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It's just a rumor at this point, but I could definitely see this happening. I've been hoping for this since the first HD repack came out.
I'm not sure how well MGS1 would clean up, but I bet they could get MGS2 and 3 looking amazing in HD. The two remakes I've purchased (God of War, Sly Cooper) have been great compilations, and totally worth it.
I don't care that I already own several copies of each. Count me in on this if it turns out to be true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghost-Dog 2000
I am so there. Would be well worth the price of admission.
ME TOO! I have bought Metal Gear Solid for PS1 about 3 or 4 times and am more than happy to have an excuse to play through it AGAIN! It's by far my favorite with number 4 coming in a close second.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jedah Doma
I love MGS2 and 3 and really want to play them again. I've only played through them once, getting ready for MGS4, so I need to go back!
I hope this is true.
If Metal Gear Solid was redone in HD but left exactly as the original one was, meaing No Twin Snakes "revisionist" crap with different voice actors and stuff, then I'd be all for it. Basically the original game with a visual upgrade is all that's needed. No I was never a fan for the Game Cube "Twin Snakes" nor Kitamura's Matrixy stuff.
This could be good shit, I didn't like the other metal gear solid games all that much but I'd be down for an HD remake of it assuming a graphics update is all it gets (and maybe that bullshit Kojima wanted with the "you die, your save is deleted and you start over" as like an additional difficulty)
count me in.
Yea the second Snake stepped on that missile and did a Matrix jump over it, it officially jumped the boat. Twin Snakes was an interesting idea, and as much as I love old Silicon Knights, it never really jived with the original. Why did they have to ruin Mei Ling's voice?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Shagohod
You mean have the same actress drop the shitty accent and sound like a normal person? I was just fine with that. Mei Ling was raised in America, so why would she have an accent that makes it sound like she's lived most of her life outside of the U.S.?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jedah Doma
The cinemas were goofy as fuck, though, but you can blame Kojima for that. Ryuhei Kitamura made them crazy at his request.
All the voice actors were the same in Twin Snakes, except for Gray Fox. Damn near everyone went by pseudonyms in the PSX version, but everyone that was involved with that was brought back for the remake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Shagohod
Sounds good, though I've got the God of War HD release but I've still not finished those. I'd buy it but probably never replay them.
I'll put myself in the "liked Twin Snakes" camp.
I would consider buying a cheap PS3 if this is real and good.
Unless they redo the graphics, this is going to look like absolute shit in HD.
Ditto. I'm currently without an SDTV, so I've taken to playing the PS2 through a TV Tuner card on my PC. It suffices if I play it in a window, but I would kill for a full screen 720p/1080p version.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ancient Flounder
Hopefully 2 and 3 would be the Substance/Subsistence versions..
this is the only Metal Gear game i can still play
i kind of stopped caring about the stealth/action style of play but MGS sits so well with me i'd definitely be all over this (actually been meaning to play through it again sometime soon so hopefully it's real and not too far off)
Yeah, I mean I never played the twin snakes but I didn't like the idea of it because I hated versus and the returner. I am still open to try it and would buy the collection if it was twin snakes, but would prefer the original, cutscene wise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Shagohod
#1> Yes I'm aware that all but one voice actor came back for the redo on Twin Snakes, but I'm sorry. I felt their performances sucked. I actually had both versions of the game running damn near simultaneously at one point to compare and the PSX original was king of the hill. Outside of getting caught up on semnatics (Mei Ling's origin) I felt that was part of her charm was that she had such a thick accent. Then there's Dr. Naomi... it's like the voice actress didn't even try the second time around. Same thing for the guy who voiced Liquid Snake. Compare it to the 1st time around and it's more like he was sleep walking through it. And Gray Fox not sounding like what I had come to expect him to sound like was a deal breaker for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ancient Flounder
#2> All the more reason I really don't care for Hideo Kojima as the years have gone by. The dood messes with his own IPs for God's sake when they clearly don't need to be. The first two Metal Gear outings, though 8-BIT 2-D had "camp" in them, (and even to some degree the non canon Snake's Revenge) but were done in a serious manner. This tradition followed suit with MGS being the first two retold in 3-D and it worked. Then from MGS2 onwards he started going really into left field. I honestly can't stand the series from MGS 3 onward. It just gets too fucking weird, with basically "Freak of the Weak" bosses and shit. I think it worked for the 1960s era prequel that is MGS III: Snake Eater... but the convolution of #2, and from what I have played (the rest watched) of MGS 4 just I dunno.
Then the dude pimps out the IP with putting something like "Peace Walker" on a fucking mobile system with inferior graphics, instead of having that be some landmark PS3 outing, and the stuff going on in that game kind of hints at a technology that doesn't jive with the origins of Outer Heaven (including physical locations) for what we know to be Metal Gear #1. The man is too damn inconsistent in his approach, and has Snake doing super hero stuff when he's an ordinary guy. Allowing Kitamura to have stuff like the missile jumping thing, (I didn't know that) just makes me want to scream. WHY Kojima... WHY!???
For me it's, MG II: Solid Snake > MGS 3 > MGS and nothing else exists anyhow. I prefer to have the ambiguous "Just Live Snake" of Naomi's voice over as he and Meryl drive off on the snow mobile into an uncertain future as the finale of the IP personally. And the whole Raiden thing... no fucking way. It's just too stupid now.
I want the Game Boy Color Metal Gear remade for 3DS.
The reasoning for changing many of the voice actor's accent is irrelevant to me. They generally sounded worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ancient Flounder
I realize Kojima wanted something over the top, but it's the same reason the "special editions" of Star Wars are inferior to the original. In both cases, the director of the respective media was able to embellish and add extra detail they were previously unable to do. In both cases, I feel they went way overboard. A little extra polish here and there wouldn't have been bad, but what they did only muddied up the cinematics.
As Shag said, though the actors were technically the same, the performances just weren't nearly as good as the original. I hope they leave the original VO in tact. It's the most cost effective move and sounds the best IMO.
Preach on brotha. I could never fully get into Peacewalker. For the limitations placed on the game, it probably did the best it could. That being said, the mixture of Ashley Wood's ass-tastic art in place of cutscenes (awful) and no dual analog (camera control anyone) made it unplayable for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Shagohod
Did you play Peace Walker?Quote:
Originally Posted by Average Joe
I want a PS3 MGS title in the same format as it and Portable Ops.
EDIT: Peace Walker Haters!??!?! I don't understand you. The game was f-a-n-t-a-s-t-i-c.
Don't get me wrong, everything about the game was amazing, but after playing MGS3 Subsistence, that right analog stick to control my camera spoiled me. Having it relegated to the d-pad or face buttons made it very unintuitive. I'd literally be forced to stop in place, look around, move, stop in place, look around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lagduf
Like I said, with the given limitations of a PSP, I don't think they could have made a better Metal Gear game. It just wasn't good enough for me. :(
I never played Subsistence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jedah Doma
I thought the game worked well with the control scheme, they took in to account you couldn't move around as easily and fluidly just using the face buttons. I was cool with that.
I wish the game was on PSN w/ dual analog support.
You and me both.:crying:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lagduf
I had a glimmering hope you could have used the PSP Go's ability to link up with a PS3 controller to allow dual analog control. Sadly no.
More on topic...If they rerelease MGS in HD on PS3 I probably won't buy it. Just not interested.
Affine texture mapping, nearest-neighbor filtering, and integer transforms look glorious at any resolution.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesagwa
Yeah, the four pixels that make up Snakes face are going to look incredible run through some texture filters and scaled up.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpamYouToDeath
Also, the free camera is the worst thing to be introduced into an MGS game. Which is why the PSP versions sucked.
My thoughts exactly ...they will HAVE to redo the graphics if they are hoping to have any success at all with this re-releaseQuote:
Originally Posted by Nesagwa
I dunno if you're serious...but I am. This would be awesome!Quote:
Originally Posted by lithy
I agree that they should have left the original alone, but I still was impressed with the scene where Gray Fox is flying in the air and deflecting bullets from Metal Gear with his Katana. It still was pretty kick-ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Shagohod
I'm super cereal you guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigTinz
I hope they don't increase the frame rate to 60 fps. I kinda loved MGS1 / MGS3 at 30 fps, but having them run at that rate steadily with no slowdowns would be nice.
Edit:
+1 for the bird view.
Also, I thought the Twin Snakes was a mixed bag in various ways. The alterations in the cut scenes and voice acting were either terrible or cool. I loved the bloody Gray Fox pre-fight scene, but most of the other altered scenes were just ass. Same could be said about the voice acting. Psycho Mantis had a better voice in Twin Snakes, but Naomi on the other hand ......
But I think the bad changes out number the good ones, so if I had to go with either versions, it's definitely the PS1 one.
This was pretty much inevitable. I half expect Gran Turismo 3 and 4 to have HD remakes as well.
Still looking forward to ICO/SotC way more, though.
i'll be giving the PSP MGS games a shot once i finish up with Dissidia (that may take a while)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lagduf
Upon thinking about it, it'll be the PSX version anyways, if this set gets released. I know Twin Snakes was developed as an exclusive to the GameCube and Silicon Knights was developing only for the GC at that time. I believe Nintendo had a stake in the development of the game, as well, but I may be wrong about that.
Also, yes; fuck the Peace Walker haters. Sure, the story was dumb, but the rest of the game more than made up for it.
I liked the story - it was no more "dumb" than the other stories in the games (i'm looking at you MGS2) :vik:
Played Portable Ops all the way through. Thought it was pretty great.
The MGO portion was fun as hell.
I'd love for a HD MGS1. It would finally remove the last reason for owning a gamecube
I am pretty sure MGS is going to be at least somewhat redone graphically from the PS1. My guess is something like what was done to Perfect Dark on XBLA. Which was just right.
Honestly, the MGS2 game engine on Twin Snakes mooooore than made up for the voice acting changes. The changes in actors voices didn't bother me too much. Mei Ling's voice originally seemed a little forced considering she is American really. Naomi's voice was better originally, it went well with her since she lived in Africa. They took out both of their accents in MGS4 as well.
I was just happy to have a FP view when aiming weapons on Twin Snakes and lets face it, 100% 3D games on the PS1 aged a little on the rough side. Look at Silent Hill 1 as well, which looked kinda rough when it was out even. Some exceptions I can think of are Brave Fencer Musashi, Tobal 2, Vagrant Story, FF Tactics and Xenogears. Interesting how those are all Squaresoft games. I really didn't mean that list to be that, weird huh.
Still, for MGS 1's time, it looked great with how they did the polygons and looked OK for a while, but years and years later... hmmm. Graphics aren't everything, I know. Though, it was nice to even get a remake like we did.
Any who, my favorites as of now in order roughly are:
MG2 Solid Snake > MGS3 > MGS1 > MGS4 > MGS2 > MG1
I'd honestly trade an HD port of MGS1 for cheap quick remakes of MG1, 2 and Ghost Babel in 3D.
After years of being obsessed with this series, I thought I was finally over it. I mean I am looking forward to MGS: Rising quite a bit but not on the same level as I did the previous games.
But right now I have a seperate tab with Youtube open playing some MGS music. And now I'm thinking about how long its been since I played through the MGS games, I haven't touched any of them since I played MGS4 several times right after its release. I can feel the obsession starting to build up again...
C'mon man. I've been waiting for a remake of Metal Gear for years now. When they do it, they need to do them justice - as much love as they gave the Solid series, at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesagwa
I kind of wish they would end the series after MGS4 though. It tied up all the loose ends and finished the story in a satisfactory way.
"The Best Is Yet to Come" is one of the saddest songs I've ever heard.
**MGS4 SPOILERS**
Remember in MGS4 when Snake goes back to Shadow Moses Island? And as he's approaching the helipad, "The Best is Yet to Come" starts playing? That was one of the best scenes in any game, ever. The place has aged as poorly as Snake himself.
A little off topic. But does anyone play mgo from mgs4?
#1.) Remake of MG1 and MG 2 with current gen graphics and technology. Those levels, enemies, bosses and story would be awesome interpreted in an MGS style presentation. Hearing Hayter as Snake in this setting would be sublime, and we'd actually get to, I don't know, play Solid Snake in a Metal Gear Solid game. Not old Snake, not Raiden, not Naked Snake. I have nothing against ANY of these characters (the hate on Raiden is unwarranted, IMO,) but I'd appreciate an opportunity to play that character, in his prime, in the stories that made his legend.
#2.) Remake Ghost Babel with current gen graphics and technology. It is an amazing GB Color game, maybe the best game released on that platform.
#3.) HD remake of MGS1. Either version is fine. I enjoyed the original and I enjoyed Twin Snakes. Both were good games. The only REAL problem with Twin Snakes is that the enemy AI is a bit too unbalanced for the more restrictive zones of MGS 1. The areas aren't as wide open. But I really liked playing MGS 1 with all those MGS 2 gameplay elements, overall. I even liked the cutscenes. But I also understand why some people don't like them.
For my part, the Twin Snakes cinemas with Solid Snake acting like a superhero go against the vulnerability and everyman quality of the character. On the other hand, it makes it more believable that he could go toe to toe with some of those ridiculous boss characters.
I also prefer the voice acting in Twin Snakes a fuckton over the original. It's WAY better overall, IMO.
i liked all of the MG series except for those on the psp. mgs1 and 4 are at the top. I still play them both a lot. I have been playing mgs1 on the dreamcast just for kicks and it looks pretty good . As far as HD remake im all in for that as long as its disck based.
Anyone play the pc version as far as i remember it was far better then the ps version.
MG> MGS>MG2>SR>everything else
Its best years happened before 2000... then it sort of fell on its face, mainly when it went from "fun, innovative game" to "shitty movie delivery system".
Snakes Revenge is better than MGS3. Srsly.
That should be the new "subtitle" Metal Gear Solid 6312867: Shitty Movie Delivery System Action
Maybe my jokes need to be a little less subtle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesagwa
Baggin' on MGS3? Shame. You are now no longer invited to my MGS camo rave.Quote:
Originally Posted by VanillaThunder
Lol, I wouldn't show... SRSLY EATING SNAKES IN A GAME IS INNOVATIVE!!! GET IT, HE'S EATING HIS CODENAME!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jedah Doma
Translation, irony = bad game. Brilliant.Quote:
Originally Posted by VanillaThunder