Live in San Fransisco? Watch out for the food police!

Wtf..this is happening in America? If they can take away soda,what else can they take? When will this bullshit stop?

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Soda fans in San Francisco may be disappointed to find their favorite Pepsi and Coke products replaced with healthier 100 percent juice and soy milk in vending machines on city property.

San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom issued an executive order in April banning the sugary beverages, as well as sports drinks and artificially sweetened water, but the ban has only recently begun to take effect. Instead of soda, vending machines can only carry water, diet soda, 100 percent fruit juice and soy or rice milk. Under the new regulations, diet soda can also comprise only 25 percent of the beverages offered and juice choices cannot contain any added sweeteners.

While the executive order applies to any new vending machines, vending machines already under contract will be exempt.

"There's a direct link between what people eat and drink and the obesity and health care crises in this country," Newsom spokesman Tony Winnicker said to the San Francisco Chronicle. "It's entirely appropriate and not at all intrusive for city government to take steps to discourage the sale of sugary sodas on city property."

The ban is part of the administration’s attempt to improve the health of San Franciscans. Other methods reducing the city’s obesity rate include the Shape Up San Francisco exercise program and nine planned Sunday Streets events, in which various roads around the city will be closed to promote outdoor activities.

"This is not about the soda police or a crackdown on soda," Winnicker said to the Chronicle. "People absolutely remain free to choose to drink unhealthy sugary sodas anywhere they want."

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Link to article: http://eatdrinkandbe.org/article/ind...sanfransodaban

Awesome news and I support this fully...

No one is taking anyone's Soda away and I really don't think it's some oppressive move on the part of the city... its forward thinking and progress, something the SF Bay Area has always tried to do.

Its really ridiculous actually how so many stores have candy stands and drink coolers in their check- out aisles and how every gas station is like a junk food oasis.

I went to Micheal's arts and crafts last week to get some drawing supplies and was surprised and a little disgusted to see well stocked candy and drink coolers on all the check out aisle heads.

Go to foreign countries where they do not have problems with obesity like we do and you dont see the level of accessibility that people are used to here.

I live over in Oakland and will be interested to see if we follow suit on this one...

I was expecting something much worse. If the city wants to do that, I say go for it.

Now if only they could make caffinated soy milk, we could all win.

they could do what my office does.
my office has a fridge where they sell
snacks and cokes for cheaper than the vending machines.

on the flip side,
most of the people in my office are on the heavier side.

guess I need to tell them about the coffee and cigarettes diet.

DR. PEPPER WITH REAL SUGAR IN IT

now that's gay.

But Coke is it! Pepsi is the choice of the new generation! Brawndo has what plants need!

Since it involves city property, who cares...

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Originally Posted by Dick Jones

Since it involves city property, who cares...

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Yeah, this. Sodas have already been removed from vending machines in a lot of schools and other places. Who cares? Nobody is stopping you from buying one somewhere else if you absolutely have to have one.

Simple, vote them out of office.

But I already know that I couldn't live in SF anyways. So I'm quite sure the nutbags there will appreciate this move.

Hell I couldn't live anyplace in CA. Hopefully it falls into the ocean someday.

So far I've yet to find someone around the city that even cares or has noticed this

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Originally Posted by brentsg

Simple, vote them out of office.

But I already know that I couldn't live in SF anyways. So I'm quite sure the nutbags there will appreciate this move.

Hell I couldn't live anyplace in CA. Hopefully it falls into the ocean someday.

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why couldnt you live in SF and what makes the general population of a city nutbags anyways?

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Originally Posted by brentsg

Simple, vote them out of office.

But I already know that I couldn't live in SF anyways. So I'm quite sure the nutbags there will appreciate this move.

Hell I couldn't live anyplace in CA. Hopefully it falls into the ocean someday.

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Please pray to Crom that when CA begins to sink that I'll have enough time to grab my guns and flee the state. I promise to drive straight back to MO.

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Originally Posted by Tango

why couldnt you live in SF and what makes the general population of a city nutbags anyways?

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He knows they wouldn't have him and he's just trying to turn it around so he can feel better about himself.

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Originally Posted by SouthtownKid

He knows they wouldn't have him and he's just trying to turn it around so he can feel better about himself.

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Yeah that's it. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Lagduf

Please pray to Crom that when CA begins to sink that I'll have enough time to grab my guns and flee the state. I promise to drive straight back to MO.

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You'll have time. They will have taken all your guns by then, as I don't expect it to sink anytime soon. God wants George Lucas to finish tweaking Star Wars for Blu-ray.

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Originally Posted by brentsg

Yeah that's it. :rolleyes:

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If not that then what?

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Originally Posted by brentsg

Yeah that's it.

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Yeah, I was pretty sure.

if the public is too dumb. gotta do something.

i have no intention of paying for their insulin.

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Originally Posted by brentsg

You'll have time. They will have taken all your guns by then, as I don't expect it to sink anytime soon. God wants George Lucas to finish tweaking Star Wars for Blu-ray.

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they are taking away your freedom to get overcharged for soda? oh the horror!

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Originally Posted by dullbuoy

they are taking away your freedom to get overcharged for soda? oh the horror!

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Freedom of choice. If someone,for example smokes,it's their choice to do so.Just like playing older games when there are newer ones out. If you take away their (people's) freedom in the land of the free then, what the hell do you have left?

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Originally Posted by Tango

Awesome news and I support this fully...

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I support it mostly.

I'd more often recommend people drink soda with natural sugar rather than "diet sodas" though. They allow artificial sweeteners in soda but not artificially sweetened water? Interesting.

@Mrandersonjr: Well, all those smokers and food junkies have taken away MY freedom of choice. I'd like to choose not to pay for their medical bills, etc, but that is not a privilege this country will let me keep. As NeoSneth said before you posted. . . you should have got that message sooner. You need a good lesson about "freedom" of choice.

What freedom's exactly is the city of SF denying it's people? Do you seriously believe limiting the number of vending machines selling soda is somehow infringing upon peoples rights or are you trying to be sarcastic?

To piggyback on your point, if someone does not smoke they have a right to tell others they cant smoke in their house... no one said they cant smoke period, just that they have to walk their ass outside to do it.

Awesome, how about banning fast food within the city? (McDonalds, BK, Wendys, KFC, etc)

I wish this would happen in Mississippi.

I don't buy anything from vending machines so I wouldn't know. People needs to keep a Nalgene bottle full of water on hand at all times.

Outside of water, the only beverages I've had in the last three months have been: 3 coffees, a dozen hot green teas, one Pepsi can. I don't even miss them, water's the perfect drink.

Water is the perfect drink when heated and combined with coffee grounds.

Just get those yogurt drinks, which is somehow marketed as a "healthy choice" even though the sugar content is much higher than Coke or Pepsi.

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Originally Posted by Tango

What freedom's exactly is the city of SF denying it's people? Do you seriously believe limiting the number of vending machines selling soda is somehow infringing upon peoples rights or are you trying to be sarcastic?

To piggyback on your point, if someone does not smoke they have a right to tell others they cant smoke in their house... no one said they cant smoke period, just that they have to walk their ass outside to do it.

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They are denying their citizens the freedom of choice. An American citizen is granted life,liberty and the pursuit of happiness. What if smoking inside the house that they bought working hard pursues their happiness? This is mostly a principal issue here,it is stating that if the city of SF can ban soda,where will it stop? The article that I posted in this topic is a fine example of liberals going out of control. See, part of being an American and having freedom is the prospect of failure, sure,you drink too much soda,you might get fat or get diabetes,but, maybe that one can of soda or one cig that pete the mechanic drinks or smokes once a day gives him the drive and motivation he needs to fix more cars. This bullshit is unamerican. If you take away freedom, you take away ambition....and this all boils down to...You can't legislate human behavior.

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Originally Posted by ForeverSublime

@Mrandersonjr: Well, all those smokers and food junkies have taken away MY freedom of choice. I'd like to choose not to pay for their medical bills, etc, but that is not a privilege this country will let me keep. As NeoSneth said before you posted. . . you should have got that message sooner. You need a good lesson about "freedom" of choice.

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This is America, love it or leave it. If you can't stand paying for citizens freedom of choice,gtfo.

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Originally Posted by Mrandersonjr

They are denying their citizens the freedom of choice. An American citizen is granted life,liberty and the pursuit of happiness. What if smoking inside the house that they bought working hard pursues their happiness? This is mostly a principal issue here,it is stating that if the city of SF can ban soda,where will it stop? The article that I posted in this topic is a fine example of liberals going out of control. See, part of being an American and having freedom is the prospect of failure, sure,you drink too much soda,you might get fat or get diabetes,but, maybe that one can of soda or one cig that pete the mechanic drinks or smokes once a day gives him the drive and motivation he needs to fix more cars. This bullshit is unamerican. If you take away freedom, you take away ambition.

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You have to be the dumbest person I've seen post today. And that is saying something. No one is stopping anyone from drinking soda in San Francisco, you stupid, stupid motherfucker. No one is denying anyone in San Francisco the "freedom to choose" soda. YOU CAN STILL DRINK IT ANYWHERE YOU WANT.

And fucking put a space after commas, you ignorant baboon. What, did you drop out of school at age 5?

someone needs to take away Mrandersonjr's freedom to use the internet.

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Originally Posted by SouthtownKid

You have to be the dumbest person I've seen post today. And that is saying something. No one is stopping anyone from drinking soda in San Francisco, you stupid, stupid motherfucker. No one is denying anyone in San Francisco the "freedom to choose" soda. YOU CAN STILL DRINK IT ANYWHERE YOU WANT.

And fucking put a space after commas, you ignorant baboon. What, did you drop out of school at age 5?

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Anywhere you say, OH WAIT! They banned the sales of soda in San Fransisco. So what the fuck, if I want a soda I have to get my ass over to some other town and get a soda. Pretty inconvenient huh? All I am saying is, look at the goddamn principal of the issue. This is America, not motherfucking pleasentville. Get back in your goddamn prius you tool.

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Originally Posted by dullbuoy

someone needs to take away Mrandersonjr's freedom to use the internet.

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Freedom of speech, sorry you don't like it fuckface.

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Originally Posted by Mrandersonjr

Anywhere you say, OH WAIT! They banned the sales of soda in San Fransisco.

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Learn to read, idiot.

THEY DID NOT.

Go read the first post again. Slowly. Sound out the words and get help from a grown-up if you need to. Holy shit. You can still buy soda in San Fransisco.


And fucking 'principal' is the guy who runs the school you dropped out of, moron.

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Originally Posted by SouthtownKid

Learn to read, idiot.

THEY DID NOT.

Go read the first post again. Slowly. Sound out the words and get help from a grown-up if you need to. Holy shit. You can still buy soda in San Fransisco.


And fucking 'principal' is the guy who runs the school you dropped out of, moron.

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IF the people are free to buy soda in San Fransisco....Then why do you make it so difficult for them to do so? The context of principal isn't the guy that banged your mom to get you enrolled in school. It's the main issue at hand. This soda ban can lead to a slippery slope, what if you tools ban candybars and that won't stop you,you can ban other undesirable things as well. Where does it fucking stop?

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Originally Posted by Mrandersonjr

The context of principal isn't the guy that banged your mom to get you enrolled in school. It's the main issue at hand.

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That's PRINCIPLE, you dummy.

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Originally Posted by Mrandersonjr

IF the people are free to buy soda in San Fransisco....Then why does the first fucking sentence of the article read otherwise?

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Yeah, that's right, you better edit that shit out of your post. You are finally starting to realize where you went wrong.

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"This is not about the soda police or a crackdown on soda," Winnicker said to the Chronicle. "People absolutely remain free to choose to drink unhealthy sugary sodas anywhere they want."

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Do you know what 'city property' means? Here's a hint: It doesn't mean the whole city, __________. I'm running out of ways to describe how stupid you are, so I'm leaving that one blank like Mad Libs to fill in later.

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Originally Posted by Mrandersonjr

IF the people are free to buy soda in San Fransisco....Then why do you make it so difficult for them to do so? The context of principal isn't the guy that banged your mom to get you enrolled in school. It's the main issue at hand. This soda ban can lead to a slippery slope, what if you tools ban candybars and that won't stop you,you can ban other undesirable things as well. Where does it fucking stop?

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Chill out, it's just vending machines.

Vending machines.

When's the last time you bought anything from one? It's been many a year for me already. I could care less.

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Originally Posted by SouthtownKid

That's PRINCIPLE, you dummy.



Yeah, that's right, you better edit that shit out of your post. You are finally starting to realize where you went wrong.



Do you know what 'city property' means? Here's a hint: It doesn't mean the whole city, __________. I'm running out of ways to describe how stupid you are, so I'm leaving that one blank like Mad Libs to fill in later.

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Here's your lesson of the week everybody! If someone disagrees with what you believe in, berate that other person every chance you get. So, you can stroke your ego.

SoutherntownKid: I hope you really look back, and try to remember what freedom was like before the liberals got into your head.

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Originally Posted by ki_atsushi

Chill out, it's just vending machines.

Vending machines.

When's the last time you bought anything from one? It's been many a year for me already. I could care less.

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And it's not even ALL vending machines. It's only vending machines on city property. Any private business with a soda vending machine can keep right on selling soda like normal.

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Originally Posted by SouthtownKid

And it's not even ALL vending machines. It's only vending machines on city property. Any private business with a soda vending machine can keep right on selling soda like normal.

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Good point, I was going to add that in but didn't have time to edit.

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Originally Posted by Mrandersonjr

Here's your lesson of the week everybody! If someone disagrees with what you believe in, berate that other person every chance you get. So, you can stroke your ego.

SoutherntownKid: I hope you really look back, and try to remember what freedom was like before the liberals got into your head.

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You have no right to discuss freedom when you can't even read, much less comprehend the subject. Fuck, you barely qualify as a citizen. The world scares you because you can't understand anything going on around you, so you blame everything on "the liberals". If you fucking took advantage of the public education that was offered to you for free, you wouldn't be in this mess now. What were you doing? School was fucking free all the way through the end of high school!

idiocy should be banned, especially on forums.

I'm totally not seeing the big deal here.

Fuck, I wish I had the willpower to make healthier lifestyle choices! I wish my company would stop carrying unhealthy food for me to buy on my breaks/lunches.

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Originally Posted by SouthtownKid

You have no right to discuss freedom when you can't even read, much less comprehend the subject. Fuck, you barely qualify as a citizen. The world scares you because you can't understand anything going on around you, so you blame everything on "the liberals". If you fucking took advantage of the public education that was offered to you for free, you wouldn't be in this mess now. What were you doing? School was fucking free all the way through the end of high school!

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Yet another personal attack:oh_no:. So,let me hear your definition of freedom.

EDIT:Not Webster's definition either, your own personal belief on what freedom is.

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Originally Posted by Mrandersonjr

Yet another personal attack:oh_no:. So,let me hear your definition of freedom.

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You didn't even understand the simple news article that you yourself quoted to kick off this thread. I don't know how many times you read it and you still managed not to get what it was actually saying.

When people tried to explain your own quoted article to you, you didn't understand that, either.

So I don't have high hopes you'd be able to understand anything else I'd try to tell you. But this is not a freedom issue. "Freedom" is just a word you brought into the discussion to complain about stuff that frightened you because you don't understand it. You can still buy soda in San Fransisco. You can still drink soda in San Fransisco.

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Originally Posted by SouthtownKid

You didn't even understand the simple news article that you yourself quoted to kick off this thread. I don't know how many times you read it and you still managed not to get what it was actually saying.

When people tried to explain your own quoted article to you, you didn't understand that, either.

So I don't have high hopes you'd be able to understand anything else I'd try to tell you. But this is not a freedom issue. "Freedom" is just a word you brought into the discussion to complain about stuff that frightened you because you don't understand it. You can still buy soda in San Fransisco. You can still drink soda in San Fransisco.

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But where can't you buy soda in San Fransisco? Vending Machines. What's the article about? A soda ban in Vending Machines in San Fransisco. I think you should put forward your definition anyways, I'll try to decipher it with my speak-n-spell.

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Originally Posted by Mrandersonjr

But where can't you buy soda in San Fransisco? Vending Machines. What's the article about? A soda ban in Vending Machines in San Fransisco.

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ON CITY PROPERTY. NOT ALL SAN FRANSISCO VENDING MACHINES. JUST THE ONES ON CITY PROPERTY. Fuck, I already said this. Why do I keep typing for you when you can't even read?

his has been explained to you multiple times, I just explained it to you again, and you probably still don't understand.

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Originally Posted by SouthtownKid

ON CITY PROPERTY. NOT ALL SAN FRANSISCO VENDING MACHINES. JUST THE ONES ON CITY PROPERTY. Fuck, I already said this. Why do I keep typing for you when you can't even read?

his has been explained to you multiple times, I just explained it to you again, and you probably still don't understand.

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There's those personal attacks again. Just give me your definition of freedom already,you keep dancing around this.

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Originally Posted by Mrandersonjr

There's those personal attacks again. Just give me your definition of freedom already,you keep dancing around this.

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You should worry less about the definition of freedom and more about the definition of city property. You keep dancing around that.

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Originally Posted by SouthtownKid

You should worry less about the definition of freedom and more about the definition of city property. You keep dancing around that.

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And yet we still keep going in circles.

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Originally Posted by Mrandersonjr

There's those personal attacks again.

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Freedom of speech, you dumb ass non-comprehending motherfucker:vik: