Paging Average Joe, Spike, et al.
Open thread: whatever level or experience, this forum has all levels of expertise. Whatever your goals: shedding points, feeling better, or even swole acceptance.
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Paging Average Joe, Spike, et al.
Open thread: whatever level or experience, this forum has all levels of expertise. Whatever your goals: shedding points, feeling better, or even swole acceptance.
When I get time I would be happy to post my routine/diet etc. If anyone has questions, post them up.
Come to think of it, I better leave diet questions up to Joe. ;)
i'm all about functional exercising
currently halfway into Scott Sonnon's new Tacfit26 program and it's amazing: http://rmaxi.com/tacfit26/
it's all about primal and circular movements with a focus on high intensity workout days and proper active recovery rest days--after just 40 days i've seen some drastic improvements all around
i also went Pescetarian-Paleo about five months back and noticed a huge increase in my energy levels
I've kind of hoped a thread like this might come up, I've been going to physio for a few weeks for an injury that's nearly a year old now, tore a muscle inside my shoulder blade doing pull ups whilst laughing at family guy - they shouldn't put comedy on the gym tvs....
It's better to an extent, it still aches most mornings I wake up as it has done since about a month after it happened. She's given me stretches to do plus once a week she shoves her fingers so far inside my shoulder blade that the pain makes me sweat. But, doesn't seem to be doing anything really.
She's suggested I try acupuncture. My question is, is acupuncture voodoo bullshit or has anyone got any experience of it actually working?
I'm 32 and have been active my whole life, but since this happened I can't play sports, don't go to the gym, and for the first time ever I'm starting to get a belly. In short, I'm desperate so I need someone who's thinking more clearly to tell me if I'm chasing the tooth fairy.
I've seen it work for some people, I don't know if it's a placebo effect or if there's a scientific principle that's working--I wouldn't be surprised if it's the latter. For example: Chiropractic is a mix of actual, useful physical therapy and total, utter quackery, so it can be useful. I'd suggest trying it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevenk
what's the restrictions you have on movement?Quote:
Originally Posted by stevenk
One of my friends got rid of his back problems with accupuncture. No matter if it's a placebo or not, it's worth a try IMO. If it works, it works, eh.
ive pretty much cut red meat out of my diet.
i find that if you are doing great with a diet 95%of the time that the couple of cheats you allow yourself dont hurt so bad.
thats when i can have an occasional steak or a burger. i allow one red meat dish every other week and at this point i dont always even use it.
Man it has been some time. Last check in on the old thread I think I was still in 36-38" pants and around 230-240 lbs. Now 34" pants- 215 lbs 6' and as of January passed my 2nd Degree Black Belt in Enshin Karate. Strength wise I use Kettlebells and body weight. Compound lifts and ballistics. Diet wise I just use a bit of common sense,portion control,avoid fast food and HFCS/Fake food.
The restrictions on movement I have is actually not too bad, pretty much the only thing I can't do that I used to be able to do is link my hands behind my back, one over the shoulder and one under if that makes sense. If I was to do nothing strenuous again then I could probably happily live with it but I don't want to give up on exercise (more specifically sport) at 32 and turn into a lard ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Average Joe
I've tried a few press ups, just three sets of 15, next morning agony. A few seated presses on the base plate, next morning agony, it's been forever and it's just staying the same.
that's tough to sort outQuote:
Originally Posted by stevenk
i had a patellar tracking problem with my right knee and the way i fixed it was to literally do a bit of everything to systematically remove what would irritate it or not and because i took the time to do that, combined with proper strengthening exercises for that issue--for a while i couldn't even do a proper basic squat without my knee popping and having pain the next day, but now i can whip out pistol squats with no problems again
try doing push-ups with bars/handles to ease shoulder strain; get some bands and try isometric front and side raises; grab a kettlebell and do some circular strength training; avoid isolation training and do some multi-joint/synergistic exercises to allow the surrounding muscles groups to pick up the slack for your damaged shoulder; or even try yoga or swimming
again, try it all if you're able and see what works
there's no shortage of ways to exercise
that's all you can do really
Yeah, think I'll give those a try, like you say some decent compound exercises should help balance the load. I'm thinking about trying to pick up a personal trainer who specialies in injury recovery - just for a couple of months or so - I've looked into it a bit and they're not cheap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Average Joe
Just as a warning when I picked up the injury I was working on a muscle overload 'fast as you can perform the rep' program, I forget who's it is. My advice would be caution if you try it.
So, I will post some mumbo jumbo about my training habits. I will say things that are standard knowledge, and I will also say things that many would think is against the norm.
I train 7 days a week, every week. Almost never do I take a rest day. Far too often do I hear the term "over training," which makes no sense to me. I haven't experienced anything that would suggest that my body can't handle "it" any more. The proper retort to this is usually, "well, you're clearly not pushing yourself hard enough in the gym, then." My answer is, "The hell I'm NOT!"
The next controversial thing about my workouts is the amount of sets and the intensity. I work every set to near failure. If my 8th, 9th and especially 10th rep aren't nearly impossible with PERFECT form, I raise the weight. I do this for about 25 working sets of 8-12 reps per session. This is considered too much by many people. It's also thought that working to failure isn't a good thing too often. My question is, why?
Third stupid thing I'm about to say is about the subject of supplements. I think, for the most part, supplements are absolutely unnecessary. A complete waste of money, as most supplements are snake oil. Money in a jar. Easy money, at that. Far too often do people see some roided freak promoting product XYZ, and claims it was XYZ that got them there. For only 69.99 per bottle, you can harness this awesome power.
Gimme a fucking break.
Too often, as well, do people look for some sort of chemical assistance to help them look good, instead of ol' fashion hard work. Not everyone looks amazing because it is HARD. If it were easy, everyone would look like Urien from Street Fighter 3. Thankfully, it IS hard, and that's what makes a good physique special to obtain. By chemicals, I also am referring to steroids. That's something I wouldn't do... but I must admit, they do sound appealing on paper. Too much money and too questionable to the sides included in what is, ultimately, a short term goal. No sense risking my health and lifespan to look "good" for a few short years.
So, workout hard as hell, watch what you eat, to hell with supplements (outside of a multi vitamin), and don't be a pussy when it comes to training "too much."
Questions?
Exercises:
Compounds, compounds, compounds. Squat, bench, deadlift, military press, etc. Do them. A lot of times, people focus on biceps (lol), and small muscles instead of many at once. Yes this all makes perfect sense IF you are training for a fitness contest and you're damn near perfect looking, yet you have to fine tune a few things. Okay, that makes sense. You want everything to be on point, and tuning those last areas is a given. But when you have a mediocre body, doing things like this, and shying away from compound motions is really idiotic.
If you're trying to build over all muscle, do NOT be afraid of a certain exercises. Don't fear an exercise because it's "too hard." You have to embrace it because it's hard.
You know how many people do dead lifts? You know how many do pull ups? These are the people that WANT to gain muscle. These are the people who brag in the office how "long they were in the gym," but don't actually do what it takes to make that that time worth it.
Oh yes, that's another thing. If you tel somebody "I was at the gym for three hours yesterday," then slam your dick in a door. What in the name of hell were you doing there that long? Anything over an hour and half is foolish. There's simply no way in hell you're able to work THREE hours, and have them all be very intense with short rest periods between sets. Stop staring at the gym bunnies and get off your god damn phone and lift. Christ.
So when somebody tries to impress you and says they were in the gym for three hours, ask them "what did you do, text for two and a half hours?" Whatever it was, it certainly wasn't all hard work. Not unless they're geared/roided out of their minds... and even then, highly highly doubtful.
"I do a million sit ups a day."
Well then, you're a moron.
I don't know what the hell it is with America's obsession with abdominals. Maybe it's like the great white whale that nobody will ever obtain, and that's why they're held in such high regard. They're not impossible to get if you have a great diet. And, this is going to blow people's minds, they're still a muscle. They're a large muscle in your midsection that should be worked like any other muscle. Do you grab a 5 lb weight and do 100 curls? Of course you don't. So, why on earth do people do countless countless sit ups and crunches?
Yes, low weight and high reps is good now and then. Not just for abs, but for everything. But all the time, three times a week? Oh stop it. The abs will respond to weight resistance just the same as your other muscles. Try doing some weighted exercises, three sets of ten. They WILL respond.
And if you're heavy set, don't just assume you can do sit ups to make your gut go away. That's years of late night exercise commercials lying to you. You can't spot reduce. And no, it's not just you. "I can't seem to get rid of this belly fat. That's all that's left." Well no kidding. Between belly fat and quads, that's where humans usually lose fat last. It's your body trying to keep you alive. It means well, and it just comes off last there. And if you think for one second you can get it to come off there before other places, you're out of your mind.
Ask yourself: How often have you seen someone with ripped abs and had flabby arms? If you said never, you're right.
As for the whole Patrick Bateman "I can do a thousand, now" ab routine... it just won't help. You can also do up to 100 pushups in a sitting but almost never do people that do that have huge pecs. It's good for your heart, I'm sure, but it won't build muscle as well as you think. Likewise, you're not gonna necessarily build baby fists abs by doing a ton of abs without some sort of weight resistance.
Okay, now I'm just repeating myself...
Recently? I changed my diet slightly, from eggs/bacon/coffee in the morning, to a protein bar I really like instead. Avoiding pop, candy, and snack food the best that I can. Nothing to brag about; a notch off the belt and just overall feeling better.
Thanks for posting these tips up Spike and Joe, there were a few things mentioned that I hadn't considered. I'm working towards a soccer build and have trimmed back down to the overall desired size through cardio, but lack proper definition (really only have proper definition in the legs. At least I can keep pace with guys 10 years my junior, but my throw-ins lack power, and subsequently, distance. I have a hell of a time with pull ups, but leg exercises come much easier due to the nature of the game and martial arts training.
So I've been back on track,
running two days and resting the next.
It's nice, I've been able to go from XL to L t-shirts.
Still trying to get rid of my gut though.
If there's good routines for that I'd love to hear about them.
As I already said above, you just gotta lose it all. Diet and exercise everything... it will come off. It has to. When you expend more calories than you consume... tah-dah!Quote:
Originally Posted by rarehero
This panda needs to get off his lazy ass and get a routine going. Thanks Spike for some pointers on working out. Really going to make this happen, as there is no try.
Nice thread, I'll be popping in to read up periodically on what a lot of you guys have to say.
@Spike: Great breakdown on the whole ab absession topic. Most of the people out there who tend to sound more legit are pretty much in consensus with all the things you talk about.
Sometimes I check out YouTube videos by the Hodge Twins...mostly for the laughs, but I think a lot of what they say seems to make sense.
I'm by no means any kind of expert. At the moment I'm looking to see if I can save up to sign on for a few months at a local boxing gym. In the meantime, I rely mostly on body weight exercises at home:
- Reverse Push-ups
- Spider-Man Planks
- Squats
- Burpees
and for cardio:
- Jump rope
- Shadow Boxing
If you guys have suggestions for any additions/modifications that would probably benefit me, I'd be open to 'em. I'm not really looking to get huge or anything, just pretty much working towards some strength gains and improving my overall endurance.
I've also started cutting some of the excess sugars/carbs out of my diet. More water & less juices/soda, less rice on my plate, and snacking is now more fruit & nuts. I also take fish oil as a daily supplement as well.
I'm hoping this thread takes off...and with that I turn it back to the pros here.
Spike, what does your diet look like? You go to the gym everyday but do you lift everyday? What does your routine look like?
I try to go about 6 times a week, but days like today I just HIIT on the treadmill. I benched saturday, deadlifts & pull ups on on sunday and squats & OHP yesterday. After all that I am a bit beat and want to let my body recover one more day before picking up some more weights. What would you normally do in a situation like that?
Any one got any good suggestions for strengthening legs - upper & lower? I've got really long legs, and I don't really want to do the spindley look... only problem I've got is I'm carrying some old football injuries so cannot load my knees nor my back too much... Few months ago I was doing squats with a pretty easy weight and my back just went... took a month to recover and I was in agony for over a week :(
So, I'm finding my choices for exercises rather limited. :annoyed:
diet and exercising are very person-specific
i've developed a firm belief in needing to come to a mutual understanding with the physical and nutritional requirements our bodies need, and since we're all such drastically-varying individuals, it's in our best interest to learn our limits through introspection/understanding and not simply from provided advice
that's not to say you should ignore the advice of others, but just don't hold it as a universal truth
in short: if you feel you need to rest, then rest
i'd personally rather rest an extra day and get 100% production the next day then half-ass a workout while operating at a lower percentage
(again, that's just me, do your own thing)
That's a very good point Joe - when I've gotten into routines in the past, I tend to overdue it, I think a lot of people do. It's not worth blowing yourself out for a week because you wanted to push yourself until you nearly black out in every exercise.
I agree. Though diet wise it is body specific but for low BF% you usually have to follow the same rules and guidelines.Quote:
Originally Posted by Average Joe
I know your goals have always been different then Spikes goals if I recall. You aimed for the Bruce Lee type body.
My goal is to be able to do this. My core isn't strong enough yet though, I would just flop down. That and I need to lose a bit more.
http://www.menshealth.com/celebrity-...e5-670x350.jpg
Awesome threat. I love the advice and I love the message from Spike about hard work.
Spike - Your body looks insane! Those shoulders are huge.
I did 5-3-1 for a while to learn how to do power lifting and improve my overall strength. http://www.muscleandstrength.com/wor...ng-system.html I think systems/workout programs etc. are kind of just a stepping off point, I don't want to follow something day in and day out.
My usual exercise is a muay thai gym twice a week and some jogging / pull-ups once a week. When I have vacation from work (which is often) I do powerlifting at the gym, mostly dead lifts, mil. press, bench and a bunch of stuff with dumbells.
I feel like after a year of messing around with 5-3-1 and 5 years at a muay thai gym, this is my year to get in much better shape. My fitness goals are two fold:
1. Cut my beer intake by 75 percent. That sounds lame, but I was drinking A LOT of beer, and cutting back for the last two months has already helped me drop 4 pounds.
2. Get bigger arms and shoulders. My legs are pretty awesome from all the martial arts etc. but my arms need to be bigger.
I'm inspired by Spike's 7 day a week program - it's too intense for me, but I obviously need to step it up a notch.
I weight 170 pounds and am 5'11". I think it's a fine weight, just need to convert the beer love handles to muscle. Recently discovered the joy of skull crushers!
Beer is the hardest part to get rid of!
I am 5'11 and 178lbs. My legs use to be the strongest part of me but they have been lacking. I seemed to have messed up my left leg over the past few weeks. I used to be squatting 350+lbs for 6-8 reps (5 years ago). Now its about 240lbs. My bench has gone up as I was never really able to bench more then my body weight. I hit 245lbs the other day. Sad when your bench more then you squat, need to fix that.
yeah, we're both very differentQuote:
Originally Posted by Darren870
i'm not into bodybuilding, i'm all about functional fitness and primal movements
i'll do a write-up of my diet later as it has changed a bit
human flags are pretty badass
i really wish i had some place where i could work on them
I realised recently i really have to get of my arse and do something when the other day i was laughing and my belly was moving as i laughed...
Well, this will have to change with the individual, but yes. It's lifting every time. I split my days up in four, and then repeat:Quote:
Originally Posted by Darren870
Arms. I include delts in with biceps and triceps. This always confuses people, as some have a "shoulder day."
Legs. I then do legs. I try to give my arms a rest by not doing chest and arms back to back.
Chest. Doing chest hits a lot of tricep and shoulders. And because of that, I try to make half my day fly motions, and use JUST pectorals, if I can.
Back. Then I finish with back. You will get some bicep action on back day, but if your form is strict enough (and it better be), it will be mostly back
Well, wait a minute... where the hell is your ab day? I will only do abs as warm ups on some days that I get to the gym much sooner than my workout partner(s). If I feel like I'm still too sore to do a body part that is up next, then I will take a "day off" and do abs. But usually, I swear by the compound motions for taking care of the abs. That and my diet.
And yes, speaking of diet... it's odd. I eat about 3500-4k calories a day. I eat very often. And I try to get in at LEAST 200 grams of protein a day. I eat a ton of tuna and chicken, along with rice. I try to stay away from saturated fat and sugar. And when I say try... I do. I have a terrific amount of discipline with what I eat. I just ask myself, "will this help my body grow?" If the answer is no, I don't eat it. And I cut drinking out all together. It's just so damn counter productive.
I have to type this quick, because I am literally going to the gym in 20 minutes.
You may also notice I don't do cardio, and yet and pretty damn lean. It's not that I cannot or will not (I ran a 5k with the wife last weekend), but it's because I'm trying to GAIN weight.
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT: Cardio alone doesn't help you lose fat as well as you think. If you want to lose fat, you better be doing weight training. When you run, your metabolism boosts for a few hours. When you train with weights, it's boosted for days after. The "damage" you do to your body from weight training takes a terrific amount of calories to fix itself, and rebuild the muscle. Your body is recovering for a much longer period of time... if you do squats the weight will fall off you (assuming the diet is in check).
Okay, my routine was similar when I was training more. I think I am very limited by my gym though. My work gym only has dumbells, where my weekend gym has proper olympics weights. So that's why I tend do heavy lifts on the weekends (and maybe a day if I work from home) where I do the other lifts during the week. I've been doing kettlebells just to switch it up at my work gym since I am so limited and it is a full body exercise.
You don't even take protein powder? That is the only supplement I take besides multi-vitamin. I'll post some pics up later tonight. I have been trying to keep my diet under control more and increase my calories but not with empty calories.
Do you do IF or anything like that?
Typical week day for me is :
Breakfast: 2 Eggs, Cottage Cheese with Fruit, Coffee
Gym: Light training, cardio or just stretching. Maybe some Kettlebells or HIIT if I am going to not lift heavy in the afternoon
Snack: Protein Shake (1-2 Scoops), some almonds
Lunch: Chicken Breast with Veggies and maybe quiona or sweet potatoes (the latter are recent additions)
Gym: Lifting with light jog to start
Post Gym: 2 scoops protein shake
Dinner: Salad, Soup, Chicken, Steak, Fish, something of that sort. With little to no carbs. Dinner is probably my weakest point.
The non work days I only go to the gym once but that's when I do heavier weights as I can use a barbell.
If anyone is looking to manage their diet in a convenient way, I highly recommend the free app MyFitnessPal--I regret not using it earlier (more on that below). I lost nearly 20 pounds in two months without exercise by just managing my calorie intake--I then started working out with it without any hiccup. I didn't change the types of food I was eating, just portion control. Don't get me wrong, while using it I ate a lot of healthy stuff because I like healthy stuff, but I was also throwing in dark chocolate (my favorite breakfast) and a slice cheese pizza so long as it met my daily calorie goal. The trick was to choose items that weren't as caloric but filling and I wasn't ever hungry (however I had to be certain to eat at certain times because then I would get really hungry since I was running close to empty most of the time). The good thing about the app is (1) it's free, (2) it lets users crowd-source and add items so the catalog of food and calories is pretty large and accurate--plus they added a convenient bar code reader with your camera to quickly identify foods (a lot of the freshly packaged meats and veggies at my local grocer were already included), (3) the website associated with it is also useful when you're at a computer, (4) you can calculate exercise (and the add'l calories you've burned/are allowed), and (5) it helps you set daily calorie goals. I eventually bought a decent food scale (I recommend Ozeri for price/quality) to calculate at home when I didn't buy pre-packaged items so I could make accurate calculations.
I actually downloaded the app two years ago at the recommendation of a friend who's really into fitness (coincidentally, ten years ago when I was serious about fitness I was the one who got him into fitness... then law school and other excuses), but then I sat on it. The catalog of food back then wasn't as robust and, more importantly, they didn't have the bar code scanning option. Finally I ran into a guy I know from my local alumni club and he'd somehow slimmed down a ton, I complimented him and he mentioned he was using the same app. So I decided to get serious about it and--boom--it worked. Let me also say that those 20 pounds, going from 245 to 225 were the easiest for me and my build, for me dropping down another twenty or so to ~210 would mean getting pretty lean (that was my weight when I was at my best) so that's harder and needs more commitment. Obviously, you have to be committed to using it every day and not take too many days of blowing over your daily goal (and if you do, still try to calculate it). But I must recommend it because it works and isn't some "get slim fast" bullshit.
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Originally Posted by RBjakeSpecial
The things I eat are so various, it would be almost impossible for me to give an average day. Just lots of chicken, fish, red meat (ooooh, dreaded red meat), skim milk, water and rice. No sugar or excessive saturated fats.
Also, if anyone here actually has instagram, I am on there as stevemcdevitt
Have you seen The Rock's twitter feed? His comments/photos on what he eats are easily my favorite part.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel
Here's a sampling (it was posted in the longest thread):
http://cavemancircus.com/2013/03/25/...esome-34-pics/
i pretty much eat the same things (more or less) every day
i still do controlled-fasting via The Warrior Diet but i included fish into my diet and went Paleo (don't miss grains or dairy at all)
i've never sat down and calculated the exact caloric intake number, but i'd say 3000-3500 is the average but i know i've gotten close to 4000 on certain days
plenty of veggies (preference for brussel sprouts, broccoli, carrots, and peppers), kale every day, 4-5 eggs (with yolks), shrimp 2-3 times a week, tuna 2-3 times a week, avocados, unrefined coconut oil, nuts & seeds, nut butters (almond mostly), a mouthful of goji berries with 88% cocoa dark chocolate or a few raw cocao beans, i'll typically mix chia seeds into my almond butter as well, and i'll finish off with a couple bananas if i feel hungry still
also, i recently started taking a veggie-based general health supplement called Vega One that i add some powdered wheat grass to and is mixed with unsweetened almond-coconut milk
i do a bunch of herbals supplements too on top of multivitamins, but that's a new post entirely
Yeah, someone was talking about that at the gym today. The things he eats is insane, but we also have to know that he's got to be roiding it up, and that makes the playing field a little uneven.Quote:
Originally Posted by aria
Yes... the thread is up! Good work Bobak!
So, where to start... back when the old thread was up I was still lifting a lot and getting heavily into Yoga (don't laugh... a proper Bikram session will kick anyone's ass!).
Since I have moved to Turkey and have not found a proper Yoga teacher. I am teaching some people myself but have personally moved on from just Yoga to my own style (for want of a better word). I am heavily influenced by the Barstarzz movement (see youtube). I do insane pull-ups etc as in the youtube videos. I combine this with weight training every now and then and quite a bit of yoga to stay flexible, have a strong core and also keep my awesome Yoga breathing right (plus concentration and form/posture - concentration is very important in any lifting!). Yoga breathing kind of requires a whole new post I feel and I will try to get round to it.
Result: I am ripped. like Spike, but maybe not quite as big. I will post pix at some point. Someone posted a pic of a human flag further up... my flag isn't as perfect, but pretty decent nonetheless - again a pic will come once I am back at my work PC which has the pix.
What I am getting at is kind of what Spike said: mix it up. He is more of an expert and better at explaining, but I will say this: work hard for 45 to 60 mins. That is enough. And I mean work hard... no phone bullshit, no chatting. Your heart should be pumping, you should be sweating a lot! Super-sets all the way in my book!
As for Diet I agree with the above. The bonus of living in an agricultural area in Turkey is that a lot of awesome stuff is available cheap. I make my own peanut and almond butter (easy with a blender), I eat a shit load of various beans and lentils, lots of veggies and fish. Chicken and red meat I eat not too much of... out of personal choice. My caloric intake is huge... and like Spike, I grase...meaning I eat frequently... like something every hour and a half (the kids in school always make fun of me because I always pull out a carrot or a container with something else to keep me going).
I am just back from the gym... so a bit hyper and maybe not too fluid in what I say... apologies for that.
Overall, loving this thread and appreciate the info, especially by Spike and Joe!
Question to Spike: what do you mean by compounds? Maybe a stupid question... but please elaborate.
Working out is a lifelong learning process. I always love learning new methods and changing things. Not only does this help my muscles by shocking them with new stuff... it also keeps me entertained :)
I'm pretty sure he was referring to compound exercises, which work several muscle groups, as opposed to isolation exercises, which only work one particular muscle group. For example:Quote:
Originally Posted by krautcroissant
Pull ups (Compound) vs bicep curls (Isolation)
Yes, makes sense. Thanks!
Also... that is what I do...er'day :)
There's a flag I pulled in the gym 5 months ago. Not perfect, but alright
http://s20.postimg.org/tbzdvw4gt/P1142291.jpg
Back in mid-February, I started a ketogenic diet. Basically, 20g of carbs or less per day, 65/30/5% of calories every day from fat, protein, and carbs, respectively. (No, that is not a typo; 65% of my calories come from fat.) I'm 6' and have gone from 257lbs down to 207 so far. That's with zero exercise, eating about a 1000 calorie per day deficit. But when all you're eating is fat and protein, you fill up fast.
Now that the weather is nice and finals are over, I'm going to get back on the road bike. Not really interested in getting all muscley. Just didnt want to be fat anymore. Probably have another 25-30 pounds to go to really be trim, but I've gone from a tight 40" waist to a loose-and-need-a-belt 36" (really, I should buy some 34s but I'm cheap), and shirts went from XL to L.
Edit: And like Bobak said, MyFitnessPal is the shit. You can custom set your macros and see where you are at any point in the day, and it just helps you see what you're actually eating every day.
Nice human flag! I need to try it really, I think I might be able to do it now. I'll have to try it around the streets of London.
I have to imagine a lot of this is technique... I would like to try this.Quote:
Originally Posted by krautcroissant
rereading this thread while eating an egg sandwich is great.
Fuck it. It was only a matter of time before I posted pics
http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img...ljTT-610xh.jpg
http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img...BLOo-610xh.jpg
http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img...CTzr-610xh.jpg
Now we finally see the nosejob...
Yes, straighter... but so damn indifferent that nobody noticed or cared. :) I can actually breath out of the damn thing finally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sex Lord Ki_atsushi