Man, racism is disgusting, but I don't know what to make of these armbands
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Man, racism is disgusting, but I don't know what to make of these armbands
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I think that being surprised by nationalism in Japan shows more about the ignorance of the person making the comment than anything about the society itself. http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/icons/icon35.gif
wtfQuote:
Originally Posted by Zero Satori
Lay off the Anime and pocky, seriously bro.
I thought this would be a thread about keyboards.
http://www.vintagesynth.com/kawai/k4.jpg
I never thought I'd get a chance to say this... Stay out of it, Harriet Tubman.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harriet Tubman
You just took stupid apologist behavior to a new level of dumbness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zero Satori
So, because there is an established history of racism among a segment of Japan's population, that racism stops being ignorant?
You are a jackass.
Oh, go fight a war about it, Robert.
In Biological Anthropology class the teacher said Japanese are actually Koreans.
Indigenous Japanese look like this:
http://www.journeyonline.com.au/images/article/1440.jpg
http://media.npr.org/news/images/200...g?t=1248646920
Quick search article
Another article
I saw that in that NY Times article last night (I tend to read it around midnight when they publish the next day's edition). It was fascinating. What did you think of the article? I almost posted it here.Quote:
Originally Posted by vgg
It's basically Japan's Tea Party.
For others who might be curious:
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New Dissent in Japan Is Loudly Anti-Foreign
By MARTIN FACKLER
KYOTO, Japan — The demonstrators appeared one day in December, just as children at an elementary school for ethnic Koreans were cleaning up for lunch. The group of about a dozen Japanese men gathered in front of the school gate, using bullhorns to call the students cockroaches and Korean spies.
Inside, the panicked students and teachers huddled in their classrooms, singing loudly to drown out the insults, as parents and eventually police officers blocked the protesters’ entry.
The December episode was the first in a series of demonstrations at the Kyoto No. 1 Korean Elementary School that shocked conflict-averse Japan, where even political protesters on the radical fringes are expected to avoid embroiling regular citizens, much less children. Responding to public outrage, the police arrested four of the protesters this month on charges of damaging the school’s reputation.
More significantly, the protests also signaled the emergence here of a new type of ultranationalist group. The groups are openly anti-foreign in their message, and unafraid to win attention by holding unruly street demonstrations.
Since first appearing last year, their protests have been directed at not only Japan’s half million ethnic Koreans, but also Chinese and other Asian workers, Christian churchgoers and even Westerners in Halloween costumes. In the latter case, a few dozen angrily shouting demonstrators followed around revelers waving placards that said, “This is not a white country.”
Local news media have dubbed these groups the Net far right, because they are loosely organized via the Internet, and gather together only for demonstrations. At other times, they are a virtual community that maintains its own Web sites to announce the times and places of protests, swap information and post video recordings of their demonstrations.
While these groups remain a small if noisy fringe element here, they have won growing attention as an alarming side effect of Japan’s long economic and political decline. Most of their members appear to be young men, many of whom hold the low-paying part-time or contract jobs that have proliferated in Japan in recent years.
Though some here compare these groups to neo-Nazis, sociologists say that they are different because they lack an aggressive ideology of racial supremacy, and have so far been careful to draw the line at violence. There have been no reports of injuries, or violence beyond pushing and shouting. Rather, the Net right’s main purpose seems to be venting frustration, both about Japan’s diminished stature and in their own personal economic difficulties.
“These are men who feel disenfranchised in their own society,” said Kensuke Suzuki, a sociology professor at Kwansei Gakuin University. “They are looking for someone to blame, and foreigners are the most obvious target.”
They are also different from Japan’s existing ultranationalist groups, which are a common sight even today in Tokyo, wearing paramilitary uniforms and riding around in ominous black trucks with loudspeakers that blare martial music.
This traditional far right, which has roots going back to at least the 1930s rise of militarism in Japan, is now a tacitly accepted part of the conservative political establishment here. Sociologists describe them as serving as a sort of unofficial mechanism for enforcing conformity in postwar Japan, singling out Japanese who were seen as straying too far to the left, or other groups that anger them, such as embassies of countries with whom Japan has territorial disputes.
Members of these old-line rightist groups have been quick to distance themselves from the Net right, which they dismiss as amateurish rabble-rousers.
“These new groups are not patriots but attention-seekers,” said Kunio Suzuki, a senior adviser of the Issuikai, a well-known far-right group with 100 members and a fleet of sound trucks.
But in a sign of changing times here, Mr. Suzuki also admitted that the Net right has grown at a time when traditional ultranationalist groups like his own have been shrinking. Mr. Suzuki said the number of old-style rightists has fallen to about 12,000, one-tenth the size of their 1960s’ peak.
No such estimates exist for the size of the new Net right. However, the largest group appears to be the cumbersomely named Citizens Group That Will Not Forgive Special Privileges for Koreans in Japan, known here by its Japanese abbreviation, the Zaitokukai, which has some 9,000 members.
The Zaitokukai gained notoriety last year when it staged noisy protests at the home and junior high school of a 14-year-old Philippine girl, demanding her deportation after her parents were sent home for overstaying their visas. More recently, the Zaitokukai picketed theaters showing “The Cove,” an American documentary about dolphin hunting here that rightists branded as anti-Japanese.
In interviews, members of the Zaitokukai and other groups blamed foreigners, particularly Koreans and Chinese, for Japan’s growing crime and unemployment, and also for what they called their nation’s lack of respect on the world stage. Many seemed to embrace conspiracy theories taken from the Internet that China or the United States were plotting to undermine Japan.
“Japan has a shrinking pie,” said Masaru Ota, 37, a medical equipment salesman who headed the local chapter of the Zaitokukai in Omiya, a Tokyo suburb. “Should we be sharing it with foreigners at a time when Japanese are suffering?”
While the Zaitokukai has grown rapidly since it was started three and a half years ago with just 25 members, it is still largely run by its founder and president, a 38-year-old tax accountant who goes by the assumed name of Makoto Sakurai. Mr. Sakurai leads the group from his tiny office in Tokyo’s Akihabara electronics district, where he taps out announcements and other postings on his personal computer.
Mr. Sakurai says the group is not racist, and rejected the comparison with neo-Nazis. Instead, he said he had modeled his group after another overseas political movement, the Tea Party in the United States. He said he had studied videos of Tea Party protests, and shared with the Tea Party an angry sense that his nation had gone in the wrong direction because it had fallen into the hands of leftist politicians, liberal media as well as foreigners.
“They have made Japan powerless to stand up to China and Korea,” said Mr. Sakurai, who refused to give his real name.
Mr. Sakurai admitted that the group’s tactics had shocked many Japanese, but said they needed to win attention. He also defended the protests at the Korean school in Kyoto as justified to oppose the school’s use of a nearby public park, which he said rightfully belonged to Japanese children.
Teachers and parents at the school called that a flimsy excuse to vent what amounted to racist rage. They said the protests had left them and their children fearful.
“If Japan doesn’t do something to stop this hate language,” said Park Chung-ha, 43, who heads the school’s mothers association, “where will it lead to next?”
I remember reading another article where someone in the japanese royal family said that there is Korean blood in their ancestry. The press tried to downplay his comments.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xavier
I think its sick, I mean children should be sheltered from any of the shit in this world until they build up a tolerance and ....choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by ATL
Racism in any form is disgusting, a person doesn't have a choice in where they are from. I get some weird looks from some people here every summer, but my students being a fresh generation are open minded.
The reason I posted this was I find it fascinating that everything I see or hear from Japan seems so organised, so planned up to the PR and even logos and insignias for a bigot march...its all bad, but beats bloody mobs
I thought this thread was about Hawaii and it was a typo, wtf is kawaii?
Found the article!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007....justinmccurry
Kinda reminds me of the shit that goes on down here where I live. Lots of black and white families are relate and I do mean LOTS because of the race mixing that happened in the 17 and 1800's. Some of the most racist mofos around here have a black ancestor and they try to hide it or just stay in denial.Quote:
Although the wartime emperor, Hirohito, renounced his divine status after Japan's defeat in 1945, ultra-nationalists regard his son, the current emperor, Akihito, as a living god, and have issued death threats to archaeologists involved in previous attempts to gain access to the tombs.
Their greatest fear is that proper inspections of the tombs will reveal compelling evidence that the Japanese imperial family originated from China and the Korean peninsula.
Akihito alluded to his Korean ancestry on his 68th birthday in 2001. In remarks that were ignored or played down by most of the domestic media, he said: "I for my part, feel a certain kinship with Korea, given the fact that it is recorded in the Chronicles of Japan that the mother of Emperor Kammu was of the line of King Muryong of Paekche."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA06Z5e1ZFcQuote:
Originally Posted by Zero Satori
It means "cute" in Japanese.Quote:
Originally Posted by SamuraiShodownSensei
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Originally Posted by Harriet Tubman
Japan has nothing on you.
So basically it's some weaboo lingo?Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert E. Lee
more or lessQuote:
Originally Posted by SamuraiShodownSensei
I thought you wrote Weapon...etf is a weaboo?Quote:
Originally Posted by SamuraiShodownSensei
That does not look like Japanese Kanji.Quote:
Originally Posted by vgg
Basically someone's that's Wapanese. Encyclopedia Dramatica to the rescue. NSFW and take what's there with a grain of salt.Quote:
Originally Posted by vgg
Yeah, it does.Quote:
Originally Posted by X
Looks like African kanji to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert E. Lee
That's awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Clinton
http://www.gifninja.com/Workspace/a8...b81/output.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Bill Clinton
Heh. Get a load of this bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zero Satori
Oh nao! ignolant amelican man commenting on japonraise nationarishimu!
(hu hu huuuuuu)
<(u.u; )>
You're probably just trying to crack a joke, but there's a barrier of weeaboo faggotry that is barring us from the punchline.
After ALL the shit they've done to Koreans throughout history...any Japanese national who can find it in themselves to hate THEM in spite of all that can just stumble their way through a forest of cocks and fuck themselves along the way.
Even some of their government officials like to "pray at the Yasukuni Jinja" every now and then to rile up the Koreans and Chinese in the process. As long as Nationalism remains a controversial topic in Japanese politics, politicians will flock to those activities.
This is just sickening. I just LOVE how they say that they're not racist when clearly their intentions say otherwise.
it's knee jerk. Japanese people have been kidnapped to North Korea where they get brainwashed and fucked up.
Besides that, all of Asia is a mess right now. China has issued warnings to people not to travel to the Philippines. Not sure what's next on the menu.
Hence: The Japanese Tea Party :emb:Quote:
Originally Posted by bemanicho1
Yeah, no kidding.Quote:
Originally Posted by ATL
Painting a picture with words.Quote:
Originally Posted by Кашика
I went to Manila yesterday. That place is fucking scary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Clinton
I hear Russian Skinheads are even worse.
Let the two battle it out.
It will be like 1904 all over again.
People have to stop looking at social issues through historical mindsets.
Japan hasn't done shit to anyone in a long time. But half the Koreans are committing international terrorism in the vein of human trafficking (of Japanese people) and espionage, while the other half sits idly at their computers playing mmorpgs. So yeah, right now Japanese people have a legitimate gripe. Maybe this isn't the best way to get their point across, but it's better than doing nothing and allowing this shit to escalate. Through negative measures, they have put at least a little pressure on all involved governments to fix a problem. Now what's necessary is for a bombing in South Korea to wipe out over a hundred innocent people and the world can finally ram a huge laxative suppository up North Korea's ass to clear out all the shit.
People who want to complain that Japan can't say anything because of what some people did generations ago should really get their heads checked. That argument is right up there with giving black people reparations for slavery.
So north koreans are smuggling japanese into the country?
Tell me a little more about this.
To be fair, this is messed up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Clinton
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...pNQFWZFT13sCNA
I can't blame China.
China just became the world's 2nd largest economy and South Korea is continuing to grow into a top tier electronics/software producer.
Japan's pride of being the top Asian nation is taking a painful blow, so they'll react with strong nationalism.
ProTip for easy leadership : When your country is going through hard times, find a group of people and blame it all on them. Here in the US everything is the Mexican's fault.
Those pictures posted are of Ainu. They're an old Japanese minority that's been phased out/absorbed into the population.
I say so what. When you go a third world country like the Philippines where people are wacky to begin with (I often wonder if racecar is Filipino) how can you expect competent law enforcement or rational consideration from the population after a traumatic event. It's a country of kids and they even have a bar shaped like a mushroom house where the servers are all dwarven. What do people expect? So yeah, I think the Chinese are being stupid in their reaction. They should also issue warnings to the citizens not to stick vacuum hoses on their anuses.Quote:
Originally Posted by ATL
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan%E...orea_relationsQuote:
Originally Posted by Кашика
I learned something new today.Quote:
Originally Posted by andsuchisdeath
What if Asians originally crossed the Straight from North America and that while the Ainu are similar to the Koreans, they didn't make the journey to Korea. They stopped part way because they had their home.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xavier
and people wonder why every asian culture not the japanese,
totally loathes and despises the japanese.
I was thinking the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by rarehero
Most of them look down on Koreans from what I have seen. Historically Korea has been a prostitution state, with the Chinese and Mongols whoring out their women like it was their jobs, throughout their entire history.Quote:
Originally Posted by rarehero
And then everyone thinks the Chinese are dirty.
Ignorance, actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by rarehero
The Chinese are a great example: want them to believe something stupid? Just have the Communist Part push it. That's power.
looking at how the japanese treated any nationQuote:
Originally Posted by Bill Clinton
during it's days of imperialism,
it's pretty hard not to say that they have basically
raped, enslaved, and stolen from any and all their surrounding neighbors.
I've never studied how the chinese may have used the people of korea
pre-ww1 but the japanese culture is despicable and has never been apologetic
even about its war crimes during this past century.
one only needs to look into the japanese occupation of korea and the rape of nanking as
shocking examples that rival nazi germany.
karmas a bitch.
and when their people figure out that they have an aging
generation gap between any real population
because their young males are too busy humping pillow sheets with anime prints on them,
dreaming about tentacle porn
and with the only people interested in japanese women
are japanophiles in the places not japan,
then we'll see how pure and strong their culture is.
good riddance.
Ainu are aboriginal Japanese and Russian. From wikipedia, believe it or not...and this is not far off from what was taught @ Temple University Japan when i attended.Quote:
Originally Posted by andsuchisdeath
The Ainu (アイヌ?, Aynu アィヌ) IPA: [ʔáinu] (also called Ezo in historical texts) are the indigenous people or groups in Japan and Russia. Historically they spoke the Ainu language and related varieties and lived in Hokkaidō, the Kuril Islands, and much of Sakhalin. Most of those who identify themselves as Ainu still live in this same region, though the exact number of living Ainu is unknown. This is due to ethnic issues in Japan resulting in those with Ainu backgrounds hiding their identities and confusion over mixed heritages. In Japan, because of intermarriage over many years with Japanese, the concept of a 'pure Ainu' ethnic group is no longer feasible.[3] Official estimates of the population are of around 25,000, while the unofficial number is upwards of 200,000 people.
@ Thread OP: there is *nothing* cute about racism, racialism, or that offensive fucking armband.
IMHO.
Funny thing is here you are being an ignorant bigot against the Japanese, which is really unlike you to play that card on the forums (but I feel kinship with you now, so kudos). But in turn, all those asian nations are racist against each other except the Philippines, where the people are so fucking nice (except the muslims there, who are savages in need of sterilization and a good gas shower).Quote:
Originally Posted by rarehero