Says that heaven is a "fairy tale", and does not exist.
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The man may be a world-renowned genius, but he's also one of the greatest trolls of all time.
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Says that heaven is a "fairy tale", and does not exist.
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The man may be a world-renowned genius, but he's also one of the greatest trolls of all time.
I figured christians were the trolls.
If that is trolling, then he is trolling the trolls cause I would file Christian evangelism under trolling as well.
I'd call it restrained contempt.
If I was even half as crippled and disfigured as he was I would be putting out mathematical theorems that prove god is a cock sucking faggot.
Losing use of your dick at 21...along with everything else. :oh_no:
Yeah, I wouldn't believe in god or fear death either.
I think he's taking heaven in the retarded hyper-literal sense that dumbo christians tend to think of it as. He's right, of course.
Their version of heaven is no paradise to me... I want to fly through other galaxies. Yes that would be heaven to me. You cant do that in white fluffy cloud pearly gates land. So fuck it.
Either way, I find the responses at the bottom of the page hilarious.
His religious views has been obvious all this time.
I'm not sure how you can be a scientist and not not be a christian with beliefs about heaven, hell, etc etc.
what a scientific fundamentalist! his arguments make no biblical sense!
Haha!Quote:
Originally Posted by XcomplexzX
Hawking shouldn't be wasting his time stating the obvious.
Get back to wormhole hyperjump technology please.
I like how this made news at all. I mean, who honestly thought the guy believed in heaven in the first place.
So, no skycake?
I agree with you, commie. Great minds should not waste their fucking time! I'd take teleportation too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abasuto
They need to hurry and get on the ball with that, so they can inevitably figure out a cure for Transporter PsychosisQuote:
Originally Posted by Darklighterx
This has got to be one of the best posts I've ever read. Nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spoon
Hmmm, lets see
atheists --
Stephen Hawking
Thomas Jefferson
Richard Dawkins
Issac Assimov
Ben Franklin
Carl Sagan (mostly)
Friedrich Nietzsche
Thomas Edison
Sigmund Freud
Albert Einstein
theists --
Jedah Doma
Yup.
I saw him at a lecture a month or two ago.
One of the questions was,
if he could give up his intellect for a fully functional body,
would he do it?
His response was no, and that he values his intellegence more than his body.
Wouldn't change a thing.
I don't think he's necessarily bitter towards god,
he doesn't believe in a god to be bitter at.
He poked fun at other scientists at the beginning of his career that tried to involve
god into the whole equation, but it was more or lest in good fun.
I found it pretty cool that stephen has a pretty good sense of humor.
I insist that Ben Franklin be referred to as "Ben 'jammin' Franklin".
That cat could really swing. Also, you have to be pretty awesome to be on the $100 and not be a president.
hawkings "trolling"? The only trolling here is the title and the O.P.'s thread comment. Hawking's doesn't troll. He states truths backed by well-defined scientific observations and rational thinking.
He was a user and a dick. I somehow turned that into a five minute college presentation that I hadn't prepared for.Quote:
Originally Posted by T.A.P.
So if there's not god, is there no end of the world next week?
Fundamentalist materialists are as qualified to speak on the spiritual as religious persons are to speak on cosmogony.
If not for atheist we would still be living in borderline dark ages conditions.Quote:
Originally Posted by qube
Instead of telling us about god online, he'd be sitting in a shack without electricty drawing stick figures of god by candle light. His family would have all died by 40 of easily curable diseases and the church would of tortured and executed atleast one of his loved ones due to false accusations of witchcraft.
Eh the way I see it as religion is what it is. The fact that Hawkins believes something doesn't change what I believe or don't believe. The whole subject of a smart man now believes something is pointless to me. He might be smart, but I have my own brain. I'm talking about this from a broad viewpoint. You know he must be going mad over the years thinking about this, and he really has no way to express it. That must suck. I feel for him in that respect. I say Cool to what he believes and cool to what you all believe, and cool to what I believe. Thats whats cool about being human.
If humans were really created by some omnipotent being...
...I'd like to know why this being wasn't omnipotent enough to make a warranty and return policy to go with it. XD
I'll trade you Jedah for Albert.Quote:
Originally Posted by qube
Heh, guess he'll be in for a big surprise if he's wrong! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghost-Dog, presented by [Available]®
If God (should he/she/it exist) has a good day the day Hawking passes away, we will get the very first ghost on wheels... :D
I thought Einstein was agnostic, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthtownKid
Though, agnostics are really just atheists at heart.
Not many people know this, but Issac Newton was a religious nut.
For every minute he spent studying physics, he spent another trying to figure out when the Bible says the Eurth will end.
Nope. We just say "I don't know if God exists or not. Give us a reasonable and falsifiable proof that God exists, if you claim to know the truth."Quote:
Originally Posted by subcons
Because God seems to be quite contained since the old testament times and stopped destroying whole cities or flooding the entire world, I'm afraid giving a proof would be quite a difficult task to do. ;)
Obviously God's kingdom is not for you. And it isn't for everyone; that's a given. Desiring time space travel abilities is silly really because it lacks the foundation of actual time space which we can't really prove. I mean, do you really believe we went to the moon? Come on. The theory of outer space is just a theory, meaning it hasn't been proven yet. So before you wish to fly through outerspace, make sure you wish for outerspace to actually exist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Popcorn Sutton
"Heaven" is a concept that goes well beyond angels sitting on clouds and playing harps.
Maybe it's a synonym for a place where all dimensions are one, where everything is all and nothing at the same time. This is how I picture the state of the universe before the big bang (if there was one). This concept does not necessarily involve a god, though.
Agree 100%Quote:
Originally Posted by Abasuto
Its kinda sad to think of how many people have been tortured and/or killed by the church throughout history due to different beliefs, misunderstandings and flat out paranoia, only to have the Church later say "Oops, our bad".
"Round up the Heretics, we are having ourselves a bon fire tonight!"
Been to the place where all is one a few times and let me tell you - when you come to the realization you may not be able to ever go back, it becomes hellish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Takumaji
Every degree of power involves a corresponding degree of freedom from good and evil.
http://worldfamousdesignjunkies.com/...009/09/lsd.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Agent Sands
When you mix star of davids, brahma, a smurf, and a dogs head in a cauldron, you can transcend time and space.Quote:
Originally Posted by Popcorn Sutton
Then you haven't really been to this place because there neither is a way to escape from there, nor would you really want to escape. Anything will be there and nothing, every idea, force or thought without structure, form, dimension or our idea of time, everything just exists (and even that is not really the case). There's no "I" or "you", it's like a black hole without the hole, a permanent state of "active nothingness". Some call it Nirvana, others Heaven, Paradise, Garden of Eden, etc. Different names, same meaning. It just became trivial due to our childish ideas of the gods as old people with long beards or heaven as a place of milk and honey with fluffly clouds... but the concept itself is not trivial at all, on the contrary, it resembles the ultimate meta-physical complexity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Agent Sands
Hope this babble makes any sense.
Well like that's just your opinion, man. All those devout Christians can't be wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Takumaji
"I'm absolutely not an atheist. I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. The problem involved is too vast for our limited minds. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws. Our limited minds grasp the mysterious force that moves the constellations. I am fascinated by Spinoza’s pantheism, but admire even more his contribution to modern thought because he is the first philosopher to deal with the soul and body as one, and not two separate things." - Albert Einstein.Quote:
Originally Posted by qube
Noone is right or wrong in this case, neither our scientists with their funny formulas, nor followers of various religions with their creation myths and redeemers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Agent Sands
In my opinion, mankind has not yet reached the required evolutionary level to grasp all these higher concepts. Sometimes there seem to be cases of spontaneous evolution that lead to the birth and development of minds capable of drawing conclusions that are revolutionary or even seem scary to joe average. Eventually, people will listen to them and then it's time to take the next evolutionary step. Think of the discovery of fire, spoken and written languages, steam power, atomic energy, etc.
Yet somehow we neglected the spiritual evolution within the techno babble. That's why we're still on the same pitiful philosophical and meta-physical level as 100 years ago. We're able to put computers on nano particles or alter our genes but still wage war against other beliefs, ridicule our philosophers or indulge in atavistic rituals that shall bring us eternal life.
Maybe working on resolving this contradiction is the way to go in the future. I mean, yeah, the larval stage is cuddly and comfy and all but it's not meant to last forever.
As water created animals to carry it uphill, language (aka The Word) created man to carry it into space.Quote:
Originally Posted by Takumaji
But what does God need with a starship?
Yeah suck on that, Pube!Quote:
Originally Posted by SPINMASTER X
"Bring the ship closer!"Quote:
Originally Posted by StickmanLoser
Great scene.
Ahahaha you nerd.Quote:
Originally Posted by StickmanLoser
Einstein was really articulate in English for a guy that didn't speak it as his first language.Quote:
Originally Posted by Popcorn Sutton
There is no way in hell us puny human beings can even come CLOSE to understanding what the hell this universe is all about. I'm so sick of scientists and religious people trying to separate everything into science vs faith/religion and saying "it's either this or that, pick one". I'm sorry but it's all one thing and it goes so much farther than we could possibly comprehend. That Albert Einstein quote I posted is the mo'fuckin troof. Deal with it.
Yes I believe in God but I'm also a free thinker.
If god existed, he would have taught Jesus capoeira to pass on to his disciples.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPINMASTER X
Jesus has powers, why would he need capoeira? If I could shoot fireballs and levitate I would have no need for flips.Quote:
Originally Posted by Agent Sands
p.s. This is gonna end up in somebody's sig.
Mestre Jesus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Agent Sands
Fireballs are cool but that's devil magic. Capoeira is stylish and something that he could have passed on to his followers to protect themselves from the Romans who subjugated him and turned his miniseries of parables into a fully syndicated tv drama.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPINMASTER X
Same here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Popcorn Sutton
If heaven was exactly like how the Christian fundies think it is; I would want no fucking part of it... because it would be packed full of assholes.