies that were bred from Quake 2's crazy multiplayer. It was faster than UT, required more precision aiming and movement. There was no "I'll defend the flag by loading 6 rockets and blindly firing" which yeilded pretty good results because the splash damage of even a single UT rocket is MUCH MUCH higher than one in Quake 3.
The reason UT took off more than Q3 did was because it was slower paced and more forgiving - allowing more people to get into it. That and it was it's own style and it ran VERY nicely on lower-end machines. Something Quake 3 definitely couldn't do. That and Q3 had some inherant flaws. The CTF maps in there were great, but there was like what 4 of them? UT also had some great additions like Assault as well as some damn unique weapons.
Hell play UT2k3, it's right now my favorite Frag-Fest FPS game, because it combined all that was great with Q3 and UT and put it in one awesome package. It's faster than Q3 is, it's got insanely balanced weapons and well plays like Q3 with UT weapons. Things require more accuracy now and nailing someone with 3 rockets just doesn't work as well as it used to (cause there's 3 instead of 6 and there is lower splash damage), and Bombing Run is incredible.
Sorry for the rant but PC FPS games (especially the frag-fest ones) are my forte as it's probably the genre I've played the most of over the past 7 or more years of my life. :D
Good points, and I'll admit I've never been a huge fan of the Quake series like most people so I'm probably a little biased.
I'm into team-based play these days (Wolf ET and BF1942) but I still enjoy deathmatch in UT2003. It just seems like there's not that many people playing UT2003 online (or at least not that many good servers). I love the game, but I never seem to find any good servers... annoyed
EDIT: One other thing I'd like to mention: for those of you who don't play PC games because they're too expensive, think of it this way: I've probably spent more time on 3 PC games (Diablo, Diablo 2, Starcraft) than I have in the entire lifecycle of some console systems. I probably logged over 250 hours playing Diablo. I mean, how many console games can you say you've played 250 hours of (online, offline, etc.)?
Obviously the cost of a new PC is a big hit at first but I think if you can really get into online play with those games it's worth the investment in the long run.
<small>[ July 14, 2003, 08:07 AM: Message edited by: Phoenix Down ]</small>
As with any group of people, there are good and bad. I just had several bad experiences with one (who I was basically describing - hence my "agree to an extent"). This particular individual has proclaimed himself a genius in front of me and others. He also prides himself with the title of "nerd". He constantly brags about his networking knowledge and throws in various networking terms in what would otherwise be normal conversations just so he can look smarter. Several of his friends he had known for years no longer hang out with him either, but those people seem cool (one being a pc gamer that is totally opposite).Quote:
you know Tidus Vash and NeoGML, I personally feel the opposite. I've always loved PC games more then console games but I don't consider myself a 'genius'.. 'nerd'.. nor do I try to become anyone's center of attention w/ my PC.
Sorry for sounding like a creep.
I didn't have anyone on these forums in mind with my descriptions, just the steam I need venting whenever I think of that guy.
<small>[ July 14, 2003, 08:07 AM: Message edited by: Tidus Vash ]</small>
Sorry if I went a bit overboard but that was the fanboy in me screaming out in bloody murder.Quote:
Phoenix Down:
Good points, and I'll admit I've never been a huge fan of the Quake series like most people so I'm probably a little biased.
I'm into team-based play these days (Wolf ET and BF1942) but I still enjoy deathmatch in UT2003. It just seems like there's not that many people playing UT2003 online (or at least not that many good servers). I love the game, but I never seem to find any good servers... annoyed
EDIT: One other thing I'd like to mention: for those of you who don't play PC games because they're too expensive, think of it this way: I've probably spent more time on 3 PC games (Diablo, Diablo 2, Starcraft) than I have in the entire lifecycle of some console systems. I probably logged over 250 hours playing Diablo. I mean, how many console games can you say you've played 250 hours of (online, offline, etc.)?
Obviously the cost of a new PC is a big hit at first but I think if you can really get into online play with those games it's worth the investment in the long run.
There are very few companies that I have found to consistantly create revolutionary games that are a blast to play and wow me 95% of the time. The first is Squaresoft and the second is id. :D
Reguardless I've met more than a few people who just aren't into id's style, all of there games really follow this sort of gritty American horror type style of how things are done and as much as I pimp it as the best stuff on earth FPS wise, I can see some people not liking it as much.
As for PC games, you're damn right. Nice to see another Diablo nut on here, although I probably wasn't as bad as you were although I've spent more than my fair share of time playing through that game. I played a Barbarian first and then a Druid when the LOD came out. It's one of those things you know, it's always fun to guess what character a person plays in Diablo, I'm guessing your first run through was either an Amazon or a Paladin. I don't know why I say that but I guess it's cause you remind me of a buddy of mine.
Also, on a normal BBS I'd say the whole "PC's cost more" defense would be required, but come on we're on Neo-Geo.com. People pay $800 for Twinkle Star Sprites for gods sake, a $500 videocard doesn't seem all that unjustified now does it? wink :D
It's funny though, I didn't get into Diablo II nearly as much as the original (although I still played it a lot). I haven't played it in over a year, maybe I should start playing it again since I've been on a FPS kick too much lately. You know, get some variety. winkQuote:
JHendrix
As for PC games, you're damn right. Nice to see another Diablo nut on here, although I probably wasn't as bad as you were although I've spent more than my fair share of time playing through that game. I played a Barbarian first and then a Druid when the LOD came out. It's one of those things you know, it's always fun to guess what character a person plays in Diablo, I'm guessing your first run through was either an Amazon or a Paladin. I don't know why I say that but I guess it's cause you remind me of a buddy of mine.
BTW, my first run through was with a Sorceress, because I'm a masochist. buttrock
ID vs Valve/Halflife
I feel that alot of this boils down to a famous saying:
"The pioneers always get the arrows."
"The settlers thrive and reap the rewards."
ID(the pioneers) invented FPS. But tons of other game companies made FPS later on and just scooped in the money, and a good piece of the fame pie.
I played Halflife and its mods more than any other ID game combined(and their mods). The Halflife game premise itself was about as close to perfect as it can get IMO. Technically it had alot of bugs, someone mentioned bunnyhopping in CS. There were a ton of bugs in SP as well. Halflife was my favorite game on PC. Ever!
ID software however had all these other games that wowed us, scared the fuckin piss out of us, and also showed us a great time. They were also practically free of bugs in my experience. Level design is the friggin best out there. So all in all, I still have a great respect for ID. The only work I didn't like from them was Q3, as there was no SP quest envolved. I love being immersed in a FPS, just me and the environment. This is why I loved Doom 1,2,Quake, Q2, and all the mods. (frankly I was getting a bit sick of Q2 however).
The most fun I've had in an ID game is undeninably Quake 1. The game put me in a mood. A dark, somber of a mood that put me in the game, and intertwinded my soul within the depressing, and sickening confines of the Quake 1 environment. Second place is taken from none other than the original Doom 1, mostly because a few of the music tracks were basically ported Metallica, Slayer, and Pantera tracks.
So I look forward to Doom 3 and Halflife 3 with equal interest.
Thanks for listening-
<small>[ July 14, 2003, 09:50 AM: Message edited by: Electroman ]</small>
I hear ya man. I had more fun with Diablo 1. The music was much better, and maybe because it was so much more new to me.Quote:
Originally posted by JHendrix:
It's funny though, I didn't get into Diablo II nearly as much as the original (although I still played it a lot).
But D2 definately improve in other ways.
D3, if it happens will definately be another great time waster, er i mean a must by along with Halflfe 2 and Doom3