Kicked Out For Talking Saturn

Over the weekend I wanted to get down on some Fighters Mega Mix on the Saturn with a friend of mine. After ripping my place apart with no luck, I went to my local game store. I'm definitely lucky to even have a place near my apartment that caters to retro gaming.

However, the shop owner is a little weird, he sits in the back of the shop all day scanning over forums and ebay looking for the best deals to flip. He's a businessman and not a gaming and will brag about ripping gamers/customers off. This being said, for the most part, I try to avoid this store. But it's close and I really needed a controller.

So I go in, I walk up to the nearest clerk and ask for a Saturn controller. He goes in the back to look for the controller. In the mean time I start talking to a customer that is selling some of his games. He over heard that I'm buying a Saturn controller; so we start talking Saturn. At one point he tells me that he's getting rid of his entire Sega collection. Before I can even respond to this, the owner speaks up....

"HEY"
"I gotta pay rent here, if you guys keep talking you can get the hell out of my store"

At that point I look at what the guy is trading. Resident evil on the Saturn, D2 and illbleed on the DC and a boxed Sega Genesis. While I'm scanning over the lot, the owner hands over $45 for everything. I buy the Saturn controller and I'm out the door.

At first I was really fucking pissed. One for being pushed out of the door and the other because I just watched a guy get ripped off. There is no reason this guy needs to be a jackass but I suppose this is the nature of the business. If we want a local game store: It needs inventory, it needs employees and has to pay rent.

This left me conflicted. My favorite way to buy games is through the neo fourms and I love mom and pop shops but if this is way it works, is it worth it? There are a few game stores that have old stock but the idea that every game I buy from this guy is either a flipped deal or comes from a customer that he screwed over, makes me question the industry as a whole.

Yeah, I don't support many local gaming stores because it's just not economical to shop there. Their prices tend to be 20% above eBay, which is already an inflated market. I get that they have overhead, though. That said, the guy in question didn't really get ripped off. He had about $90 worth of stuff and the game gave him half of what it's worth. That's how used games/music/movie shops work.

Granted the store owner sounds like a complete douche-bag...

Bottom line is, nobody is being forced at gun point to sell their belongings below what "you'd" consider being ripped off.

If you're selling "anything" and you're offered below what you think is fair... leave, or find a higher paying buyer.

If you're buying something or looking to buy and the price is considered ridiculous by your standards... leave, or buy from a more reasonable seller.

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Originally Posted by GT40PWR

Granted the store owner sounds like a complete douche-bag...

Bottom line is, nobody is being forced at gun point to sell their belongings below what "you'd" consider being ripped off.

If you're selling "anything" and you're offered below what you think is fair... leave, or find a higher paying buyer.

If you're buying something or looking to buy and the price is considered ridiculous by your standards... leave, or buy from a more reasonable seller.

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True, but I for one don't really trust eBay and the like. Especially for the more expensive or rare games. Some shops are the only place where I can find authentic games, but at the same time get horrendously ripped off. They're my only real place to buy stuff.
I think I just need to get buying off these forums.

Had a similar experience with my local store..

The guy refused to sell me a used N64 controller..... he said they were only for matching up with systems to sell. He tried to get me to buy a new yobo one instead. like.. WTF..he only had a few n64 consoles (and like 20 controllers). I'm not a fan of 3rd party n64 controllers so I just left.

I think there is a clear difference between a mom n pop game store run by gamers and one run by reseller scumbags. Your experience will most likely be better in terms of service but a bit more expensive at the gamer run store because they tend to have a broader knowledge of prices for more stuff. The reseller scumbag is always a carny ass jerk but alot of the time, they have no clue. I've gotten great deals from these types on obscure stuff because they don't know/care to know if it's not a square rpg for snes/psx or a Mario game.

With these types, and I've made this mistake too many times, don't let your nerd get out of control and show excitement for stuff. That will put their con sense into curiosity which leads to eBay pricing. Go in, get a big stack and offer a low ball price for everything. They rarely turn this down if they are in business for making money.

This thread seems so familiar...

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Originally Posted by Doctor Shroom

This thread seems so familiar...

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DonMontG is MysticYolo?

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Originally Posted by arcwyvern

I think there is a clear difference between a mom n pop game store run by gamers and one run by reseller scumbags. Your experience will most likely be better in terms of service but a bit more expensive at the gamer run store because they tend to have a broader knowledge of prices for more stuff. The reseller scumbag is always a carny ass jerk but alot of the time, they have no clue. I've gotten great deals from these types on obscure stuff because they don't know/care to know if it's not a square rpg for snes/psx or a Mario game.

With these types, and I've made this mistake too many times, don't let your nerd get out of control and show excitement for stuff. That will put their con sense into curiosity which leads to eBay pricing. Go in, get a big stack and offer a low ball price for everything. They rarely turn this down if they are in business for making money.

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EGG

ZAK

LEE


Case in point: TNT Amusements.

hey Don what shop was this? I only know of 3 in the area lol.(and 2 of them are friendly and one of the shops is very very weird per say)

He probably kicked you out because he thought you were going to buy the stuff out from under him that the guy came in to sell.

ripping people off is all part of the business. hell, look how well gamestop is doing.

for instance, i have an old white wii system i don't use. asked gamestop how much they'd give me for it.... $15

and they sell them for $69.99


who in their right mind would actually accept $15 ?!

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Originally Posted by Cylotron

ripping people off is all part of the business. hell, look how well gamestop is doing.

for instance, i have an old white wii system i don't use. asked gamestop how much they'd give me for it.... $15

and they sell them for $69.99


who in their right mind would actually accept $15 ?!

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Again, that's just part of the business. They don't need to buy your old Wii (hence the low price-point). However, some people need to sell things to get by or just to get rid of things they don't want/need.

I think most game shop owners are cranky because they are like 1 failed transaction from going belly up at all times.

While the shop owner sounds like a cocksucker, there are also some weird outlooks going on here about what a business is. If there are next to none of these shops remaining that's a pretty good indicator that they are making fuck all money.

The places that are really taking the piss are the ones that more and more shops keep opening up to offer. How much do you think it costs your local pizza crap hole to buy some dough and some cheese and sell that on to you for $15 a time? Round cheese on toast at 1000% margin? Hence the new one opening every twenty minutes.

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Originally Posted by Doctor Shroom

This thread seems so familiar...

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I swear this fucking shit needs its own subforum.




Oh well, back to trolling french people/muslims in the comment sections of yahoo news articles.

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Originally Posted by Doctor Shroom

This thread seems so familiar...

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you tend to start re-reading the same shit over and over again

but I think the point everyone here is missing is that the Saturn is a piece of shit gaming system

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Originally Posted by VanillaThunder

EGG

ZAK

LEE


Case in point: TNT Amusements.

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...but..but their public access commercials are so awesome!

I had a co-worker who went to a birthday there last week..said it reminded him of the set of a SAW movie.

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Originally Posted by dspoonrt

Yeah, I don't support many local gaming stores because it's just not economical to shop there. Their prices tend to be 20% above eBay, which is already an inflated market.

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not all of us. :D

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I get that they have overhead, though. That said, the guy in question didn't really get ripped off. He had about $90 worth of stuff and the game gave him half of what it's worth. That's how used games/music/movie shops work.

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I actually discourage individual sellers from selling to me for just this reason. I actually get a lot of compliments for this practice (a little integrity goes a long way these days). Some people dont want to deal with the hassle of ebay or CL. hell, even forum sales can be a pain sometimes. Thats when those guys sell to me. My buy price has to be lower than value because I need to make money on the deal. Plus I need to sit on it for as long as I need to until it sells. At the end of the day, if my customer is happy with his transaction then I am happy. This is how it should be. Not enough businesses (game or otherwise) care about this simple little fact and that is both what put me into business and what keeps me going.

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Originally Posted by das roker

you tend to start re-reading the same shit over and over again

but I think the point everyone here is missing is that the Saturn is a piece of shit gaming system

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:lolz:

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Originally Posted by cdamm

not all of us. :D

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Famicom Altered Beast...

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Originally Posted by Cylotron

ripping people off is all part of the business. hell, look how well gamestop is doing.

for instance, i have an old white wii system i don't use. asked gamestop how much they'd give me for it.... $15

and they sell them for $69.99


who in their right mind would actually accept $15 ?!

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ill give you twenty

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Originally Posted by andsuchisdeath

Famicom Altered Beast...

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i tried. :emb:

Naah, I've already learned my lesson in regards to that stuff. Ask the customer/seller to talk outside, offer him more for that box of goodies. Probably still get banned, but totally worth it for a good enough deal. Funny thing, at the local flea market, the owner there asked if I wanted to buy a box of stuff a guy had come in with since he wanted cash and they were out. Caught him as he was walking out of the flea market and got 2 N64s, an SNES, turtles in time, banjo-kazooie, goemon on the 64, and a few other titles for a pretty good deal, and the booth owner was glad the guy got the money he wanted.

I think that's the reason there are so few sucessful brick and mortar gaming stores. Ebay, forums, online gaming stores can all do it much better and much cheaper. Less overhead, better prices, better selection and the satisfaction of knowing the Saturn controller you're buying wasn't from the blind kid with the dead parakeet from down the street.

This day and age, who needs the middleman?

I've been friends with the guys who run my local used retro game store for probably 15 years now. Their prices are OK, but with all the overhead of a physical location, they obviously have to pay low prices to get inventory. The only thing keeping them in business is that there are no shortage of idiots in this town who will sell their shit for less than half of what it's worth. They're good guys though, and since you can usually assume they paid 50% of the price tag on an item, if it's been sitting there a while they'll usualy take an offer as long as it's not below 50% of what the price tag is. They'll hook me up because they know I buy things to play and not flip. If for some reason I unload something there, they give me a lot more than they would some average guy. Still, I do most of my buying through forums at this point. Better prices, seller doesn't get fucked on ebay fees, etc. Usually all I get from the local game store at this point is bare consoles if I want to try a mod I haven't done before.

There have probably been 50+ times I wanted to tell a customer to meet me outside so I could give them more for their items than the store would, but I've been shopping there so long that I'd never be able to do that to them.

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Originally Posted by das roker

but I think the point everyone here is missing is that the Saturn is a piece of shit gaming system

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Uh, ban plz.:oh_no:

If these brick and mortar shops do sell below ebay prices, resellers are going to ransack the place for anything they can flip before the week is over anyways.

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Originally Posted by SNKorSWM

If these brick and mortar shops do sell below ebay prices, resellers are going to ransack the place for anything they can flip before the week is over anyways.

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money > inventory

Product sitting on the shelf is wasted time, and time is money. It's better to make a little money quickly than a lot of money slowly... or never at all if the price is too high.

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Originally Posted by Sex Lord Ki_atsushi

money > inventory

Product sitting on the shelf is wasted time, and time is money. It's better to make a little money quickly than a lot of money slowly... or never at all if the price is too high.

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That won't work for brick and mortar.

A couple of things.

The people who usually sell this stuff off for a pittance either: 1) don't give a shit about it and will just take whatever or... 2) are really in need of whatever they can get, today.

Another factor to consider (my friend owns his own game shop) is that these people often lumber ALL this stuff into a shop in a near to breaking bin bag or shopping bags. Even if they are told a price they secretly find unsatisfactory, they'd rather just take what they can get than carry all that stuff off that they don't really want/need to sell home.

However, on the flip side, this can be particularly amusing to watch if: 1) the person brings in load of crap that isn't resellable, like a broken PS2 with 100 shitty sports titles. Quite often I have seen ppl just ditch the stuff and exclaim "just throw it away then. I don't want it" or... 2) Kids who are underage who need parents with them to trade in. Time to risk their lives once again, riding back home with 40kg of Xbox gaming shite affixed to the ONE handlebar...

I remember going into Gamestation a few years ago with my mint Majora's Mask just to see what they would give me for it. Yeah only about £15.

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Originally Posted by Markell1991

I remember going into Gamestation a few years ago with my mint Majora's Mask just to see what they would give me for it. Yeah only about £15.

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could be worse.

there used to be a shop near me that dealt in MVS. my most expensive game in my collection at the time was MPE. i was offered $5.

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Originally Posted by cdamm

could be worse.

there used to be a shop near me that dealt in MVS. my most expensive game in my collection at the time was MPE. i was offered $5.

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Should have told them to stuff that offer up their money bag.

I watched a POS at a local shop here actually "negotiate" with a 11 year old kid for a couple strategy guides. He was selling them for 10 bucks a pop. The kid had 4 of them, the owner asked how much he wanted to get for them, kid replied "5 bucks for all of them?" Owner told him no way, so when the kid turned to walk out he said to him they were still haggling, hr then berated the kid, said he wasn't even being serious, and wound up giving the kid 75 cents for ALL 4, in store credit.

Cant someone on here tell us a cool story about how they got kicked out of a strip club or something for once.

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Originally Posted by theMot

Cant someone on here tell us a cool story about how they got kicked out of a strip club or something for once.

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There are plenty of those over at strippo-gyppo.com, a sister site.

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Cant someone on here tell us a cool story about how they got kicked out of a strip club or something for once.

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Put a dollar in the G String, reached in the purse for change.

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Put a dollar in the G String, reached in the purse for change.

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that isnt as good as the time i tried to swipe my credit card.

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Originally Posted by Markell1991

I remember going into Gamestation a few years ago with my mint Majora's Mask just to see what they would give me for it. Yeah only about £15.

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Unless it's CIB, maybe because that's pretty much what it's worth? They have to make money somehow.

The only successful store like that in my area is a really large comic book store than can afford to sit on the inventory and offer pretty decent prices because comics are the main mover and they own the building. Anything else is simply not feasible in the current market.

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Quite often I have seen ppl just ditch the stuff and exclaim "just throw it away then. I don't want it"

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Found about 30 2600 games outside the aforementioned store for that exact reason. That was pretty cool, even if Atari stuff is pretty worthless.

Does any one of those happen to be Air Raid? XD

I've been playing the supergrafx version of ghouls and ghost and it's arcade perfect.

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I've been playing the supergrafx version of ghouls and ghost and it's arcade perfect.

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I like the music a little bit more in the MD version, but yea SG pretty much has it under control in the graphics dept.

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Originally Posted by cdamm

that isnt as good as the time i tried to swipe my credit card.

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Our local nudie bar only accepts paypal (gift or +4%)

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Our local nudie bar only accepts paypal (gift or +4%)

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Always add the 4%. No matter how well you think she likes you, the stripper is not your friend.

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I've been playing the supergrafx version of ghouls and ghost and it's arcade perfect.

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could you provide more examples? Are the feet in front of the grass or behind?

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I've been playing the supergrafx version of ghouls and ghost and it's arcade perfect.

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Actually that's pretty common. Most PC Engine versions are arcade perfect (when accounting for different ratios and less graphical power), even better in some cases you could argue that they are better than the arcade versions. Some guy has a whole website about that.

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Actually that's pretty common. Most PC Engine versions are arcade perfect (when accounting for different ratios and less graphical power), even better in some cases you could argue that they are better than the arcade versions. Some guy has a whole website about that.

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I like the PC engine arcade ports. Dunno, they're a lot of fun. If NEC of America had better marketing and brought more games over, I think it would've been a success here. Also, most of the good games are on HuCards. I've owned two TurboGrafx 16, thinking of buying another one (making it the 3rd time I've bought the fucking thing).

I do love the Forgotten Worlds port, that might be one of the crowning achievements of the PCE, music is outstanding, all levels exist. And damn it's just awesome.

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Originally Posted by das roker

Also, most of the good games are on HuCards.

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This is good to hear. Does that mean 'most of the good games' can be played on the original white PCE without the need for add-ons, cards and god knows what?