This wasn't discussed.Quote:
Originally Posted by BladeDancer314
White Walkers
There's more than one, and they all have the same general physical appearance.
Show is so racist.
This wasn't discussed.Quote:
Originally Posted by BladeDancer314
White Walkers
There's more than one, and they all have the same general physical appearance.
Show is so racist.
when they first showed the white walkers marching, I think it was the season 2 finale, they all looked different.
I guess the show head honchos have gone a different route since then.
They still look like the same shit generally speaking.
Ever since the end of S2 I can't see them without thinking of Iron Maiden album covers:
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I knew I seen the white walkers somewheres. Thank's Spoon.
Anyways, the White Walker from last Sunday had a crown. Apparently, he is a character that doesn't officially exist in the books, just as fairy tales.
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Originally Posted by norton9478
False. What you saw was Darth Whitewalker, father of Luke Whitewalker.
I think I've seen only 1 black person that I can remember lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Taiso
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Originally Posted by BladeDancer314
The story takes place in another fucking universe and people assume black people have to be there; even though there's no Asians on the show at all.
HBO may have to be fined and forced to sell their show, for great justice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xander Crews
there was one (black dude), the pirate/smuggler who wanted to have the queen fucked by a monkey I think, sorry I can't recall what the exact animal was LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Xander Crews
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Originally Posted by wyo_vr4
Somewhere out there someone will point to a constitution and by laws, which don't even apply to the circumstances, but regardless will browbeat.
I forced Teddy to borrow my Season 1 BR. He's getting into and enjoying the show but was not surprised by what happened in "Baelor." Got me to thinking, what would be your Top 5 TV series moments that completely blindsided you.
My Top 5 (spoilers for various HBO series):
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Enjoyed Cersei's great conversations from last week's episode. And that Littlefinger...
Last episode was a very mixed bag for me. I'm getting really tired of characters having conversations that don't mean anything to their particular arcs.
Cersei and Oberyn having a conversation about her daughter does nothing to advance either of their stories. We already know all of the important things we need to know about these plot elements. It's not even character development or growth-nothing about their conversation will have any meaning laer on.
I feel that with an hour to dedicate to the characters and plot, they need to do a better job having meaningful character moments and action no the screen that are not only good conversations and developments but also help to move their arcs along.
Think about Arya and the Hound on the road together. This week's exchange was awesome, but ultimately redundant given that the previous week he punched a farmer in the face and took his silver as a means of hardening her up to the world. I felt that the water dancing sequence where he ridicules her was better because it addressed specific instances of her romantic ideals from previous storylines. It used the past to inform the future. That means they wasted five minutes of my time the previous week doing exactly the same thing in a meaningless conversation with farmers that we will never see again.
Likewise with Brienne and Poddrick. Completely pointless scene with reveals that could have been handled in a much more efficient fashion. Dedicating a five minute conversation to them in an hour long show with as much narrative as this story has needs to be used more efficiently.
And don't get me started on how, once again, Jon Snow is a spectator in his own life in this show. This time, it was the bad guy cliche of ignoring the real threat to taunt a helpless girl so that Jon could backstab him through the head. So now Jon is incapable of even beating one dirty fighter?
The fucking guy was a creation of the show and should have been sacrificed to the altar of Jon's advancement so that the cahracter wold look stronger and FINALLY be takinc control of his own life. Instead, Jon is lucky to survive a climactic battle that smarterr writing would have had him winning, thereby getting audiences on his side not only because he's a Stark but becuase, AT LAST, he's kicking all forms of ass and not needing help to beat one dirty knife fighter who thinks he's hot shit. Good writing doesn't have this happen with throwaway characters.
It's the same with how Rick and the Governor ended their fight in The Walking Dead. The writing does their character no favors by emasculating them for no apparent reason.
Jon should have just kicked the guy in the nuts, ripped a dagger out of his hands and then gutted him with it before saying 'Thanks, I'll remember the lesson next time.' Or even tripped him into the fire, where he burns to death. That would be gruesome, certainly niot the actions of a young man trained to fight in castles and keeps by honorable knights, but a good way for him to adapt and survive in his new role.
I'm still holding out hope that this show will figure out its pacing issues this season.
That was my main gripe as well. I keep waiting for Jon to step up and take control of his destiny. I was hoping that following his adventures north of the wall he would return with a stronger attitude.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taiso
Are you referencing the TV Rick Governor? Because the only favors the writers are dispensing in that flaming pile of crap are to Robert Kirkman's pockets. Season 5 could have been condensed into two hours and the search for Terminus was more tedious than the one for Sophia.
Jeeze, you must really hate independent movies....
I hate it whenever a story arc is botched by poor creative decisions.Quote:
Originally Posted by norton9478
Mikhail:
Yes, I'm referring to TV Rick vs. Governor. But my gripes about that are documented over in 'that other thread.'
As it regards Jon, perhaps now that Ghost is back with him, the show will start veering him towards the character he's actually supposed to be.
Jon and Daario are the only two characters I think the show has completely missed the mark with (so far). Everyone else, more or less, is okay to me. Not 'perfect', but good enough.
I'm going to say this again to anyone reading:
Watch Black Sails. It's the best show I've seen this year. Brilliant pacing, wickedly clever character arcs, a likeable rogues' gallery of characters, good production values, great acting all around and is a lot of fun.
this was supposed to go here:
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I don't get it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mendel
Misa Horny?
Black Sails is awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taiso
Maybe this will help:Quote:
Originally Posted by Xander Crews
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utW3...tailpage#t=132
Is it White Walker or Wight Walker?Quote:
Originally Posted by Taiso
I never read the book I assumed that it was a Wight.
Edit: Nevermind. I read that the Sorcerers are WHITE WALKERS and the reanimated Corpses are Wights....
Would have been satisfying if Jon wrecked him, but the lesson conveyed in that scene is that being a cunt can bite you in the ass....no matter how much of a hard motherfucker you may be, someones gonna do you when they get the chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taiso
Also, fuck me for having to add another character to my list of "fictional twats who won't get their just deserts in my lifetime".
Fucking Ramsay Bolton and Griffith from Berserk....
There was no need for the lesson. Jon's already been held back by the circumstances in his life/the writing on the show long enough. Taking a bunch of volunteers to Crastor's Keep was a good first step but the tension in Jon being disarmed and held at a disadvantage was completely unnecessary. It only made the character look weak at a time when, in all other respects, he was becoming stronger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poonman
The TV version of Jon has already learned ALMOST all the 'lessons' he needs to learn (there is one more yet to come). The show fucking blew it on that count. Shitty end result to the fight. The showrunners need to do better with Lord Snow.
They'll both get theirs in the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poonman
Loved this past episode, but hated the Yara/Theon part. They really built it up at the end of last season, and in this episode, Yara gave a great speech at the beginning, just so that it ended so anti-climactic. It sort of reminded me of Theon's awesome speech at Winterfell before his troops betrayed him.
Alright, I'm caught up with all of the tv seasons.
I went ahead and read all the CliffsNotes for the books.
I'm ready for Cercei to go all "Mad Queen".
Yara starts to play a bigger role in the story from this point forward. She's one to keep an eye on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Castor Troy
I really like the actress playing her. She's got the right amount of grit for this character. I imagined her being a little more pretty in the books, but that's not even a real issue. She's solid in the TV show.
Tyrion's speech at the end pretty much nailed another Emmy nomination for him. I absolutely loved how angry and powerless he felt at the end, finally able to tell the truth in a city of liars and with only one card left to play in his hand.
This season is flying by too quickly.
Whole speech was great except for "guilty… is that what you want to hear?" Poor delivery on that one, and accent seemed to shift.Quote:
Originally Posted by Comrade Mikhail
Last Sundays episode was really good. Next Episode is going to be epic if it sticks to the books. I really don't know what to expect from this show. It strays from the books quite a bit.
I do have to say though, and much as i'm liking this show, True Detectives shats all over it. That is probably in my opinion, the best series to ever grace HBO. Hopefully next season gets a good cast.
I liked it better when he plead guilty to polishing the one eyed gopher into a pot of stew.
True detective wasn't a show, it was an 8 hour movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by greedostick
But yeah... It was great...
If you read the books, Sansa's scene in the courtyard was totally like
right out of the books, perfectly rendered.
Overall, I enjoyed this episode most of all. The juxtaposition between the Hound and Littlefinger was really well played out.
This episode felt more "by the book" than any of the other episodes.
And again Dinklage delivered an amazing deep emotional performance.
I wonder if the last episode will end with the grey lady.
I have a feeling it will begin on the shitter, if you know what I mean.
it sucks that they've had to recast the mountain yet again.
the first actor had it down, the way he chopped off that horses head was awesome lol
like anyone really remembers who played Gregor Clegane back then.Quote:
Originally Posted by BladeDancer314
Didn't he wear a helmet the whole time?
I've watched season 1 and 2, three times now. And I can honestly say I have no idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xander Crews
the second actor looked nothing like the first, this current one has a closer resemblance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xander Crews
as far as the actor himself, I couldn't name him for a million dollars.
I'm not impressed either by Daario Naharis #2
next season they'll replace Dinklage with Bridget the midget, no-one will notice.
not when he kills the horse and fights the hound.Quote:
Originally Posted by norton9478
those might have been the only 2 scenes aside from the jousting.
oh yeah, he also beats up flower boy before the hound stepped in, pretty much the same scene.
Trying to not to read much of this thread (yet) but just finished up season 3 last night. Episode 9 was clearly an "oh shit" episode but obviously, old news to those of you current. I should be caught up in a week or two. Till then...
PS - Thanks Comrade Mikhail for loaning me the season one blu-ray. The show has been pretty addicting thus far.
after last night's episode, i'm surprised this thread hasn't bumped up again. that was a pretty gruesome ending.
Too much Princess Bride reference of an altered phrase, constantly repeated over and over again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cylotron
Were you honestly expecting a clean ending to that fight?
It kind of played out as I imagined it from the books. The major difference is that I expect Gregor to grab Oberyn's leg and break it, rather than swat him down. Otherwise, that fight isn't really over. Gregor is going to be feeling that fight for a long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by ReplicaX
I love how much foreshadowing goes on in each episode.
When Sandor says that poison is a woman's weapon, and Arya is like "I would use anything. I would kill a person with a chicken bone." Oberyn is a self described expert on poison, and the thing about his poisoned spear was kind of subtle.
I also really enjoy transitioning between Arya and Sandor, and Sansa and Littlefinger. The contrasts in how each captive is treated and developing is nicely accomplished.
Next season is going to probably suck for a lot of us, who hate the Iron Islands, Theon, and their stupid pirate people, because we are going to get Victarion, who isn't really interesting.
Spoiler:
Last night's ep was a pretty strong return after the two week layoff, but not without its issues.
I thought the fight between Oberyn and Greggor was pretty badly edited. Too many quick cuts to imply speed, motion and grace when they could have just hired a spear fighter and shot him doing his thing. The event itself had good intensity but I felt like I was watching the fight scene at the end of Commando, which I hated. Just show me the people fighting. HBO needs to hire a few people that know how to edit fight scenes with melee weapons and have them help the director.
There were also a few minor deviations from the source and I'm starting to wonder if they're planning to finish this without Martin's input since the dude doesn't know how to just finish the damn thing without taking weeks off at a time to go to conventions, promote his movie theater and watch the NFL.
I felt the same, wish there was more substance to the fight. A lot of the spear twirling didn't do much for me. I kind of know how the story goes but it still annoyed me that if Oberryn is really trying to avenge his sister's rapey death, you stay out of arms reach till Greggor's finally dead right? It's in the script as they say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taiso
Oh, regardless of if you read the books or not, that squashed grape visual at the end will probably stay with you for the next day or two. It will with me. :lolz:
Eh, I'm not so sure I can agree that it was 'annoying.' I see it as entirely believable, given the premise, the individuals and the stakes involved. Especially in a world where people that are skilled with weapons and fighting are practically gods among men.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teddy KGB
Oberyn was a very fiery person who had nearly 15 years of rage, a stain on family honor when family names and honor are a really big deal, and a burning desire for revenge brewing in his heart. More than just killing Gregor, he wanted Gregor to point to Tywin Lannister with his dying breath. He was punishing Gregor for a lot of that fight, while taking a few hits himself. He didn't just want Gregor dead. Gregor was the weapon, but Tywin was the hand that wielded that weapon. He wanted the whole world, all the important people that mattered, to see that Tywin was the architect of Ellia's death. Remember, he didn't say he hated the Clegganes. He said he hated the Lannisters, and that was the reason why. I'm sure he despised Cleggane as well, but there was a bigger endgame here and Cleggane was just one part of it.
I think that no matter how much you say 'Everyone knows this or that,', you have to carry that type of hatred with you for the same amount of time, and let it gnaw at your soul and at your guts, and live in a world of swords and spears, with all those intrigues and politics, in order to even begin to think about simply efficiently killing someone under those circumstances.
I have absolutely no issue with Oberyn talking up a storm while taking Gregor apart. Yes, he made a mistake, but passionate people often did and often do. I think this is an instance where Martin thought about the motivations of the characters and did it right, given the world they live in.
Not to dismiss the other things you said (it was pretty much spot on) this sums it up well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taiso
I especially enjoyed Littlefinger's line to Robin about how people can die anywhere, even over a chamberpot. I don't remember that in the books. I feel like there is a lot of liberal use of the source going on, but I don't mind it.